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Apple does the unthinkable with the iPhone

Do you hear that sound? It's the sound of thousands of iPhone customers crying their hearts out. In addition to the new iPods, ringtones for the iPhone and iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store, Apple has announced a price cut for the iPhone.

Apple has dropped the 4GB model from the iPhone lineup. Its sales have been lagging behind the more spacious 8GB model so Apple decided to remove the dead weight. In addition, Apple has cut the price of the 8GB iPhone by $200 – the device will now retail for $399.

This move by Apple even undercuts the pricing for refurbished iPhones that was announced in late August. Refurbished 4GB and 8GB iPhones were listed on the Apple Store for $399 and $499 respectively.

Apple is being quite aggressive with its iPhone and the $200 price cut leaves room for a 16GB model on the high end in the future. Considering that the iPhone-esque iPod touch comes in a 16GB model, the move is inevitable.

Update 9/5/2007:
Although Apple is discontinuing the 4GB iPhone, that isn't stopping the company from offering it for $299 at the Apple Store until the supply is exhausted.


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Wow
By Ard on 9/5/2007 2:41:01 PM , Rating: 4
Damn, talk about slashing prices. Guess it wasn't selling as well as they hoped. Cut the price a little more and get rid of crappy ass AT&T and maybe I'll consider one. Actually, just get rid of AT&T.




RE: Wow
By FITCamaro on 9/5/2007 2:43:25 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously. While I still doubt I'd get one, its a far better deal now. But no way in hell would I go to AT&Ts service.


RE: Wow
By Polynikes on 9/6/2007 7:50:51 AM , Rating: 2
I'm still waiting for them to iron out the bugs. Nothing like paying hundreds of dollars for a piece of hardware whose screen becomes unresponsive in some spots.


RE: Wow
By hiscross on 9/5/2007 2:59:22 PM , Rating: 1
How do you know or guess the iPhone is selling well? How about the more it sells, the cheaper it cost to make, thus lower prices. The iPod prices have dropped each year of it's existance because of volume sales.


RE: Wow
By darkpaw on 9/5/2007 3:29:51 PM , Rating: 5
Apple NEVER cuts their prices just because its cheaper to build something. Their prices pretty much always persist over the life of a product, until it is replaced by a new version. I'd be much more willing to bet that sales have been rather lackluster after the initial wave of isheep and the usual "gotta have it cause its cool" people bought theirs.


RE: Wow
By ChristopherO on 9/5/2007 3:49:49 PM , Rating: 5
Simple. Steve Jobs would be run out of office by the other stock holders if it were selling well and he cut the price. A company will never, ever, cut price, for any reason, if their sales are doing well.

Case in point, Apple stock fell 5% today because the market took it as a sign that the device wasn't selling enough to justify the hype. As a result they punished Apple stock to the tune of 7 billion dollars.


RE: Wow
By akugami on 9/5/2007 4:06:59 PM , Rating: 2
Well...volume sales does decrease cost and in as competitive a market as phones and smart phones, you would want to decrease the price of your phones as much as possible. And volume sales in this case is likely for the touchscreen and similar electronics such as that used to run the touchscreen and wifi between the iPhone and new touch iPod.

There are definitely sound business reasons to cut the iPhones cost. Reduced price being a better sell for one thing. Another is to get the jump on your competitors and price it at such a cut throat profit margin that others can't compete while your higher volume sales gives you volume savings that makes the difference between profit and loss. Heck, it'd be better if they could get it down to $200. Then I believe it'd really take off. As it is, it's doing well for a smart phone but probably not that good as a phone.

And if you recall some guy called Rockefeller, he priced his product to such an insanely low price that he was the only game in town. Then he jacked up the price till no one could afford his product. Of course, that's when the government stepped in but that's a different story.

