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Flash Based Zune Line Art  (Source: FCC)
Specifications on flash-based Zune leaked by FCC

There has been much talk online recently about the forthcoming Microsoft Zune 2.0 update that is expected any day now. While rumors were circulating about a flash-based Zune, little hard evidence was available other than nebulous statements like competitively priced and capacities similar to other offerings.

While there is still no official word from Microsoft on specifications for the new Zune line, some hard information came across the FCC exhibits today that sheds some light on the flash-based Zune devices. The juicy information about the flash-based Zune was not given thanks to a Microsoft Request for Confidentiality.

The information that was available from the FCC shows a line drawing of the flash based Zune along with labels for the devices labeled 4GB and 8GB. Some were hoping for a 16GB flash based Zune, but at launch it seems 16GB is not meant to be. There is still no word on pricing for the device, but if the line art is to scale, the flash-based Zune is very near the size of the old, skinny iPod Nano.



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RE: no 16 GB!
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/2/2007 5:38:57 PM , Rating: 2
Doesn't seem THAT expensive to me:

SanDisk Sansa View 16GB costs $200
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDMX10R-016GK-A70-Sa...

It's only Apple that wants to charge you an arm and a leg:

iPod nano 8GB $199
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_e/102-0198509-32...


RE: no 16 GB!
By ChipDude on 10/2/2007 5:47:46 PM , Rating: 2
Apple is looking to make lots of margin on their player

SANDISK is in the business of moving more memory and making money on their core flash business and getting anything above that.

As such these two have very different end goal and margin goals targets too.

I am often lost how another 8GB makes a material difference you your daily listening experience. No question makes keeping your whole invetory on your player more convienient


RE: no 16 GB!
By kmmatney on 10/2/2007 7:30:32 PM , Rating: 2
an additional 8 GB makes a difference as I like to use my Ipod as a backup device as well as a music player. I have about 6 gigs of music on it, and about 2 GBs of files. You can buy cheap memory sticks for backups, but its nice having things all in one place, and a 16 GB system would allow me to have some serious backups. I also take better care of my Ipod than my memory sticks.


RE: no 16 GB!
By JeffDM on 10/2/2007 10:30:16 PM , Rating: 2
I'd understand if you wanted to put media on it, but a backup device that's at risk of getting stolen by a pickpocket when you're in public?

For backups, you are better off buying an external hard drive and keeping it in the closet while not backing up.

At any rate, for just music, I've managed to do OK with 1GB if I use a program to auto-rotate songs I've listened to, 4GB is pretty comfortable.


RE: no 16 GB!
By kmmatney on 10/2/2007 11:47:44 PM , Rating: 2
The other advantage of more space is being able to have music at higher bit rates.


RE: no 16 GB!
By ChipDude on 10/2/2007 5:47:47 PM , Rating: 1
Apple is looking to make lots of margin on their player

SANDISK is in the business of moving more memory and making money on their core flash business and getting anything above that.

As such these two have very different end goal and margin goals targets too.

I am often lost how another 8GB makes a material difference you your daily listening experience. No question makes keeping your whole invetory on your player more convienient


RE: no 16 GB!
By Hieyeck on 10/2/2007 5:59:32 PM , Rating: 2
Forseeable future, but for now, it might be they're looking to compete with comparable players first. Alas, with no price tag released yet, it's hard to speculate.

Furthermore, if there are any bugs with the new version, it's cheaper for MS to replace 4 and 8 GBs on warranty/recall. If they're like most other companies, they probably just send a replacement and keep the non-working one to debug/refurbish.


RE: no 16 GB!
By spluurfg on 10/2/2007 7:07:09 PM , Rating: 2
Seems a bit unfair, seeing how SanDisk is such a massive player in the flash memory market... Though I'm sure we're all willing to acknowledge that Apple charges a premium.


RE: no 16 GB!
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/2/2007 7:24:09 PM , Rating: 2
Life isn't fair, business isn't fair :)


RE: no 16 GB!
By spluurfg on 10/6/2007 5:07:48 AM , Rating: 2
An unfair comparison =P Of course I don't consider it unfair to be able to offer a similar product for less. Just that you can't call Apple nazis for having a higher memory cost.


RE: no 16 GB!
By hrah20 on 10/2/2007 9:24:50 PM , Rating: 2
(Though I'm sure we're all willing to acknowledge that Apple charges a premium.)

apple is the new sony !!!


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