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With Crysis, they're not just system requirements, they're system demands

Crysis will be the landmark game this year for hardcore PC gamers to prove that their platform of choice is technically superior to the newest consoles. Of course, the required hardware to run Crysis costs far more than a $400 console, but that’s always been the case with the cutting edge of PC gaming.

After months of guess work surrounding the system requirements of Crysis, the official specifications were released today. Gamers running Windows Vista will need slightly faster systems with more memory than those still using Windows XP.

Minimum System Requirements
OS Windows XP or Windows Vista
Processor 2.8 GHz or faster (XP) or 3.2 GHz or faster (Vista)
Memory 1.0 GB RAM (XP) or 1.5 GB RAM (Vista)
Video Card 256 MB
Hard Drive 12GB
Sound Card DirectX 9.0c compatible

Supported Processors:
Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz (3.2 GHz for Vista) or faster
Intel Core 2.0 GHz (2.2 GHz for Vista) or faster
AMD Athlon 2800+ (3200+ for Vista) or faster.

Supported Video Cards:
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT or greater; ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Radeon X800 Pro for Vista) or greater. Laptop versions of these chipsets may work but are not supported. Integrated chipsets are not supported. Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required.

Recommended System Requirements
OS Windows XP / Vista
Processor Intel Core 2 DUO @ 2.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+
Memory 2.0 GB RAM
GPU NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS/640 or similar

Unfortunately, those with minimum spec machines can expect Crysis to look nothing like what they’ve seen so far in video and screenshots. Crytek’s CEO, Cevat Yerli, explained to GameSpot, “The quality of Crysis running on [minimum spec hardware] does equal the shading and texture quality of games that are about three years old, but with polygonal detail that is bigger then (sic) games from that same generation. The scaling happens in various areas, such as shading-quality, texture-resolution, shadows. View distance and interactivity are close to Far Cry.”

Yerli later added, “I am happy that we managed to scale down Crysis--which is on average 10 times more pushy than Far Cry--down to Far Cry specs. But Crysis is a high-end game that shall define what's now and in the future. Enjoy it as such as much as you can. It's like a concept car available and affordable now. I like also this quote somebody gave: "It's like a sexy blond girl with a PhD degree," upon which I said, "But with curly hair."”

Crysis is set to release to retail on November 16, with the playable demo available on October 26.



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Stop repeating this stupid lie
By xNIBx on 10/10/2007 4:01:39 AM , Rating: 5
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Of course, the required hardware to run Crysis costs far more than a $400 console, but that’s always been the case with the cutting edge of PC gaming.


This isnt true. A 8800gts 320mB costs 280$. That's what you need to play crysis with high details along with any modern dual core cpu. Even if you dont already have a dual core cpu, you can get one for 100$ and still be below the 400$.

People already have a pc. They wont need to buy a new one. They just need to get a damn gpu and a damn cpu. Hell, you can still add some memory into that and be below 400$.

And dont forget, online playing/mods/themes/extra content are free for computers. Which means that for a 4 period of online pc gaming, you save 200$(xbox live gold), plus whatever the extras cost. And pc games cost 20$ cheaper, so if you buy 5 games a year, for a 4 year period, you can save 400$. If you buy 10 games a year, that's an extra 800$ cost for the consoles. All these add up.

Console gaming isnt cheaper than pc gaming. This is a freaking myth. Consoles have relative cheap hardware but they have hidden costs. And even the hardware isnt that cheap compared to computers, because everyone has a computer anyway. So most of the time, the only thing you need to buy to enjoy pc gaming, is a gpu.

And dont give me the bs that "consoles enable you to play games for 4-5 years". Pcs can do exactly the same. A p4@2.4ghz with a 9700pro and 1gB ram was enough to play games for almost 5 years. Pc games can scale. Even if pc games require a better pc to play with full detail, you can always just reduce the resolution/details and play them with your old pc.

So can you please stop spreading this bs about pc gaming? This is a primarily pc site, so i expect you to know better than to spread bs.




RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By rdeegvainl on 10/10/2007 6:14:56 AM , Rating: 4
Seriously, stop, breathe, then read what he wrote.
What is the cost of the hardware for crysis. add that up, it is more than 400$, much more.
He isn't talking about the price of software, he isn't talking about paying for xbox live gold, (which isn't a requirement to play games) and he isn't talking about all that extra crap you threw in there.
The required hardware to play crysis. You have to get the motherboard, the proc, the memory, hardrive, videocard, keyboard, mouse, couple other things.
If you already had parts then you already paid for them. you don't just drop them out of the equation.
He's not spreading bs, the statement stands.
All the benifits you listed for PC gaming, that is what you call, Getting what you paid for. Notice you still paid for it.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By dflynchimp on 10/10/2007 11:15:15 AM , Rating: 3
what the man is talking about is upgrading.

It really isn't any different from Consoles. You buy one, and in five years or so you spill on another.

With PCs, unless we look at the people with exhuberantly thick wallets who splurge every year on the top of the line product release, an average gamer can spend $400 every five years and be perfectly satisfied with his/her gaming experience. And depending on when in a product life-cycle they upgrade (getting a $750 7800GTX 512MB or $280 8800GTS later) they can be very efficient about upgrading.

You might say "hey, in 5 years that 8800GTS will be a piece of crap and will only be able to run games at the image quality of circa 2007" well guess what, in 5 years time the PS3 and Xbox360 will also be considered out of date and only able to run games at the 2007 standard.

The biggest plus is that PC gamers have near infinite backwards compatibility. No emulation involved, just driver updates that makes older games perfectly viable.

With Crysis, it isn't required for one to toss out all the old hardware. If they already own a dual core cpu then all they need is a video card, and possible some ram if they only have 1GB. Hard-drives and all the peripherals could be saved as well. I've been using the same optical mouse, case and keyboard for 5 years and plan to use them until they wither up and die of old age (which they wont). So you can't compare the pricing of a PC rig since there's so much room for savings/backwards compatibility. I'd love to see you try plugging a Xbox controller into the 360...


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By darkpaw on 10/10/2007 11:41:42 AM , Rating: 2
$400 every 5 years won't get you much of an upgrade. With 5 years difference you'd need to replace everything from the Motherboard up, except the case and optical drives. $400 for a full upgrade will buy a low end system that won't get you 5 years of use, it'll be scraping slightly above minimum specs on current software.

My current system is only two years old this month and due changes in sockets and memory I'd have to replace everything to perform a minor upgrade. That would definatey cost more then $400.


By dflynchimp on 10/10/2007 11:54:50 AM , Rating: 2
I suppose $400 is stretching it a little, but one can always frog hop

EG spend $280 on a videocard this year, then in two years upgraded the cpu/mobo/RAM, and wait another two/three years to get a new video card.

Actually, In the end it really is kinda hard to get a PC to price as competitively as consoles, so the main attraction here is really versatility, backwards compatibility and tweaking ability. There's definitely a large market for those three factors, and I'm just one of the many who still endorse PC gaming despite the costs.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By bpurkapi on 10/28/2007 12:30:45 PM , Rating: 2
if you are smart, 5 yrs is practical to wait for an upgrade. Too often we see rehashes of the same product with inflated retail costs. 5 yrs gives you the amount of time to figure out what is a trend, what is worthwhile, and what is a fluke.

I remember when Nvidia released SLI and thinking that it would be a good deal to pick up a mobo that had it, so that later when my vid card got older i could buy another at a cheaper price and get good results gaming wise. 2 years later I've figured out that SLI is only intended for the bleeding edge and offers no real benefit to those looking for a cheap upgrade solution.

As of now i look at the requirements and am glad that the computer I built 3 yrs ago is close in specs to the recommended settings. Also the core 2 upgrade path is cheap!

