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Intel's Extreme Edition "Yorkfield" processor will launch on November 12; sub-3.0 GHz variants will launch in the first half of January 2008

Intel’s latest roadmap reveals upcoming additions to its desktop processor lineup. Unfortunately, anybody awaiting a straightforward naming convention will need to hold out a bit longer as the processor numbers for desktop Yorkfield and Wolfdale chips complicate the naming situation even further.

The launch of an Extreme Edition version of a chip before mainstream offerings follows Intel’s modus operandi, and as such the rest of the Penryn family will not be seen until the first half of January 2008. The company ambiguously names January 2nd through 20th as the slated launch date for the processors, though companies generally tend to time launch events with trade shows.  The 2008 International Consumer Electronics Show starts on January 7, 2008.

Yorkfield Quad-Core Desktop - 1333 MHz FSB

Model
Core
Frequency
TDP
L2 Cache
Launch Price

QX96503.0 GHz 130W
12MB
$999

Q9950
2.83 GHz 95W
12MB
$530
Q9450
2.66 GHz 95W
12MB
$316
Q9300
2.50 GHz 95W
6MB
$266

The first of the new desktop processors, the quad-core Yorkfield-based QX9650, will be released on November 12 at an expected price of $999. The operating frequency of Intel's highest end 45nm quad-core at launch will be 3.0 GHz.

Desktop Penryn processors will not launch with the 1600 MHz front-side bus.  Intel's halo enthusiast Skulltrail V8 platform uses 1600 MHz workstation processors on a server-class motherboard and chipset.

The Intel Q9550, Q9450 and Q9300 will be the first of the mainstream Yorkfield offerings. At $266, the 45nm 2.50 GHz Q9300 replaces the 65nm 2.4 GHz Q6600.

Wolfdale Dual-Core Desktop - 1333 MHz FSB

Model
Core
Frequency
TDP
L2 Cache
Launch Price

E85003.16 GHz 65W6MB
$266

E84003.00 GHz 65W6MB
$183
E8200
2.66 GHz 65W6MB
N/A


Intel guidance also suggests an intermediate SKU between E8400 and E8200, aptly named the E8300. This processor will eventually replace the 2.83 GHz dual-core processor previously named E8200.  Since the E8300 and E8200 specifications are not set in stone, neither is the final pricing.  Intel's lowest price-point for dual-core 65nm is $163, and it's safe to wager that the E8300 or E8200 will also carry the same pricing.

Before Intel's media-blitz on November 12, the company will silently launch the 65nm 2.4 GHz dual-core E4600 Conroe processor on October 21, 2007.


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RE: I Can't...
By Martimus on 9/28/2007 9:32:17 AM , Rating: 2
What made you decide to get the Sony DVD burner? I am trying to decide what burner to get for my roommate, and my old stalward Plextor has really let me down the last time I went with them, but I am wary of Sony after many bad past experiences.

Also, why the Enermax Infinity 650W PSU at $170, when you can get a PC P&C 750W for the same price? I have had too much trouble using lesser power supplies, that I am done trying to find value in the area. I'll just go with the best quality one, and it is the same price as the one you picked.


RE: I Can't...
By Quiescent on 9/28/2007 10:44:47 AM , Rating: 1
The person was using AutoCAD 3D for mapping out mines. He didn't really need a nice DVD burner. Perhaps at the time (This system was bought to build about 2 months ago) it was different. However, you shouldn't buy a powersupply that is in excess of wattage unless you plan on doing any upgrades and stuff like that. If you go to newegg.com and look at the specification of videocards, it will tell you the minimum wattage it needs from a powersupply. It said 450w for my videocard, however I have a 430w powersupply. I always newegg for that reason because it's the only place I've seen to show the minimum wattage needed for those. You can just kind of figure out if you need anymore than that by what else you have.


RE: I Can't...
By tspinning on 9/28/2007 11:37:05 AM , Rating: 1
Not trying to start the ole' PS packaging spec issue, but my best resource for power supply info of late has been [H]ard OCP. These guys test power supplies like they should be tested, provide real results, and put great shame to most manufactures who downright lie on the boxes.

anyway check em' out!
http://www.hardocp.com/

All their reviews are no bullshit which is great, even if the item comes from a manufacture who advertises on their main page, if the item doesn't live up to the expectations or stats on the box, they are dunzo

made me think twice, thrice and forth about going with anything they haven't tested and given a good review after I saw what happened in their amazing review of budget power supplies, again take a min and check it out!!