I thought Apple's stock was inflated anyways so it dropping down 5% is not a huge deal except to those directly involved with Apple stock (of which I am not one). Apple's stock holders can swallow a stock price drop if they feel that there is a clear and sound strategy to profit for the company and thus for them.


RE: Wow
By hiscross on 9/5/2007 4:29:56 PM , Rating: 2
Check this out and then tell me more how Apple would never reduce their prices:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33663/145/


RE: Wow
By ChristopherO on 9/5/2007 5:17:16 PM , Rating: 3
They never would drop the price if it were selling up to expectations. That's a universal constant of economics. Like the speed of light, the ratio of pi, etc.

The device was released in *late* June. The July numbers were front-loaded and almost entirely represented the die-hard fans that wanted one. The monthly numbers don't represent normal purchases. The price cut can only be seen as a panic move because the later July and August numbers more than likely cratered (we'll need to wait till the quarterly reports).

Put in perspective, that would have been like Microsoft cutting the price of the 360 down to $250 by mid-January 2006. Obviously that would be a very bad thing... A company *never* does that when selling well. Even worse, they will have just succeeded in royally ticking-off people who bought the device in the last 60 days (i.e. since launch). More than likely Apple/AT&T will need to apologize to those users with a rebate or else risk negative back-lash (anyone who purchased within the last 14-30 days can demand a rebate since many states allow you to cancel without penalty early in a contract).


RE: Wow
By miccla on 9/5/2007 5:40:48 PM , Rating: 1
companys do sometimes cut prices even if the product is selling well to try and completely stamp out their competition...or incoming competition into the market.
Also apple have room to cut prices as they sell the iphone above "estimated" production costs unlike the xbox which was sold at a loss


RE: Wow
By rklaver on 9/5/2007 5:53:04 PM , Rating: 3
also not to mention, supposedly Apple still gets a cut for every AT&T iPhone plan sold. So a new influx of customers to AT&T still means cash flow.


RE: Wow
By ChristopherO on 9/5/2007 6:05:21 PM , Rating: 3
The big difference is they told investors they were planning on selling 10 million in the first year at a price point of $499-599.

They haven't revised their volume estimates. They would have made a public announcement had they expected better numbers thus preventing their share price from dropping almost 6% (when including after-hours). The basic rule of politics applies, no news = bad, good news is almost always shared (and will be if there is a need to revise price).

Thus they didn't accomplish anything except meet their own volume expectations, albeit while setting a price where they will make a lot less money... There is no economic positive from this news. Perhaps consumers might rejoice, but this doesn't change the fact that the share price was bid up to reflect much higher anticipated revenue.

There is no released competition against this device. It might sound logical, but alas no company will lower their price preemptively. You can deliberately make the market less profitable to avoid competition, but that only works against start-ups. Their competitors are deeply capitalized and that reason will not apply.


RE: Wow
By Oregonian2 on 9/5/2007 6:40:05 PM , Rating: 2
Some of the pundants were saying a million or more sales that first weekend. Jobs said in his speech that the millionth sale will be soon (meaning it hasn't happened yet). Wasn't there a cell phone "record" where 3 million sold the opening weekend or some such? I forget so easily.. :-)


RE: Wow
By Zandros on 9/5/2007 7:06:29 PM , Rating: 1
Didn't they say 10 million for the first full year? No one could have expected them to not do something about prices or a product refresh during a full year and a half, right?


RE: Wow
By ChristopherO on 9/5/2007 10:32:37 PM , Rating: 4
The Xbox 360 held its original price for almost 2 years (selling at a loss has zero relevance since we're talking about a revenue deficiency in relative terms). The original iPods held their price longer since beefed-up models were introduced at similar prices.

Investors could have shrugged off 15% after 8 months (~$100 discount into the slow part of next year). It is safe to assume everyone expected 599 to stick through the holidays.

I just re-read the estimates, according to MacWorld.com the sales figures were 10 million *this* year, not the first 12-months. The big question will be the estimates given during their next quarterly call.


