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Crysis demo released; gamers lament the weakness of their PC hardware

Gamers who recently spent a considerable sum of money on a high-end video card will finally find that their piece of hardware is no longer overkill. That’s right, the Crysis single-player demo is here as promised by the developers late last month.

The demo was originally set for release on September 25, but developer Crytek decided to push the public debut date back a month in the interest of quality. The retail date of November 16 still appears to be on-track.

“We are taking some extra time to make sure you that you have an amazing experience but also we did not want to risk the release date of Crysis at this stage,” Cevat Yerli, CEO of Crytek, explained regarding the delay. “To get the game into your hands by November the 16th, we had to make this call.”

The demo may be downloaded directly from an EA Canada web server. The 1.77GB download includes the entire first level and the CryEngine 2 - Sandbox 2 game editor, giving the community an opportunity to get familiar with the tools before the retail game ships.

As should be well known by now, Crysis is the most hardware-demanding game to ship this year. Those who are interested in diving into the demo should read the official system requirements and recommendations before downloading.



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Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By Noya on 10/28/2007 3:56:03 AM , Rating: 2
Can someone with the above hardware comment on gameplay? I want to know if it's worth upgrading now or waiting for the next high-end cards and Nehalem.




RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By shabby on 10/28/2007 12:06:53 PM , Rating: 2
Nehalem is a year away, new high end cards are probably 4-6 months away.
But maybe this will give you an idea how it'll run.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1211/crysis_demo...


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By walk2k on 10/28/2007 1:56:10 PM , Rating: 1
Actually Penryn quad core (Yorkfield) will be out by end of the year and the duos (Wolfdale) early next year. Also the NV 8800GT (512MB) will be out very soon, like next week I read, and will be a very nice DX10 card that outperforms the GTS for less money. Depends on what you have now but if you have a decent 1-2 yr old system they are definitly worth waiting for.

I don't think Crysis is going to be a game worth upgrading your PC for if you already have a modern-ish (less than 1.5 yrs old) system (ie dual core X2 or C2D and NV 7 series top of the line 7900 or NV8 series).

I mean Far Cry was a good game (annoying "knows where you are always" AI though), I played thru it once but that's about it, not like it has multiplayer to bring you back.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By walk2k on 10/28/2007 1:57:26 PM , Rating: 2
Now Unreal 3 maybe....


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/28/2007 3:16:28 PM , Rating: 2
Q6600 @ 3.06GHz and 8800GTX, gameplay is decent, averaging 60FPS all settings maxed 4Gigs RAM, Vista Ultimate 64.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By Smoza on 10/28/07, Rating: -1
RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By BitJunkie on 10/28/2007 6:38:18 PM , Rating: 2
Call BS if you want but you'll be wrong. I have a Q6600 (stock speed for now), 8800GTX Evga AC3 oc'd version, 4 GB RAM, and running on Vista x64 at 1920 x 1200. I didn't check the frame rate but it's smooth as you like and looks fantastic.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/28/2007 8:30:57 PM , Rating: 2
I'm at 1280x1024


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By BitJunkie on 10/28/2007 9:13:46 PM , Rating: 3
I'm not using AA, just played it again at the res you quote and it's noticably smoother, but personally I can handle it at 1920 x 1200....it's not a slide show and being an old git, I don't react that fast anyway :P


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By feraltoad on 10/29/2007 5:00:58 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
I didn't check the frame rate


I hope your not a Doctor. Or at least not mine.

Strange, heres a GTX only getting 37.7 avg FPS at 1600x1200 no AA/AF.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/geforce_880...

Too bad eVGA doesn't offer an AC3 oc'd Honda Fit, it would hold its own with a Murcielago with semi-comfortable seating for 4! ;)


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By BitJunkie on 10/29/2007 6:58:24 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't check the framerate because it plays just fine to my eye.

If you check the graph from that link you'll see they have 8x AA on and get 18 FPS. I added later that I'm not using AA - I think it's a waste of time at that high resolution. Specially when I can get smooth high quality performance with only a small change in IQ (to my eye).

You'll also notice that those benchmarks were peformed with 2 GB of RAM, when I posted before that my system is running with 4GB and using 2.25GB.

