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Honda's 2.2-liter i-CTDi diesel engine  (Source: Honda)

2008 Honda Accord EX Sedan  (Source: Honda)
Honda readies its diesel engines for passenger vehicles in the U.S.

DailyTech reported in early June that Honda's newly redesigned Accord would receive a diesel engine. Honda today confirmed that the 2009 Honda Accord would be available with an optional 2.2 liter i-CTDi 4-cylinder Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel engine.

The diesel engine is reported to produce in excess of 150 HP, while torque -- always a diesel strength -- is pegged at 260 lb-ft. The diesel will be emissions legal in all 50 states and is set to deliver real word fuel economy in excess of 40 MPG.

If the fuel economy estimates pass the Environmental Protection Agency's testing, that would make the diesel Accord more fuel efficient than the previous generation Accord Hybrid and Toyota's current Camry Hybrid.

The 2.2 liter diesel is expected to be closely followed by a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel destined for Honda's large vehicles. The engine is 30 percent more fuel efficient than the current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine used in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline according to the Nikkei newspaper.

In addition to the diesel news, Honda also announced that the CR-Z hybrid concept will make it to production. The small two-seater uses the same powertrain as the Civic Hybrid (4-cylinder gasoline engine, Integrated Motor Assist and CVT) and is likely to better its 40 MPG/45 MPG city/highway EPA ratings.

The CR-Z will be accompanied by a $22,000 five-seat Global Small Hybrid (GSH) which will do battle with Toyota's Prius in 2009.



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Cost of diesel
By timmiser on 10/26/2007 5:02:25 PM , Rating: 2
I drive a diesel truck and am pretty bummed at the cost of diesel at the pump. What I gain in fuel mileage is all but lost at the price difference at the pump.

It is 3.59/gallon currently in WA.




RE: Cost of diesel
By Parhel on 10/26/2007 5:13:57 PM , Rating: 2
Where I am, in the Chicago area, it's hard to even find Diesel, and where it's available they charge quite a premium. The only exception seems to be the truck stops on the Interstate. There it's cheaper than regular gas. I don't think I'd buy a Diesel out here unless I regularly drove by the truck stops or it would just be too inconvenient and expensive.


RE: Cost of diesel
By timmiser on 10/26/2007 5:19:15 PM , Rating: 2
Never had any problem finding diesel. I thought I would before I got a diesel vehicle too but for the 5 years I've been driving with a diesel, I have had zero problems finding the green pumps.

Just like with Gasoline, there are a handful of stations in my area where I know I can get the best price and usually fill up at. When traveling, I would say 90% of station off of the travel routes all have diesel.


RE: Cost of diesel
By Spuke on 10/26/2007 7:06:31 PM , Rating: 2
In CA, diesel is everywhere and it's usually lower than 87 octane but I've seen a few places where it's closer to 89 octane in price.


RE: Cost of diesel
By Samus on 10/28/2007 6:05:55 PM , Rating: 2
Diesel is generally 45 octane, although I've seen variations such as 47 and "40+"


RE: Cost of diesel
By Myrandex on 10/26/2007 9:01:14 PM , Rating: 3
And the thing is, Diesel is supposed to be cheaper as it isn't as refined and cheaper to make!


RE: Cost of diesel
By tmouse on 10/29/2007 8:13:11 AM , Rating: 2
Well most of the cost is taxes, Home heating diesel is the same thing but taxed less so they put a dye in it which results in a big fine if your caught with it in your fuel tank. They tend to refine less diesel in the summer and the price usually goes up in the winter with the greater demand in the colder regions for home heating oil.


RE: Cost of diesel
By masher2 (blog) on 11/1/2007 10:29:02 AM , Rating: 2
> "Diesel is supposed to be cheaper as it isn't as refined and cheaper to make! "

You've forgotten both the issue of supply vs. demand, as well as economies of scale. There's far more to the price of fuel than the cost of refining.


RE: Cost of diesel
By Hare on 10/27/2007 6:53:05 AM , Rating: 2
In Europe diesel is pretty much always cheaper than gas. Here in Scandinavia diesel is about 25% cheaper. Maybe it's because fuel costs so much here. Fuel is always 95oct or more. 1 litre of diesel is about 1€ and 1 litre of 95oct gas is around 1.20€. I didn't know that diesel was difficult to find in the states. Here every station sells diesel and regular gas (95oct+). Live and learn...

By the way, if those figures don't make sense try google. "1 litre to gallon" etc.


RE: Cost of diesel
By AnnihilatorX on 10/27/2007 10:41:37 AM , Rating: 2
There is also Imperial gallon and US gallon


RE: Cost of diesel
By Hoser McMoose on 10/29/2007 12:18:21 AM , Rating: 2
Also Google RON vs. MON octane ratings. 95 RON octane, as you would see in Europe, is roughly equivalent to 91 MON octane as you would see in North America.

Octane levels are slightly higher in Europe in general (allows higher compression ratios on the, generally smaller displacement, engines), but not by as much as the numbers on the pump would seem to indicate at first glance.


RE: Cost of diesel
By Vanman345 on 10/31/2007 8:52:37 PM , Rating: 2
Those prices equate to $5.14 usd per gallon for diesel, and $6.54 usd per gallon of what is usually known as "premium" gas with 91 or 92 octane. Ouch...I'll take our prices which are at record highs. Where I live diesel is running around $3.35 per gallon and regular gasoline is about 3.10 per gallon, with premium usually around 20-30 cents more per gallon.

Of course free health care would be nice and offset some of that fuel cost.


RE: Cost of diesel
By horsecharles on 11/1/2007 3:04:26 AM , Rating: 2
My math is different from yours--about double your results(more expensive) after converting currencies.


RE: Cost of diesel
By juarezr on 10/29/2007 10:35:11 AM , Rating: 2
Don't worry!

Here im Brazil it costs 6,61 with tax reduction incentives.
Gasoline costs 9,41 without incentives.
Some more day your government will be forced to cut the price reduction, and the price will equalize.


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