RE: Wow
By Zandros on 9/10/2007 2:13:18 PM , Rating: 2
How about a relevant comparison? Phones drop in price fast.

Anyway, Steve did say 1% marketshare of 1 billion phones sold per year (2006 figures). This amounts to 10 million units, and he said that was their goal for 2008. If they meant fiscal year or solar year, who knows.


RE: Wow
By dagamer34 on 9/5/2007 8:28:25 PM , Rating: 1
Uhh... the really simple reason is that no one is going to buy the iPhone when you've got a 16GB iPod Touch for $100 cheaper than the cheapest iPhone. It does all the cool shit you want (because honestly, most people don't care what their phone looks like) without the mind, boggling tie-down to AT&T.

Anyway, had the iPhone been unlocked to free itself from AT&T, I think that iPhone sales would have skyrocketed anyhow.

As for stock market advice, for those that have no stock in Apple, you buy when shares are DOWN. Lord only knows what will happen when people find out that there's an iPod with Wi-Fi built-in. Expect sales to go up, up, up when people have a reason to replace their current iPods for something pretty cool and new.


RE: Wow
By rushfan2006 on 9/5/2007 4:54:19 PM , Rating: 1
You mean aside from the fact that lowering prices to spur demand is economics 101 stuff that has been a basic fact of business strategy for as long business has been in existence.

Yeah you are right I wonder how people would guess its not selling well.


RE: Wow
By Michael Hoffman on 9/5/2007 5:28:15 PM , Rating: 2
Considering Jobs said Apple is closing in on selling one million iPhones - expected in late September - I don't think the price cut is due to no interest from consumers.

I wonder how much the price cut will help them with the holiday shopping season quickly approaching.


RE: Wow
By retrospooty on 9/5/2007 6:56:49 PM , Rating: 2
Umm... One million was supposed to happen the first weekend of Launch in June. It is now over 2 months later and they still have not hit the 1st weekend's target.


RE: Wow
By Zandros on 9/5/2007 7:07:49 PM , Rating: 2
According to whom? Not Apple, analysts. Sales beat Apple's expectations, but they always do, since they set them so low.


RE: Wow
By retrospooty on 9/5/2007 8:50:14 PM , Rating: 2
"According to whom? " - Steve Jobs in June 2007.

"Sales beat Apple's expectations" Not according to Apple, or wall street. Stock fell 7 1/2 points on the news.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf50...


RE: Wow
By Zandros on 9/10/2007 2:19:41 PM , Rating: 2
Hm. I was certainly under the impression that Apple set its sales goals around 200k units the first weekend. Nowhere near the one million, which even the cited article was for the last of September.

Wall Street data from one day only isn't a particularly good argument, stocks often overreact and is corrected the next day.


RE: Wow
By deeznuts on 9/5/2007 7:27:37 PM , Rating: 2
The iphone was on pace for 720K roughly by the end of September, with Apple's original target of 1M by the end of September.

quote:
But the number of iPhones sold was below the pace needed to meet Apple's target of selling 1 million phones by the end of September, said Greg Sheppard, iSuppli's chief development officer. “It's a pretty darn successful product, but (its sales are) probably lower than what everyone else is expecting it to be,” he said.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070905/n...

You guys are drinking some Apple kool-aid if you think this price drop was for anything but spurring demand because sales have been slower than expected.

Here is another AP article after the drop:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/200709...


RE: Wow
By ghostbuster on 9/5/2007 11:25:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You guys are drinking some Apple kool-aid if you think this price drop was for anything but spurring demand because sales have been slower than expected.


Agreed. When the iPhone launched iSuppli estimated $280 BOM cost for the 8GB model and a healthy ~50% margin.
http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=7308

After the price cut Apple needs to sell two iPhones to make the same profit as for a single iPhone until now, and so the sales must be pretty bleak to justify cutting price by 1/3 in the hope of at least doubling the sales.