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMzOSwsLG...


RE: I Can't...
By deeznuts on 9/28/2007 12:07:40 PM , Rating: 2
Sony DVD burners are repackaged/relabeled right? I forget which manufacturer, they're not bad though.

But before Hardocp started reviewing PSU's, Jonnyguru and Xtremesystem forums are what I used. XS forums have a forum just for PSUs. Hardocp likes to do something done already, and then proclaim they are the best since they are the first to think of it!

http://www.jonnyguru.com/ - I believe Jonny just retired though, which sucks. But I thought I read his site will go on, I'm not sure. Anyways I ended up with the Corsair 620, excellent PSU.


RE: I Can't...
By Oregonian2 on 9/28/2007 3:08:06 PM , Rating: 2
Recently Sony and NEC joined in a joint venture for DVD burner drives.

I recently gave up on my beloved Plextor too, they seem to have given up the high end market and 8-MB buffers.

Picked a Pioneer 112D one. Seems to be working well.


RE: I Can't...
By mikeyD95125 on 9/28/2007 6:40:48 PM , Rating: 2
I believe LiteOn OEM's for Sony.


RE: I Can't...
By Quiescent on 9/28/2007 7:13:26 PM , Rating: 1
Pretty funny. LiteOns are the ones that a person I know uses. With that, a 10k rpm harddrive, and a dual core processor, they can burn DVDs in a matter of 4 minutes. And they do this about 5-30 times every day. With this, they've had these DVD burners for two years.


RE: I Can't...
By InsaneScientist on 9/28/2007 10:52:18 PM , Rating: 2
It is LiteOn :)

I've been absolutely amazed by the quality of their drives...
I've got a computer in my home that's about 6 years old at this point... it normally has 3 drives in it, I've replaced 2 of them several times, and the 3rd one is an old 12x10x32x LiteOn CD-RW that won't die... I actually kinda want it to die now so I have an excuse to upgrade it to a DVD burner, but it won't go away. :D

Now when I buy optical drives, I won't go with anyone else. :)


RE: I Can't...
By MaK2000 on 9/28/2007 11:47:59 AM , Rating: 2
I have all Sony DVD drives in my home. Comes out to 3 Sony DVD Burners and 4 DVD ROMs. I haven't had a single one go down on me. The first 16x burner I got was $280 a few years ago and it still works. Nothing more than a lens cleaning every once in a while. I think DVD drives are to the point that it is very easy technology to make for very low cost. Anything should be fine.


RE: I Can't...
By Martimus on 9/28/2007 12:28:30 PM , Rating: 2
I disagree with your stance on Power Supplies, but then I used to design them (Although for microcontrollers, not computers). I had one power supply kill my motherboard (it was kind of cool to see the black smoke come out of the back though), and I have had nothing but problems when I try to add a third HD to any of my computers. Most PSU's just don't have enough power on the 12V rail to support enough optical and magnetic drives. If you throw in a new HD because your old one is full or making noise, and you want to transfer the data over, it is a crapshoot whether you can get the drives to work properly. PSU's aren't the only culprit, but it is an easy one to fix.


RE: I Can't...
By calyth on 9/28/2007 1:25:08 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you on the sentiments on the power supplies (i.e. I disagree also with Martimus' parent post).

It's always good to have the extra power, because although newer power supplies are less shady, older power supplies of unknown/shady/curious origins have blown plenty of computers. We have an super-old instrument computer with a dual P3 on an Abit board, with a power supply that I've seen blown before. After one weekend, someone reported the instrument computer won't boot, and when I touched the casing, the power supply was excessively warm. When I opened it up, I found the ATX cable charred and the video card has a large charred spot. I think the layered PCB on the video card curled apart at the charred spot.

Even if that isn't exactly a PSU failure, I've personally seen enough computers die with shady power supplies, even though there was no real reason why the computer would overload the PSU. My old Enermax 450W, which served me from my Duron 700 days to an AthlonXP 2500+, died rather gracefully with the 12v falling out of spec, instead of being blown and billowing smoke.

