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Tests reveal Comcast meddles with P2P network connections

Independent testing performed by the AP has revealed that Comcast actively interferes with peer-to-peer traffic going to and from its high-speed internet subscribers, by impersonating users’ machines and sending fake disconnect signals.
 
While traffic shaping – the act of throttling a given piece of Internet traffic based on its type, like BitTorrent or VOIP – is becoming increasingly common amongst ISPs interested in preserving quality of service, it seems that Comcast is one of the first companies that actively impersonate individual connections. Most providers will simply slow down some traffic in favor of others, or block a protocol’s port number to prevent it from functioning.
 
According to the report, Comcast’s technology affects users across many different networks, including e-Donkey, Gnutella, and BitTorrent. Robb Topolski, a former software quality engineer at Intel and Comcast subscriber, began to notice unexplainable performance problems with his P2P software. Posting to the popular forum DSLreports.com, he collected similar reports from other Comcast users around the country.
 
In the case of BitTorrent, Comcast’s technology only kicks in when a user’s client has a complete copy of the file and is uploading it to other users, and not while downloading.
 
Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas would not comment directly on the matter, instead only saying, “Comcast does not block access to any applications, including BitTorrent.”
 
There are currently very few regulations regarding traffic shaping, and none that specifically cover Comcast’s particular use. The FCC says that while consumers are entitled to run the applications and services of their choice, they are subject to measures of “reasonable network management” by their ISPs. The closest directive governing Comcast’s behavior – which still doesn’t directly apply – would be found in AT&T’s conditions for acquiring BellSouth, where it had to agree not to manipulate traffic in any way based on its origin – not service type.
 
Comcast’s “traffic discrimination” has important ramifications for the growing number of services that are leveraging P2P as a means to distribute large files quickly and cheaply. A company like Blizzard Entertainment, who relies on BitTorrent for distributing World of Warcraft updates that often measure hundreds of megabytes in size, may have trouble reaching its players if it or they are behind a Comcast internet connection. This problem will only worsen if other ISPs decide on a similar course of action.
 
Ashwin Navin, co-founder and president of BitTorrent Inc. confirmed the AP’s findings, and noted that he has seen similar practices from several Canadian ISPs.
 
“They're using sophisticated technology to degrade service, which probably costs them a lot of money. It would be better to see them use that money to improve service,” said Navin.


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RE: Bye bye Comcast
By JAB on 10/20/2007 12:19:57 AM , Rating: 3
Most people dont have much of a choice. For many it is the only choice for others it is them or one not so great alternative. There is no sign the federal government is going to support competition any time soon.

The over the air broadband might have some hope but if history repeats the big companys will gobble it all up and avoid loosing control.


RE: Bye bye Comcast
By TomCorelis on 10/20/2007 1:54:58 AM , Rating: 4
Most people are also apathetic to the details of their internet connection. If it's web, and it's fast, they're happy.


RE: Bye bye Comcast
By JAB on 10/20/2007 6:38:08 AM , Rating: 2
Uninformed or or resigned to bad serves applys to many also. When a second cable internet company entered the market people started becoming interested in the quality of their connection. Not surprisingly service on the old network improved rapidly once real competition entered the market but many switched anyway.

My long retired parents are surprisingly upset over the speed of their cable. They tried to get a second DSL so they would not have to share but couldn't. They view it the same way they viewed the 100 USD long distance phone bills that are not free- just something you have to put up with.


RE: Bye bye Comcast
By euclidean on 10/22/2007 11:04:03 AM , Rating: 2
What most people don't realize also is that they have Comcast...I only wish I could get comcast instead of high-junk Charter Comm.... :(


RE: Bye bye Comcast
By abhaxus on 10/20/2007 2:22:28 AM , Rating: 2
A) You are exactly right on people not having a choice. For me (a high paying 8mb tier customer from the month they started offering it in my area) I have no choice but comcast, or 1.5mbps DSL.

B) To the reply directly above me (or below, don't know how this will turn out), not only are people apathetic, people can still leech under comcast's system. I still regularly max out my download bandwidth using either Azureus or uTorrent. Upload bandwidth only stays constant when other comcast users are leeching from me.

C) My choice was to drop from 8mbps/768kbps to their 6mbps/384kbps tier. I made sure when I disconnected the high speed tier that I told the comcast guy to make a note on my file that I was specifically disconnecting because of their fraudulent BT actions. He probably didn't, but it's the best I could do.

Sadly, on the 384kbps upload tier, even if uploading at less than half of my max available bandwidth, my DL speeds and latency go to hell, whereas with my 768 upload I could run within about 5KB/s of my max and still be fine.

It's a shame, really. I would switch to DSL in a heartbeat if they had 6mbps service where I am. I pray for the day FiOS comes to my area.


RE: Bye bye Comcast
By KamiXkaze on 10/21/2007 9:11:34 PM , Rating: 2
yep when your options are limited there nothing else to, but too deal with it.

KxK


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