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Sony XEL-1 OLED HDTV  (Source: Sony)
Sony says OLED HDTVs could see America stores this year depending on Japanese demand

Many home theater enthusiasts have high hopes for OLED technology -- hopes that not only will OLED HDTV sets require less power but that they also will be significantly thinner and provide better color reproduction and image quality.

Engadget is reporting that Sony Electronics President Stan Glasgow revealed in talks this morning with journalists at the Sony Club in New York that, “OLED could come (to the U.S.) before the end of the year." The catch is that OLED HDTVs coming to America is dependent on the demand in Japan and panel supply. In other words if Sony’s OLED XEL-1 is a big hit in Japan, we won’t be seeing them this year in America.

Sony announced its 3mm thick XEL-1 OLED HDTV almost exactly one month ago to lustful stares from home theater fans around the world. The screen size was small at 11-inches and the price was high at about $1744 USD. The Sony XEL-1 OLED TV left many outside Japan reaching for their wallets only to be told the TV wasn’t available outside Japan.

There have been several other announcements in the OLED arena recently with Toshiba announcing that it would have 30-inch OLED HDTVs on the market by 2009. Toshiba, however, stated that the problem with OLED technology was that the method for producing the OLED panels was immature accounting for the increased cost and longer lead times before panels were available.

Just last week Samsung’s Executive Vice President and CTO, Ho Kyoon Chung, unveiled its roadmap for OLED products. Samsung expects to have 40 to 42-inch OLED panels on the market by 2010.

While Toshiba and Samsung make promises to get OLED HDTVs into the hands of consumers, Sony is actually doing it.


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RE: very cool
By fleshconsumed on 11/2/2007 8:58:13 AM , Rating: 1
At prices like this it won't be for a long time. Knowing that it's Sony, it won't be for a very very long time.

For now I'd be content with LED background LCDs. They should provide much better contrast ratio, they will be thinner, run cooler and run quieter. All that I want really.


RE: very cool
By Moishe on 11/2/2007 9:15:01 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. I think the LED backlit LCDs are really amazing. OLEDs supposedly have some real benefits too, but I've not seen one in person.

OLED will be too expensive for awhile and LCD and Plasmas are getting cheap and cheaper. They'll become the new bargain category. LED backlit is a step up and quite possibly OLED being another step up.


RE: very cool
By SunAngel on 11/2/2007 9:20:45 AM , Rating: 2
True, oh so true.

Have you had a chance to check out Philips Ambilight?

Those sucks give off a tremedous amount heat. Probably the only downfall of LED technology. Otherwise, great lcd tv.


RE: very cool
By ZoZo on 11/2/2007 2:07:22 PM , Rating: 3
Actually LED backlight LCDs are still crap compared to OLED, especially when watching a dark scene in a dark environment. You'll get to notice the difference in a few years.


RE: very cool
By afkrotch on 11/2/2007 5:30:38 PM , Rating: 2
Also LED backlight LCDs suck with response times.


RE: very cool
By BansheeX on 11/2/2007 12:42:31 PM , Rating: 4
Way to take the opportunity to bash Sony for no reason. Also funny that you bring up LED LCDs right after doing it, and then have no criticism for companies like Samsung making LED backlit LCDs that currently cost 3x more than CCFL models. New tech is expensive and marketed to enthusiasts first to recoup R&D costs. Don't go through life being ignorant and hateful. Without Sony pumping money into this tech, we truly would be waiting much longer for it.


RE: very cool
By barjebus on 11/2/07, Rating: -1
RE: very cool
By deeznuts on 11/2/2007 1:16:25 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Right, like putting R&D into building a game console that contains 8 separate cores, each with different functionality, requiring intimate knowledge of each core so as to develop functions unique to each one...riiiight, I wonder who thought that one up?


Umm, Sony, Toshiba and IBM. You think you are smarter than them, collectively? Notice the complaints regarding programming the PS3 are that it's hard. Boofuckinghoo. There are programmers who complain, and then there are those who just do it.

NG: Sigma was beautiful, and ran pretty dang fast. Any complaints? R&C looks awesome. Resistance:FOM was pretty dang good for a launch title. EPIC's Mark Reign won't stop gushing. Infinity Ward seems to be doing ok, saying COD4 looks essentially identical. Lair, while a horrible game, had good graphics. Naughty Dog seems to be doing pretty good with Uncharted. Should I go on?

You want simple go play Cooking Mama on your Wii. This is grown people stuff here. Developers that are hunkering down are getting it done, even multiplat devs. Whiners and lazy devs are the ones you hear about on the internet.


RE: very cool
By barjebus on 11/2/07, Rating: 0
RE: very cool
By Tuor on 11/2/07, Rating: 0
RE: very cool
By BansheeX on 11/3/2007 11:03:17 PM , Rating: 1
Most of the 360 praise comes from PC developers who, unsurprisingly, are partial to the 360 because it's easier to port a PC title to the 360. For developers like Naughty Dog or the R&C guys who are developing a game for the PS3 from the get go, the architecture differences are much less of an issue and they are oftentimes are very complimentary of what the PS3 is allowing them to do. So it's funny, you see these guys who learned DirectX, don't see the equal initial difficulty and proprietary-ness of it, looking at a different system and coming up with all kinds of complaints, and essentially their argument becomes "why does Sony get to dictate their own platform when I already learned Microsoft's?"


RE: very cool
By Treckin on 11/2/07, Rating: 0
RE: very cool
By fleshconsumed on 11/5/2007 9:12:05 AM , Rating: 2
Unlikely this post will ever get read but here's it anyway. No reason you say? Sony stuff is overpriced, and always has been, that's a fact. I got suckered and bought $110 CD player way back when comparable ones from philips were half the price.

Anyway, back to the real world. Newegg carries LED backlit 20" NEC display for about $1600-1700, or roughly the same price as Sony new OLED display. However, Sony display is only 11" big, in other words NEC backlit display has 4 times the area at the same price. That's why I said I'd rather settle for LED backlit displays as they should be smaller, cooler running, allow for better blacks by dynamically dimming leds where necessary, and more importantly much cheaper in the short run.


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