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Honda's 2.2-liter i-CTDi diesel engine  (Source: Honda)

2008 Honda Accord EX Sedan  (Source: Honda)
Honda readies its diesel engines for passenger vehicles in the U.S.

DailyTech reported in early June that Honda's newly redesigned Accord would receive a diesel engine. Honda today confirmed that the 2009 Honda Accord would be available with an optional 2.2 liter i-CTDi 4-cylinder Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel engine.

The diesel engine is reported to produce in excess of 150 HP, while torque -- always a diesel strength -- is pegged at 260 lb-ft. The diesel will be emissions legal in all 50 states and is set to deliver real word fuel economy in excess of 40 MPG.

If the fuel economy estimates pass the Environmental Protection Agency's testing, that would make the diesel Accord more fuel efficient than the previous generation Accord Hybrid and Toyota's current Camry Hybrid.

The 2.2 liter diesel is expected to be closely followed by a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel destined for Honda's large vehicles. The engine is 30 percent more fuel efficient than the current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine used in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline according to the Nikkei newspaper.

In addition to the diesel news, Honda also announced that the CR-Z hybrid concept will make it to production. The small two-seater uses the same powertrain as the Civic Hybrid (4-cylinder gasoline engine, Integrated Motor Assist and CVT) and is likely to better its 40 MPG/45 MPG city/highway EPA ratings.

The CR-Z will be accompanied by a $22,000 five-seat Global Small Hybrid (GSH) which will do battle with Toyota's Prius in 2009.

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RE: Here's a solution Honda
By thejez on 10/26/2007 2:49:10 PM , Rating: 2
FYI an un-modified diesel engine will in fact run on used cooking oil... (i saw this on mythbusters) -- which makes this accord even more enticing... so go right ahead... no one is stopping you.

RE: Here's a solution Honda
By kkwst2 on 10/26/2007 3:47:39 PM , Rating: 2
Not in general without processing it or heating it up. On a moderately cold day, your regular diesel engine is not going to start on cold raw cooking oil. I'd like to see the details of what they did on Myth Busters. Maybe I'll see if I can Tivo a repeat. They play the hell out of those episodes.

Even B100 has it's issues on cold days.

That being said, I think biodiesel is a lot better long-term solution than ethanol and I'm in favor of more diesels. I think this is a good move on Honda's part.

RE: Here's a solution Honda
By DesertCat on 10/26/2007 5:40:06 PM , Rating: 2
Cooking oil works better if it's actually converted to Biodiesel first. That helps deal with some (not all) of the congealing problems at lower temperatures.

I like the idea of these efficient diesel cars that can run biodiesel. In the long run, however, I don't think corn and other food crops are the way to go. They are too inefficient per acre.

One of the most promising areas for biodiesel is growing algae on sewage. It is not in competition with food/farmland and much more can be produced per acre. For example:

RE: Here's a solution Honda
By Spuke on 10/26/2007 7:13:40 PM , Rating: 1
I wonder if one can convert horse shit to biodiesel. I've got PLENTY of that.

RE: Here's a solution Honda
By 16nm on 10/27/2007 11:46:10 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah, but I see enough bullshit on these comment boards to solve the world's energy problems for ever. LOL

This reminds of MadMax Beyond Thunderdome when they were turning pig excrement into fuel. Oh, if it were really so simple.

RE: Here's a solution Honda
By zombiexl on 10/26/2007 8:34:40 PM , Rating: 2
I saw that episode too. You forgot to mention that the myth of it being more economical was busted.

As they pointed out it gets less mpg, and isnt that easy to come by. They also pointed out that while right now it's free, it would definately start costing money if resturaunts knew they could sell their old cooking oil.

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