I recently went on newegg and created a wish list of a mobo, proc, and ram for 300 dollars. The 8 series nvidia gpus are overpriced right now, but that is because ati's problems at being competitive.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By Martimus on 10/12/2007 1:47:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The biggest plus is that PC gamers have near infinite backwards compatibility. No emulation involved, just driver updates that makes older games perfectly viable.


Really? Than why can't I play my old favorite "Under a Killing Moon" under Windows XP. Why can't I pop in "Syndicate" and play a few levels, like I would like to? Because XP doesn't have legacy support for DOS based games. So I need to emulate that support, and amazingly they run very slow. These games are over 10 years old, and my Athlon 64 3500+ can't seem to keep up with the emulation fast enough to make the game playable at an enjoyable rate.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By Hieyeck on 10/12/2007 5:32:50 PM , Rating: 2
Because that's Microsoft diddling you over, not the hardware. Can a Wii play N64 games? Nope. Can the PS3 deal with PS1 games? Roll the dice. Hell, the PS3 has some bugs with some PS2 games, and that's only one generation back. Dos games are what... THREE generations back (XP/2K - 0, 98/95 - 1, 3.1 - 2, DOS - 3) and FIFTEEN years at youngest. We're talking NES old. XP still has emulation for 98/95 which run some of the younger DOS games, and DOSBOX works like a charm if people bother to read the f...*ine* manual. Hell, on a PC, if you REALLY wanted, you could load up a VM of DOS - VMWare has a free version of its software anyone can use privately.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By Martimus on 10/14/2007 2:19:12 PM , Rating: 2
DOSBOX is SLOOOOWWWWWW. I can't even play a 15 Year old game at the highest resolutions, because it chunks so bad.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By darkpaw on 10/10/2007 11:12:06 AM , Rating: 3
Seriously, I love PC gaming but trying to say console gaming isn't cheaper is a complete croc.

I bought my PS2 in 2000, will have had it for 7 years in December and it still has had good games come out for it this year. Total cost $300 for system, $50 for extra controller, $40 for memory card. Haven't bought anything else for it buy games since then and game costs are roughly the same.

That same year I built a 1Ghz Athlon system with 512mb RAM and something like a 20gb HDD, and a Nvidia TNT2 for about $1800. That system lasted about 18 months before needing a complete overhaul. If I added up everything I've spent on PC gaming in the past seven years it'd probably be around $5-7K and I don't buy the highest end stuff and I don't upgrade every year. In the same time period I've spent about $1600 on consoles and accessories and I have everything from last gen and everything but a 360 from this gen (hopefully I'll be getting that for xmas so $2100 total by end of the year).

PC games edge out console games in price this generation, but unless you buy a horde of games that won't add up to the price of a single video card upgrade.

Console gaming is very much cheaper then PC gaming, but PC gaming generally is the more satisfying experience.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By Kenenniah on 10/10/2007 5:06:42 PM , Rating: 2
Overall, this kind of argument depends a lot on the specific user. Unlike a game console, when looking at money spend on a PC you have to look at all its uses. If all you use a computer for is gaming with some internet usage, then the comparison is valid.
However, if you use a PC for a wide variety of applications such as for work/homework, audio/video editing, etc., part of the cost must be attributed to those functions as well. So only a portion of the PC cost can be directly compared.

Also take into consideration the many games that have TONS of fan created content. Neverwinter Nights, The Elder Scroll Series, and a long list of others have enormous amoutns of additional content available free online. For the price of 1 game, you might end up being able to have the equivalent content of 20 or more games.

Console gaming overall is cheaper than PC gaming I agree, but only if gaming is the only real use for your computer. People like me need the high-end parts of our computers for other purposes, so in a way gaming on a PC is cheaper for me since I don't have to buy anything else.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By rdeegvainl on 10/11/2007 10:14:36 AM , Rating: 2
No, the cost doesn't change based on what else you use it for. That just makes it more useful.
That is like saying the PS3 is cheaper than the 360 cause of the blu ray included.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By Targon on 10/28/2007 7:03:33 PM , Rating: 2
The difference between your standard computer and a game machine that can compete with the PS3(except for playing Blu-ray movies) is $500 at the most($400 for the vid card and $100 for extra memory).