RE: Wow
By MADAOO7 on 9/5/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wow
By Ralph The Magician on 9/5/2007 6:11:37 PM , Rating: 2
The price cut really has little to do with Apple. Of that $200, at least half is simply an AT&T subsidy. This happens with every phone. If it starts selling well, the telco(s) start subsidizing like crazy in a bid to get as many subscribers as possible before the next big seller. The goal is to get as many people locked in for as long a period as possible, but their subsidizing budget is fixed so they have to wait and see which products are worth backing.

Now that the iPhone has shown that it has staying power, the price is just going to get lower and lower. Don't be at all surprised by a $299 iPhone come December/January.

You might even see a $99 iPhone before the AT&T/Apple exclusive is up. You might be saying, "But that will kill iPod sales!" Well, yes-and-no. Apple probably has the final say in price, but they also probably don't care. You might buy it for $399 at the store, but Apple is getting $499+. So if AT&T decides to subsidize it even further, and they will, Apple will still get $499—even if they sell it to you for $99. You think Motorola gets $49 well you buy a RAZR? Nope. Look at the unsubsidized price of a RAZR—it's $199-$299+ depending on the model.


RE: Wow
By kkwst2 on 9/5/2007 8:23:54 PM , Rating: 2
What about the part in the contract where AT&T agreed to not subsidize the phone at all. They agree to sell it at the price that Apple sets.

So it happens with every OTHER phone, perhaps. So I would say the price cut has everything to do with Apple


RE: Wow
By Ralph The Magician on 9/5/2007 9:31:09 PM , Rating: 2
Why would you think AT&T doesn't subsidize iPhones?


RE: Wow
By Spotacus on 9/6/2007 1:31:41 AM , Rating: 2
Because you can buy an iPhone from Apple or AT&T for the same price, which suggests that they aren't subsidizing the cost. If Apple wasn't selling them separately, we wouldn't know. Or if Apple sold it for more like the other phone makers like Motorola, then yes it would be subsidized.

But to say
quote:
You might buy it for $399 at the store, but Apple is getting $499+
when that store might be an Apple store, not an AT&T one? Probably not happening.


RE: Wow
By BillyBatson on 9/5/2007 6:53:20 PM , Rating: 2
YUPS! agree 100% the price is now competitive with other phones/devices but they need to drop at&t and go with a real phone service like Verizon or Sprint (which I have)


RE: Wow
By Ralph The Magician on 9/5/2007 6:58:14 PM , Rating: 2
So they have to completely redesign the phone, and lock themselves into the US market?

Verizon/Sprint use CMDA2000/EV-DO.
AT&T uses GSM/UMTS, which is what majority of the rest of the world uses, and has more mature lower-power chipsets.


I can't help but wonder...
By Koder on 9/5/2007 2:59:02 PM , Rating: 2
...about all those early adopters who are reading this news on their iPhone. Suddenly, the value of their investment has decreased by $200.

A price drop so early into the production cycle could hurt the launch sales of future highly anticipated and highly overpriced Apple products.




RE: I can't help but wonder...
By soydios on 9/5/2007 3:25:58 PM , Rating: 2
Talk about early adopter buyer's remorse. I wonder, was that $200 worth two months of use?

If Apple but the 80GB hard drive from the new iPod v6 into an iPhone and released it on the Verizon network, then I would get that when my contract came up for renewal. But 8GB or even 16GB isn't enough storage for me, and Verizon has the best service where I am, along with "In" calling to most of my friends and family.


RE: I can't help but wonder...
By Murst on 9/5/2007 4:24:01 PM , Rating: 2
What type of phone are you using that has more than 16GB of memory?

I have to assume you're talking about the phone, cause I just don't see what an iPod would have to do w/ your verizon contract.


RE: I can't help but wonder...
By h0kiez on 9/5/2007 3:55:46 PM , Rating: 2
Just imagine if you had an iPhone for sale on eBay right now. That would suck.