Power supplies, cases, and heatsinks are often-overlooked parts when people build their computers.


RE: I Can't...
By Martimus on 9/28/2007 2:32:18 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure what you disagree with about my parent post. I didn't think that I contradicted it with the post you agreed with. I was wondering what I said that you disagree with?

Enermax may have a very good PSU, but I don't know as I have never had one. That was why I asked why it was chosen. I wanted to know the quality of such a PSU. She answered without mentioning the quality, so I still don't know. That was the same question about the Sony burner. I really just wanted to know if that model had better quality than my previous cd drives by Sony (those were quite a while ago, when I thought that Sony would have high quality. They managed to prove me wrong, and I have since learned not to trust reputations, because they are not always earned.) The last burner I bought was a Plextor 18X burner, but it has since died on me. It may be under warantee as I bought it not long ago, but I don't want to replace it with another of the same model. I have found little on DVD Burner reviews, so I was hoping to get some light shed on a good model burner to get.


RE: I Can't...
By JonnyDough on 9/29/07, Rating: -1
RE: I Can't...
By tjr508 on 9/28/2007 12:08:15 PM , Rating: 2
I will never buy a sony optical drive. My Sony DVD burner crapped out on me and needed a firmware update to be fixed. Turns out a thousand other people had the same problem but Sony wouldn't write an update for it. Luckily some research showed that Lite-On made the drive and since they care about their customers, they made an update. The process then involved flashing the drive name to Lite-on so it would take the update.


RE: I Can't...
By Quiescent on 9/28/2007 1:23:18 PM , Rating: 2
My DVD burner is pretty nice. It's not decent. It's a LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S. The ones that I have shown else where is LH-20A1S OEM BK and the LH-20A1L-05. You can google these model numbers to get more information on them.


RE: I Can't...
By tjr508 on 9/28/2007 10:14:14 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, I will not even think twice about Lite-On, they have great support. It just kills me that sony wouldn't support a two-year-old product that had a very common defect. I had to use some "hacking" tool to make my computer think my drive was a Lite-On branded drive just so I could flash it with the Lite-On software. It works great now, but it was a tremendous ammount of work and should have only taken 5 minutes max if sony would actually support their hardware. I mean how hard is it to release a fix for a very common problem when Lite-On already did all the work in creating the fix?


RE: I Can't...
By calyth on 9/28/2007 1:28:28 PM , Rating: 2
There are lots of reviews out there for PSUs. My old Enermax work well, and failed rather gracefully. I have an Antec that never gave me a problem. Leave yourself some extra room for the power couldn't hurt your computer.

I wouldn't know a thing about Sony burners, cause I don't really go for anything Sony anymore. I wouldn't touch LG burners though. I've 2 of them fail excessively quickly.


RE: I Can't...
By Martimus on 9/28/2007 2:40:44 PM , Rating: 2
My Antec Tru-Power 450 was the one that destroyed my MB, about 5 years ago. I got it after a good review on Fingsquad, and it failed within 2-3 months. I even went through looking for shorts or sources of failures, and found none. (At that time I worked at Delphi, and I regularly did system fault analysis on electronic boards, so I was pretty good at it.) I finally concluded that the Power Supply just died. I think I had a somewhat dirty electrical signal in my apartment at the time, so that may have been why it happened.

I didn't really learn my lesson though, as I bought another Antec Power supply after that; although I bought the higher model "Neo-Power". It has given me problems when I have too many drives attached. It may be a MB problem as well, but I am not sure. The next PSU I buy will be a PC Power and Cooling though, even though they are expensive. I have never heard anything but fantastic things about their quality, so I will try it out myself.


RE: I Can't...
By jonmcc33 on 9/28/2007 11:47:22 PM , Rating: 2
Why are you going to buy a 750W PSU when you'll never use that much power anyway?


RE: I Can't...
By Martimus on 9/30/2007 10:10:45 PM , Rating: 2
I remember when people would say "Why are you buying a 300W power supply when you will never use that much power anyway?" Or "Why get a 1GB hard drive when you will never be able to fill up half that much?" Really, why would you want anything like those? The truth is, that I found I need more power to support future additions. Especially for new drives.


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