The point is that it isn't crawling, and If I set everything at Very High and reduce post processing effects to High it flies at 1920 x 1200.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By BitJunkie on 10/29/2007 7:04:55 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry, it's 8x AF and 4x AA, Regardless, you'll see that without AA or AF they are showing pretty much 30 FPS for 1900 x 1400 or whatever bizzare res. they used.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By feraltoad on 10/30/2007 3:40:16 AM , Rating: 1
That is a weird resolution; thought it was 1200. They also only got 38fps at 16x12 no AA or AF. At any rate, I think you have the right attitude that if it looks good and plays good then who cares what the frame rate is. To my eyes anything in the mid twenties looks fine to me as long as it is solid, I thought the 15 fps I was playing at seemed ok since it was steady, I think I have "slow" eyes or low expectations. I was just saying that you weren't getting 60 fps because from what everyone is reporting and from benchmarks I've seen that really isn't going to happen with everything on High at a big resolution with the current hardware available. Which isnt to say it isnt running great on your PC. Since we keep posting you should just check it with fraps, it has that nifty benchmark feature and post it. I think you will find it is not 60 fps average. If it is then I'll say you were correct and maybe I need to get another 2gb of ram! I'm not trying to be a dick, although I am obviously anal :), I just don't think it is very scientific or appropriate to make claims based assumptions and protest people's objections if you won't test it when it is really easy. Fraps is free too! Cheers


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By enlil242 on 10/28/2007 3:45:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Can someone with the above hardware comment on gameplay? I want to know if it's worth upgrading now or waiting for the next high-end cards and Nehalem.


With all do respect to the above poster... I have a q6600 at stock speed and a factory OC'd 8800GTX by MSI. I have not seen fluid FPS with all settings maxed out. I am very disappointed that I have to dumb down the settings so much that it diminishes the look of the graphics just to play it... That said, I do have a 24 inch monitor playing at 1920 x 1200. Perhaps running on a 19 inch at 1280 x 1024 I could get the performance I would appreciate...

I am also disappointed that games like this come out that brings high end systems such as mine to it's knees. For this reason, I am going to pass on this game. I prefer games such as Lost Planet, Half Life 2, Bioshock, COD4 that are great looking as well as run smooth on current gen high end systems.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By timmiser on 10/28/2007 6:54:19 PM , Rating: 2
That's funny. I personally drool over games that will push my system to the next level. This is when it is exciting to be in PC Gaming.

Bring it on!


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By SiliconAddict on 10/28/2007 8:26:00 PM , Rating: 3
Where is the line between pushing a system to the "next level" (Whatever the hell that means.) and just shit programming? Not claiming that this game is poorly programed but you never saw this shit in years past.
A top of the line, or near top of the line PC could always run rings around any game that came out. Doom 3 changed all this with requirements that weren't even on the market yet. They advertised it as a "game that could grow with your system." which was a load of bullshit. Since then we've seen more and more of these games come out. Games that do not cater to the common denominator in hardware but the absolute high end gamer who has 5K invested in their rig. Instead of upgrading one's hardware a thought....don't buy the game. Developers will get the clue and start coding for high end but not extreme high end rigs.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By SlyNine on 10/31/2007 10:27:14 PM , Rating: 2
What about Giants Citizan Kubuto SP? . That game was way to much for the Geforce 2 Ultra and If memory serves even the Geforce 3 ( it came out after the game) wasnt able to push it at high resolutions smoothly.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By enlil242 on 10/28/2007 11:26:39 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Bring it on!

That makes no sense... Look, I don't mind developers pushing the limits of *current* hardware. That is what I expect them to do. But to create a game that only a future video card / processor can handle is plain stupid and I will not buy a game I cannot play with my system plain and simple...

I just did a wholesale upgrade this past summer complete with and Nforce 680i, Q6600, 8800GTX, 2GB of memory and it seems that I am now just able to play F.E.A.R and Rainbow Six at full settings ... so I guess I'll just pick up Crysis next year or whenver I upgrade again. At least then I'll be able to get it for sub $19.99...