Many people look at the cost to build a computer from scratch, but I consider the cost of your average computer(dual core processor, 2 gigs of memory, 250+ gig hard drive, DVD-RW drive) to be at around the $550 to $600 range. If you then say how much a game machine would cost, add it to the cost of that existing computer and bingo, you have a decent price parity with current generation game consoles.

No one buys a computer ONLY for games, so the cost of the "gaming" components is the cost that you should be looking at in my opinion.

And, when it comes to Blu-ray, since I don't have a $1200 panel for my TV, I wouldn't see a benefit from it anyway.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By mindless1 on 10/29/2007 1:05:19 PM , Rating: 2
The cost definitely changes based on what you use it for, unless you don't plan on owning a PC at all! Otherwise the cost is just keeping modern enough for the game vs buying a whole second gaming console.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By Hieyeck on 10/12/2007 6:07:33 PM , Rating: 2
The system you listed 7 years ago wasn't even CLOSE to bleeding edge. Nowadays, you can have a decent systems for $1200. $120 CPU, $100 RAM, $150 GPU, $180 mobo, + parts. Hell, now that I actually price it out, $1200 can get you a rip-roaring system. I've actually built an $800 ($700 after rebates) system for a friend of mine and for all the gaming he does, he hasn't complained a BIT about performance. (On a side note, people don't need more power, they need a cleaner system. My friend's $800 system is going on 3 years now and I go over once in a while to clean up his system (or do a total reformat) to keep it running fast.)

All the same while, consoles are steadily increasing in price. $300 for the Wii (at release)? How much was the N64? $199 (at release). Don't even TRY to bring up the 360 and PS3. MS and Sony LOSE money when you buy a console and only make it back when you buy games. Actually, this is probably what irks me most - NO ONE has brought up the fact that MS and Sony lose out everytime a console is sold, while PCs, even having MORE levels of middlemen, still profit at all levels from each sale of a component. I think the 360 was losing out $150 per console sold at time of release? so the actual price would've been $550 to not make ANY profit on each console. half the price to build yourself a decent rig from scratch. The PS3 isn't even funny. $600 and it's STILL flopping out a few hundred.


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By Axbattler on 10/28/2007 3:23:00 AM , Rating: 2
Why do you care that MS/Sony lose money for each console sold? From a consumer point of view, that is completely irrelevant. If MS was actually charging $550, then you would have a point about how it is half the price of a decent rig. But it's not, so that's point is moot.

And actually, his system, while not the 'bleeding edge' is pretty good for its time. Seven years ago, that's be 3Q 2000. The 1Ghz T-Bird was released around 2Q 2000, so only months old. The TNT2 would be the weakest link, though only a year old. 512MB of RAM was pretty unusual even when you look at test systems in reviews.

The way I see it, if you play fairly demanding games on PC, yes you will have to pay a premium on hardware (but less on the software; to me, that is the only real argument against consoles when it comes to costs). No matter how many reformatting you do, I do not see a 3 years old $800 play Crysis well. 3 years ago, 6800 Ultra would have been the bleeding edge, setting you back an excess of $400. Even if you go for a 'lesser' version (which -just- makes the minimum spec), it would still cost most of a console (which has a product cycle longer than 3 years on average).


RE: Stop repeating this stupid lie
By Martimus on 11/1/2007 2:22:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This isnt true. A 8800gts 320mB costs 280$. That's what you need to play crysis with high details along with any modern dual core cpu. Even if you dont already have a dual core cpu, you can get one for 100$ and still be below the 400$


Now that the demo is out, I think that has been proven wrong. But the game actually looks very good at the lower settings, so I can't complain that I can't run it at the higher settings.


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