In related news
By borismkv on 9/5/2007 5:47:17 PM , Rating: 5
Apple has recently announced its plans to institute a "Fanboy tax" of 33% on all new Apple products. Steve Jobs, upon realizing that a large number of people who buy Apple products within the first month of their release are complete and utter tools, has decided that it is good business to charge more for those people who have a need to appear hip as soon as humanly possible. Rumor has it that this tax was created as a result of a bet between Mr. Jobs and Bill Gates.




Still won't make me switch...
By therealnickdanger on 9/5/2007 2:34:35 PM , Rating: 2
... but it is priced MUCH better. I wonder if HTC's barrage of touch-based phones are to thank? Nice work, Apple! Update a couple of its features and release a v2.0 with Sprint compatibility and I may just jump on it!




By phaxmohdem on 9/5/2007 3:19:42 PM , Rating: 1
Sprint FTW, sadly, Apple and AT&T are butt buddies for a couple years before the rest of the world with decent providers get a whack at the device... By then I'm guessing there will be some serious competition to iPhone... or its chic factor will die out significantly a-la the Razr craze.


WOW!
By JackBurton on 9/5/2007 2:36:51 PM , Rating: 2
WOW! Very nice move Apple!!!




Apple Cuts Price This Early
By IcY18 on 9/5/2007 2:38:35 PM , Rating: 2
Who'd a Thunk It.




iPhone Reality/Sanity Check
By TomZ on 9/5/2007 4:36:25 PM , Rating: 2
I thought this review of the iPhone was pretty spot-on:

http://www.shellypalmerblog.com/?p=476

Usual disclaimers: I'm not affiliated, etc.




Interesting
By pauldovi on 9/5/2007 4:52:13 PM , Rating: 2
As a larger critic of the iphone, I have to say that this makes it a better deal. Being on a university campus where Wifi is almost always available, the iPhone seems more attractive. Only things holding me back from considering a iPhone:

1. No 3G
2. AT&T
3. No support for removable media (not as big of a deal)




Cool
By BruceLeet on 9/5/2007 6:24:07 PM , Rating: 2
Now maybe all the people who wanted one but couldn't afford it can buy one now, I know a cpl people who scoffed at the price when they first came out, I was one but Im very happy with my Nokia N95 and Verizon package :D




By Hacp on 9/6/2007 11:40:07 AM , Rating: 2
For 300 dollars and a 2 year contract, I would expect it to have 3G, and a micro SD slot, and ow ya, maybe a choice in carriers. Yet, at 400, the phone won't have any of that. Its not Apple's fault, not Verizon/Sprint's fault, its not even AT&T's fault, its just free market forces working at its best.




By novacthall on 9/6/2007 3:52:14 PM , Rating: 2
My father purchased an iPhone about two weeks ago and, upon seeing this news, I was curious to know if he could somehow go about getting a retroactive price match. He tells me that he called Apple and since his Apple is fresh, so to speak, they will give him a $200 refund.

If you purchased an iPhone recently, you might want to call the store (or perhaps Apple) to see if there's anything they can do for you. If you fall outside that two week window, Gizmodo is reporting that Apple is giving anyone who bought an iPhone between June 29 and yesterday a $100 "credit rebate", though I'm unsure what that means or how you would redeem it.

source: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone/breaking-apple-o...




By Xed on 9/6/2007 3:52:18 PM , Rating: 2
Didn't see this posted yet, if it was, sorry.

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/




Service fees?
By JonnyDough on 9/5/2007 3:42:14 PM , Rating: 1
With all the complaints I've been reading about the fees for service, I'm wondering if they'll unlock it. If they're not making money on the phone itself, then they're probably over-charging for service.




the silence is actually...
By Quiksel on 9/5/07, Rating: -1
RE: the silence is actually...
By TomZ on 9/5/2007 2:36:00 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
all the iPhone haters passing out. maybe they want one now?