I know with the development cycles the way they are, it may be hard to anticipate the technology that might be availbale when your project is released, but I think they can *try* to make $3,000 machines able to play the game at acceptable settings. (again, see Half Life 2: Orange Box, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Lost Planet).

So, for all of you out there with 22+ inch monitors that pick it up, enjoy playing at medium settings! ;-)


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By timmiser on 10/29/2007 12:56:32 AM , Rating: 5
You guys must be new to PC gaming because this is how it has always been.

Wing Commander 2 and Links 386 were two games that came out when the 386 was a $3000 PC and that was the minimum but they didn't run great until the 486 came out!

US Navy Fighters was released during the 486 days but it wasn't until 2 years later when you could run it at full resolution and settings. It featured resolutions that were unheard of, you couldn't buy a monitor for under $5000 that supported the resolutions it could support! That was back when everybody had 14" monitors at 640x480 or 800x600 or if you dropped a grand on a 17" monitor you could do 1024x768!

Nascar Racing 2003 and Rally Trophy were another couple games where you could forget about running them at max settings at the time they were released.

Even last year, Microsoft Flight Sim X you STILL can't run at max settings yet and get decent frame rates even with the hottest hardware.

The point is, this is what makes PC gaming what it is... Bleeding edge technology! Any whiners need to get over it or go back to their Xboxes and Playstations!


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By NicePants42 on 10/30/07, Rating: 0
RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By 1078feba on 10/30/2007 4:08:02 PM , Rating: 2
Gonna run the demo tonight on my dual Ultras, will report back once I get the chance.

I can say it with confidence right now though: if it chugs at all at 1680x1050 at medium/meduim-high settings, I will be pissed rofl.

FX-60 @3.2
4GB DDR-500


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By BitJunkie on 10/29/2007 3:32:01 AM , Rating: 2
It would be interesting to know what is the bottleneck on your system. I just did a check and when I'm running Crysis on my system (spec in a post above) it shows I'm using 2.25GB of memory, 672MB of which is directly for the Crysis exe and there's 15% CPU utilisation.

If you have 2GB of memory then you will probably be hitting the page file at some point. Which then takes you into the realms of disk IO which I always remember as being bad news. Since being a cash strapped student and hearing my 386 dx 40 thrashing away at it's hard drive - I've always attempted to avoid that ;) It still brings me out in cold shivers.

Anyway, I seem to recall that the larger your gfx memory the more main memory is reserved for the game - so 4GB is probably what is helping me out. There'll be a local optima in performance for people with 2GB of memory using graphics cards with less memory than 768MB or whatever is on the 8800GTX.

I think MS put a hotfix out that reduced the reserved memory for 3d games:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?Fa...

Probably worth checking whether you installed that - can't recall if it comes down via Windows Update...


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By enlil242 on 10/29/2007 4:41:44 PM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, I installed the hotfix during the demo install. It is worth noting that it is not by any means unplayable. I just had to lower the settings, turn of AA, AF if I was to keep playing at 1920x1200. And even though I did that, it chugged in parts. I have just been getting used to games finally running like silk on my machine since I upgraded...

To Timmiser: I am by no means new to gaming. Since Pong I think I have played almost all types of consoles and PC games. Plus I jumped on the 3D train full force when I forked over the cash to upgrade my game system with a DUAL Diamond Monster 3D card setup! ($700 for both in 1996/97). My point is, it doesn't make me a n00b or a console head to want *current* games to take advantage of *current* hardware. I guess it's the software that pushes harware vendors to up the ante...

For that I'll wait to play the game until it plays the way I like it. Simple as that. Perhaps when the '9800GTX' comes out.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By timmiser on 11/1/2007 5:27:57 PM , Rating: 2
Sometimes new games will come out that push the latest hardware to their limits and sometimes the new hardware that comes out has no software to push it to the limit. Either way, some people get annoyed at this which is what I don't understand.


RE: Q6600 and 8800GTX?
By SlyNine on 10/31/2007 10:31:55 PM , Rating: 2
If you are running a 32 bit OS and didnt do the mod to let you use 3gb for apps 1gig for kernal. Then Crysis will never use more then 2 gigs no matter how much ram or VM you have. So anyone with a 32bit OS shouldnt go out and buy more ram if they have 2 gigs allready.


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