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Taking into consideration customer and partner requests, Microsoft will sell Windows XP for another 5 months

In a recent press release Microsoft announced it will extend sales of its Windows XP operating system to OEMs and retail channels for five months over the initial end date, through June 30, 2008. The move comes after a great amount of feedback from customers and partners regarding the original end-of-sale date of January 31, 2008.

Mike Nash, the corporate vice president of Windows Product Management, stated, "While we’ve been pleased with the positive response we’ve seen and heard from customers using Windows Vista, there are some customers who need a little more time to make the switch to Windows Vista."

Nash went on to say that Microsoft's original policy of a four-year availability of operating systems to OEM and retail channels had been established in 2002. However, due to the delays in the launch of Windows Vista, Microsoft felt that offering Windows XP for sale for an additional five months would make more sense.

When asked about what Microsoft was hearing in terms of feedback from customers regarding Windows Vista Nash stated, "With more than 60 million licenses sold as of this summer, Windows Vista is on track to be the fastest-selling operating system in Microsoft’s history."

Microsoft's Nash feels that the strong sales thus far are due to the doubling of sales of pre-built desktop and laptop computers bundled with Windows Vista as the primary OS. However, recently Microsoft also decided to offer OEMs theoption to let customers downgrade from Windows Vista to Windows XP.

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RE: You can't force ..
By wallijonn on 9/28/2007 2:25:15 PM , Rating: 2
Notice how XP phased out 2000 over a 2-3 year period? Notice how all the whiners pointing out Vista as being a terrible bloated OS with DRM are the same people who said the same thing about XP when we were all running 98SE and 2000?

Remember how if you had W2K you had to disable hyper threading in the BIOS? WXP basically can run on two cpus (license). Now that quad cores are out Vista will be the way to go since they probably won't work too well under a two cpu license restriction. But many of these people would prefer to use a 64bit Vista, not the 32 bit version. One will therefore have to buy whole new apps., bringing the cost up above and beyond the $300 or $400 Vista license. For those prices it doesn't make sense to run 32bit apps. within a 64bit environment.

As far as I am concerned Vista is bloated since it reserves some 800MB of memory (check your BIOS). To run Vista you need the latest processors, which means building whole new machines. People may not want to invest another $2000 for a new PC. People may therefore elect to keep their XP machines as long as possible. If it is a matter of security, then building a server which does all the security functions may be the way to go. One then can connect their XP machines to this one server which does functions as a firewall, DNS, email, anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-trojan, anti BHO, file server. The XP machine freed from power robbing apps. (anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-trojan, anti-BHO, Qtime, Real Player, Flash Player, fax, etc.) will regain their speed. In effect WXP machines could become server centric. Then Vista isn't really needed for the slower machines. (Let's wait and see how Home Server works out.)

There are still millions of single cores in State agencies and private businesses (ever notice how some auto parts shops are still using DOS type screens? Because the apps. still work and they don't want to change over.)

Vista necessitates a new PC. That is the reality. Many may not be inclined to buy new machines. Period.

RE: You can't force ..
By darkpaw on 9/28/2007 2:34:27 PM , Rating: 2
Cores don't matter for licensing. MS decided when multi-core processors first became available that they would license per socket. XP pro (and Vista too afaik) for example is good for two sockets, doesn't matter if thats 2, 4, 8, or in the future 16+ actual cores.

As for the rest, POS systems like the autoshop one you mentioned have no need to upgrade because the many of the programs are written for old OS like DOS and are not networked directly to the Internet so security isn't a big issue. MS doesn't really care all that much about upgrades anyways, 90%+ of the sales are from new machine purchases with OEM installs.

RE: You can't force ..
By acer905 on 9/28/2007 2:56:01 PM , Rating: 2
LOl, when i first read that, i thought you meant the other type of POS, which does work well in that sentence... Stupid double acronyms

RE: You can't force ..
By ZaethDekar on 9/30/2007 9:55:54 AM , Rating: 2
You don't have to spend $2000 dollars to build a Vista capable machine.

My brother just built a full system for $800. His specs:

ASUS M2A-VM HDMI AM2 AMD 690G HDMI uATX AMD Motherboard x 1
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADX6400CZWOF - Retail x 1
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive x 1
SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B - OEM x 1
Antec 761345-75025-7 120mm Green LED Case Fan - Retail x 2
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail x 2
OKGEAR Cable Model OK18ARUB12 - Retail x 2
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black Computer Case - Retail x 1
Antec earthwatts EA500 ATX12V v2.0 500W Power Supply - Retail x 1

Granted he used onboard video... He still uses Vista Ultimate just fine. Then for a good gfx card.. I got a XFX 8600 GT XXX for $89 dollars after a $30 mail in rebate. (By the way you can get software to overclock it and equal the GTS XXX version and it has been stable for three days of system up time. Playing Quake wars on max settings + downloading short CGI films with Azureus + having AIM, MSN, Yahoo and Steam open downloading three or four games. I am also using a Athlon 64 3800 with 4 gigz OCZ DDR 400 ram with timings of 2-2-3-5 and a SATA II 500g WD AAKS drive. I also have stock cooling with a Antex P180 case with 1 extra fan in the front.)

I can play any game I want right now with full settings on DX9. Even new releases. On DX10 I will probably have to put it on med-low but it will still look just as great if the game is setup right.

So for a total of $800 you get a top of the line AMD system with a great gfx card. Granted if you are just upgrading you can cut costs easily. Figure take out 60 for the harddrive, 40 for the DVD drive, 80 for the PSU, 60 for the case, dont need the cables so thats 15 bucks, and save 30 from the fans if you already have your case cooling.

Thats a total (with GFX card of my same type without MIR):


P.S. The 8600 GT does NOT require a special power connector. The GTS version does however.

RE: You can't force ..
By Zoomer on 10/2/2007 10:14:52 AM , Rating: 2
This machine, by any measure, is not "top of the line".

"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine." -- Bill Gates
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