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Communist China is thinking of creating a Communist party space branch

Chinese astronauts are considering the creation of a space branch of the Communist Party of China (CPC). Even though the growing space nation is not a participating member of the International Space Station (ISS) project, the country hopes to be able to one day create its own permanent space station.

The Chinese astronaut corp now has 14 members -- all communist party members -- and the Communist party only requires three members for a government application.

"If China has its own space station, the taikonauts on mission will carry out the regular activities of a CPC branch in space in the way we do on Earth, such as learning the Party's policies and exchanging opinions on the Party's decisions," said Yang Liwei, China's first astronaut. "If we establish a Party branch in space, it would also be the 'highest' of its kind in the world.”

Yang, current deputy director of the China Astronaut Research Training Center, became the world's first taikonaut aboard the Shenzhou V spacecraft in 2003. During a mission two years later, two more Chinese astronauts were successfully sent to space aboard the Shenzhou VI spacecraft. Only the United States and Russia have successfully launched astronauts into space before China.

China plans another manned launch in mid-2008, this time with a three-man crew.

It will be a long time before an official party can be established, especially since the party branch must need a permanent space residence – a feat China will likely not be able to complete soon.

"Like foreign astronauts having their beliefs, we believe in Communism, which is also a spiritual power," closed Yang in a statement to Chinese media.

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RE: just wondering
By Hawkido on 10/22/2007 3:04:24 PM , Rating: 3
> > "as they had already hinted that they would [surrender] before the bombings..."

What sort of revisionist nonsense is this?

Actually, Masher, there have been documents indicating that a surrender was being negotiated. However, it is often omitted as to who they were going to surrender to. The answer is Russia, and the were going to surrender with provisions that they retain their military power. All they had to do was become Communist and help take over China, Korea, Vietnan, and the rest of the island states in the Pacific Rim, including Hawaii and Australia.

Hey that doesn't sound like a surrender to the US who was doing all the fighting (okay, china and the islanders helped some to). That just sounds like they are picking up a new ally!!!

Nuking them was the only way to bring their war machine down before they fell under the protection of an uneasy ally, that eventually turned into the Red Monster. Without Japan during the Cold War, we would have been hard pressed to hold back the Red Tide, as we still didn't have global bombers. Europe would have fallen to the Red Tide as we wouldn't have had the resources to keep them tied up so neatly on the pacific front.

I still think MacArthur was right in confronting China's communist elements before they took over the country. Had we done that we would have been able to end the cold war much faster (else spawned WWIII). Things worked out okay for the US, we are still standing, the USSR is in pieces. Japan is healthy, poor china can't have a university rally without someone getting ran over by a tank.

RE: just wondering
By masher2 on 10/23/2007 7:30:26 AM , Rating: 1
Actually, Masher, there have been documents indicating that a surrender was being negotiated. However, it is often omitted as to who they were going to surrender to. The answer is Russia,
No. Before the bombings, Hirohito had some limited communications with Stalin in which he indicated a willingness to "settle all scores". However, it most certainly wasn't a surrender, particularly since at that time Japan wasn't even at war with the Soviet Union.

Furthermore, such revisionist attempts ignore the fact that Hirohito -- despite the name 'Emperor' -- had limited power over the nation. As I mentioned above, the Supreme War Council and the population at large both favored continuing the war. It's illuminating to note that, immediately after the surrender, a poll showed over 70% of all Japanese favored death or exile for Hirohito.

The bombing of Hiroshima didn't compel the Japanese to surrender. The later bombing of Nagasaki didn't. Those, combined with the declaration of war by the Soviets, the subsequent (non-nuclear) bombing raids on Tokyo, and widespread Allied drops of propaganda flyers, showing the results of the bombings and threatening more, eventually turned the tide.

RE: just wondering
By masher2 on 10/23/2007 7:35:03 AM , Rating: 1
I also want to point out that, in the month before the bombings, the US intercepted and decrypted the private communications between the Japanese ambassador to the USSR and the Japanese government. Those communiques specifically warned the ambassador against offering even a hint of surrender.

RE: just wondering
By Hawkido on 10/23/2007 9:37:38 PM , Rating: 1
It appears even tho I looked into it I still got fed some revisionist history (truely that is the greatest Civil Rights violation). Tho as I haven't found all the data you have, I will take you datawith a grain of salt... I do agree with you that communist influences in the US have distorted our recorded history after the fact... If you think that the US population would have balked about nuking Japan you don't know enough WWII era people. All my grandparents served (grandma's and grandpa's). They said it was bad that we had to crush the civilians to stop the war machine, but they were not against it. "It was one of those things you weeped about but you knew it had to be done... Like amputating a soldier's leg" That's the way my grandma put it who served as a nurse in Hawaii.

RE: just wondering
By masher2 on 10/23/2007 9:45:01 PM , Rating: 1
> " If you think that the US population would have balked about nuking Japan you don't know enough WWII era people"

Very true. Also, remember perspectives on nuclear weapons are wholly different today, after living through the Cold War era. We consider nuclear weapons to be in a different category than conventional ones, and for good reason.

However, in 1945 a nuclear bomb was just a bomb...albeit a very large one. There was no stigma attached to their usage.

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