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Reportedly Microsoft marketing images showing the new bundles  (Source: Kotaku)
Xbox 360 to come with Forza 2 and Marvel for free this holiday season

Although manufacturing costs of the Xbox 360 will be cheaper than ever after the switch to the 65nm CPU platform codenamed Falcon, Microsoft will likely stick with its current pricing throughout the rest of the year. But that’s not to say that there won’t be some value added to help entice those on the fence to choose Microsoft’s console.

Briefly spotted on Best Buy’s online store, but now removed, were two pages that listed new bundles that added Forza Motorsport 2 and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance to both the Xbox 360 Elite and Xbox 360 Premium SKUs. Both consoles were listed at their current prices, indicating that the two games were an added value package.

Gaming blog Kotaku uncovered marketing images for both the aforementioned bundles mid-August, and the appearance of such bundles in Best Buy nearly confirms their pending existence on the market.

The packaging shown in the images also matches up with previous information provided by Microsoft’s marketing, which added taglines “Go Pro” to the Xbox 360 Premium system while the Xbox 360 Elite displays “Go Big.”

Bundling games with the Xbox 360 is already standard practice in Canada. Best Buy  in Canada is selling Xbox 360 Premium with Forza Motorsport 2 and Amped 3, while Wal-Mart substitutes one winter sport with another by adding in NHL 2K8 with Forza Motorsport 2.

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RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By ryedizzel on 9/28/2007 6:59:50 AM , Rating: -1
Would you people PLEASE stop bitching about this!! Miscrosoft extended the warranty to 3 years and will fix, or most likely replace your console with a brand new one, if this ends up happening to you. So it's not like your gonna lose your money. And if your REALLY that concerned about it then just buy an external cooler and be done with it. Seriously, that is such a lame excuse to avoid buying a console if it has games you really want to play.

RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By zombiexl on 9/28/2007 7:33:10 AM , Rating: 5
Actually you are uninformed (or under informed).

I recently had my second one replaced (with a refurb, not a new console). Guess what my DLC doesnt work under any other account on that machine. Also if I dont log into live I cant use it.

This includes arcade games, media and more importantly oblivion content thats i've shelled out over $50 for.

MS has told me they woudl fix the problem, by moving my DLC registration to the new console serial. Guess what its been 2 weeks and they still havent. They were also supposed to call me back within 48 hours and never did.

I love my 360, but this is a major issue IMHO.

By Aikouka on 9/28/2007 8:15:47 AM , Rating: 2
Just to help clarify, when you download DLC off XBOX Live, the content is registered (DRM'ized) in two ways:

1) It's set to your current console.
2) It's set to the currently active XBL account.

If both of these go away, the DLC is rendered useless. If 1 goes away, as the user reported, you must be logged into that XBL account to use the content.

This is one of the reasons why I won't buy a new console.... I mean, I already have a 360 Premium, but I like my console to be black (matches the rest). Unfortunately, it's not worth the hassle to do so :(.

By misterk2dt on 9/29/2007 9:26:17 PM , Rating: 2
My wife couldn't access any of the DLC (Live Arcade games) on a replacement console with her XBL account until I redownloaded the content to my original HD. It actually didn't download the entire content but just updated the console link - after I did this all the DLC was relinked to the replacement console and we haven't had any problems. I wouldn't wait for a call from MS - I've found they aren't very responsive.

RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By daBKLYNdoorman on 9/28/2007 8:52:57 AM , Rating: 5
Yes, you are correct that people don't lose money by sending their console to Microsoft for repair, but thats not the problem. The problem for most users is the amount of time and stress that it takes to send the console to Microsoft for repairs.
I don't know about you, but when I buy a product, I expect it to perform perfectly well. Its okay if new products that have hit the market recently break, but products that have been on store shelves for more than a year? Come on... And why should I buy a cooler? If it's something that is required in order to keep your system alive, then it should be included by the manufacturer.

RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By mdogs444 on 9/28/07, Rating: -1
RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By MrPickins on 9/28/2007 12:09:36 PM , Rating: 3
Your analogy is flawed.

If the a company in the automotive industry had a product with the defect rate of the 360, it would have been recalled.

RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By MrPickins on 9/28/07, Rating: -1
RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By mdogs444 on 9/28/07, Rating: -1
RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By MrPickins on 9/28/2007 2:44:05 PM , Rating: 2
The difference is that with a recall they offer fix your item before it breaks.

RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By bozilla on 9/28/2007 8:17:56 PM , Rating: 2
eh? Did you even own a car? I mean are you for real?

I own 2 Audis for of my Audis is A6 2005 model. The car had a known issue about the start/stop engine button. Mine didn't. I went to a dealership and asked them to fix it as it was noted it's clearly a problem.

They said, if it breaks, we'll fix it, otherwise we'll have to charge you for replacement.

Btw, this is same practice with all manufacturers, unless the problem might bring you a risk of harm.

Get real, Xbox 360 problem is not a huge pain. If it happens to me, I'll go get a new console and wait for my repair to go through, then I'll return the console I bought. Simple as that.

Second, someone who said that your content is tied to you Xbox 360 is a complete lie.

Your content is connected to you XBox Live account and your harddrive. This is why when you upgrade the hard drive, you can't use the old one on the same console.

So when you sent your stuff in, you should not have problems getting anything you downloaded or bought to play.

By gus6464 on 9/30/2007 8:35:25 PM , Rating: 2
My wife has an 06 Jetta. It only has like 30k miles and the transmission is already acting flaky. Think it's time we look into the new Camry.

RE: Maybe if theyd release a 65nm one...
By zombiexl on 9/28/2007 10:39:31 AM , Rating: 1
The use of the cooler actually will void your warrenty. There have been many post about this in the XBOX support forums.

Basically if you use one and dont tell them you should be OK as long as it didnt cause the damage (fire, etc).

By darkangelism on 9/28/2007 2:11:48 PM , Rating: 2
Well they have a new cooler, so the RROD is much harder to get on new consoles

By pheffern on 9/28/2007 3:05:34 PM , Rating: 2
My XBox RROD'd in February, about two months after I had it. I found the exchange process almost completely painless. I had a replacement, which has worked flawlessly, back in a little over a week.

Some people have had worse experiences, but this seems to be a pretty common account of the response.

I don't view the possibility of an RROD failure as a viable sole reason to decide against buying the console, and I think you're lying to yourself if you claim it is - other factors play a part in your decision, i.e. games selection, cost, ideology.

The coolers do nothing. Some people with them have had no RROD, some people have had one, some people have had several.

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