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Seagate Momentus 5400  (Source: Seagate Technology)
Seagate's latest notebook offerings, 3 capacities with hybrid NAND flash technology, does not currently produce promised results

The first Seagate hybrid hard disk drives are now shipping but the reviews will disappoint. Seagate first announced the Momentus 5400 PSD line of hybrid 2.5-inch hard disk drives this past June promising a performance boost based on the hybrid design using NAND flash memory for use with the Windows Vista operating system.

The Momentus 5400 PSD line is shipping in capacities of 80 GB, 120 GB, and 160 GB of magnetic storage combined with 256 MB of flash. The manufacturer's specifications state a 44 MB/sec sustained stransfer rate and 8 MB of that oldschool cache. The average seek time is 12.5 ms with an average latency of 5.6 ms. Combined with Microsoft Windows Vista's ReadyDrive technology hybrid hard drives are supposed to improve system performance, hold increased reliability, and reduce power consumption and/or increase laptop battery life.

However, the first impressions of the first hybrid hard disk drives are leaving consumers with those familiar "empty promise" feelings. Is Seagate's product to blame?

Melissa Johnson, a product manager for Seagate, stated that the cause of the lack of performance improvements over the original flavor of the Momentus 5400 line was in the BIOS and operating system drivers.

Earlier this year, before any hybrid hard drives were available to the general public, Lenovo bloggers made bold claims that first generation hybrid hard drives would be a bust. So far, it seems those claims were true. We can only hope these issues are resolved or the entire idea of a hybrid hard disk drive may become another technology that never could.


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RE: Another hit on Vista...
By AraH on 10/8/2007 3:50:25 PM , Rating: 2
when a dual core is pushed to 80% usage for two seconds after pressing 'start' (what i still call it even though that's not written anymore), then there's a serious issue, next thing you know is spider solitaire's burning a smoking hole where your computer was...

and before you argue it was an incorrect configuration (or some other BS), i've seen this on at least 3 different computers...


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By TomZ on 10/8/2007 3:56:37 PM , Rating: 1
We're wondering what you're smoking.... :o)

Seriously, though - I've never seen what you're describing on any of our Vista machines here. How much RAM do these machines have that you're describing?


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By porkpie on 10/8/2007 4:19:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
How much RAM do these machines have that you're describing?
Why they all have 640K, whether they need it all or not!


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By AraH on 10/8/2007 4:47:56 PM , Rating: 2
the machines varied between 1 and 2 gigs, they were toshiba satellite laptops of varying caliber. I've seen this on quite a few machines, though some had it worse then others, never actually investigated thoroughly, but saw these machines in passing (usually when one of my friends gets a new laptop)


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By BitJunkie on 10/8/2007 5:26:36 PM , Rating: 2
I just bought cheap as chips HP box for a couple of hundred quid: 3.5Ghz Celeron D (single core), 1GB ram, 8 MB shared video RAM and integrated intel graphics. I was bored okay?

I tried to install Win 98, WinXP sp2, Vista Home Premium x86, Fedora Core 7 and Ubuntu 7.04 on it over the last few days. Yeah, I'm a masochist! I couldn't get Win 98 to bootstrap so that bombed (I suspect a knackered disk). The others all installed cleanly.

With out a doubt, Vista was the most demanding and it used the Basic UI (no Glass). The intial boot when the pikey symantec apps updated while the disk was indexing and updates were being downloaded and installed was a bit painful. After that though and a couple of boot cycles of optimisation later it was working just fine. By that I mean I could use IE7, MS Mail and MS Works with no problem / noticeably painful UI lag. That's 250 quid and you have a box that can run Vista in a useable if cut down way.

Those laptops you mention must have been really poor and a few generations old.


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By jajig on 10/8/2007 7:25:34 PM , Rating: 2
Windows 98 requires a special patch from Microsoft to run on processors above 2GHz.


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By The Sword 88 on 10/8/2007 6:26:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah so on my Dell E1705 laptop when I click start my CPU meter "jumps" to 5% and comes right back down. I have a Core Duo 2.0Ghz and 2 gigs of RAM and an Nvidia Geforce Go 7900GS. SO I am not sure why your machines are struggling

I personally love Vista I only wish they would optimize their cool motion backgrounds some more as I notice slowdown in games if I have a moving background and iTunes open wheras when I play with a plain background and iTunes I am fine. But thats a very minor issue.


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By SavagePotato on 10/9/2007 4:51:54 PM , Rating: 2
Problems such as these come from only one place, hardware compatibility problems. On of the other employees here has a total POS HP system that using the ATI xpress 200 chipset.

The computer works in XP however trying to load vista on it crapped out horribly. The hardware just doesn't work right in the OS, but see heres the thing. Who gives a rats ass?

It came shipped and tested with XP which it is running fine, theres no need to upgrade. It's an old POS machine, why would you want to upgrade some old package system or even notebook. If you are thinking of vista and just don't have the chops to set up your own hardware, buy a preconfigured system and be done with it.

Notebooks at their best are extremely proprietary. Most times you have to use very specific manufacturer made drivers with the notebook rather than reference drivers. An example is ATI video hardware on a recent laptop I reloaded, the ATI catalyst suite would not work with it whatsoever, and I had no choice but use the older drivers from the laptop manufacturers page.


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By Fallen Kell on 10/8/2007 4:22:25 PM , Rating: 2
I don't see this at all either, and I have a Core 2 Duo E6600. I think it is your RAM. If you didn't notice, you need more of it. That is just the way of life. That said, if you didn't get Vista64 when you have a 64bit capable CPU, well, you made a bad choice because you can't use 4GB of RAM which is the new sweet spot (like how 2GB was the sweet spot in XP).


RE: Another hit on Vista...
By Treckin on 10/8/2007 5:05:57 PM , Rating: 1
This is a result of ANY number of things, although most likely sidebar initializing, firewall initializing, or superfetch doing its FUCKING job...

I hate the Vista haters more than they hate Vista. Im a VERY happy user of Vista, not only because of the tangible feature such as better account controls, tighter security bleh bleh bleh, but the UI increased ten fold in efficiacy from where I stand.

Look, vista is more stable than XP ever was, and is more stable than it is now.

simply the command stops (ie ctr alt del) are impressive. I have never had Vista freeze up on me to the point where I cant move the mouse. I cant say Ive ever had to do a hard reset actually.


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