No, thanks. Maybe if they cost $100 with a $100 MIR. There are just too many important features missing.


RE: the silence is actually...
By TomZ on 9/5/2007 4:09:49 PM , Rating: 4
Sorry, I didn't realize this was the Apple love thread. Well, carry on...


RE: the silence is actually...
By SunAngel on 9/5/2007 5:35:33 PM , Rating: 1
Any thread where DailyTech and its' goones make the winner an underdog, I will represent gladly!


RE: the silence is actually...
By Moishe on 9/5/2007 2:41:01 PM , Rating: 1
I'm not surprised, but wasn't expecting the cut so soon... In the end it's still way more than I'd ever pay for a phone.


RE: the silence is actually...
By retrospooty on 9/5/2007 3:27:42 PM , Rating: 2
Yup... Sales must not be as good as planned. Imagine that witha $600 2G phone LOL


RE: the silence is actually...
By TomZ on 9/5/2007 4:33:01 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, that's right. After all, if sales were strong, a company would not cut prices. You only cut prices to stimulate demand.

And I agree with the sentiments expressed by others - if I had paid the old price for an iPhone just a few weeks ago, I'd be pretty annoyed to have a price cut so soon. It's kind of a slap in the face to Apple's customers who are early adopters. Apple may get punished for that when they launch their next product and lots of people hold out for a price cut.


RE: the silence is actually...
By gramboh on 9/5/2007 7:51:40 PM , Rating: 2
My roommate just bought a 4GB refurb last week, apparently Apple is going to give him a $150 credit or something. I forget the price he paid, but I guess it is still within the return window so they'd have to credit him or he'd send it back.


RE: the silence is actually...
By mdogs444 on 9/5/2007 2:42:44 PM , Rating: 2
Its not the apple brand that steers me away. Its the AT&T service. I will not switch to verizon, and to my knowledge, verizon does not use SIM cards (pending on what happens with the iphone hack)

Therefore, i am SOL.


RE: the silence is actually...
By ninjit on 9/5/2007 3:22:46 PM , Rating: 2
A little confused, but I think you meant you already HAVE Verizon service, and don't want to switch TO AT&T.

Anyways, Verizon uses CDMA for it's cell-service, AT&T uses GSM (which requres SIM cards as part of it's spec), that's why you don't see SIM cards on Verizon, and why a simple "hack" won't let you use an iPhone with them.

It will take Apple to rengineer the iPhone (not hard) to produce a CDMA version - much like Motorola has GSM and CDMA versions of their RAZR line.


RE: the silence is actually...
By Anh Huynh on 9/5/2007 2:43:52 PM , Rating: 2
I can't say that I'm not tempted by it....


RE: the silence is actually...
By enlil242 on 9/5/2007 2:48:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I can't say that I'm not tempted by it....


Me neither. I was just thinking of upgrading my treo 650 to a different smartphone. $399 is about average. And now it the software hack to unlock it. I give it a big "Hmmmmmm." Plus it would allow me to sell my 4GB nano! AND with my $150 apple card! A bigger "HMMMMM"


RE: the silence is actually...
By h0kiez on 9/5/2007 3:53:59 PM , Rating: 2
Still not tempted. Sprint service is good in my area and I'm hanging on to my $30 a month SERO plan for as long as I possibly can.


RE: the silence is actually...
By miccla on 9/5/2007 5:44:28 PM , Rating: 1
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8593 with an unlocked iphone you still can ;-)


RE: the silence is actually...
By HopJokey on 9/5/2007 11:18:15 PM , Rating: 2
Too bad Sprint uses CDMA like Verizon...


RE: the silence is actually...
By kelmon on 9/5/2007 2:53:44 PM , Rating: 2
I'm wondering how this will translate to the European markets when it's released over here. The AT&T issue ceases to be a problem but I wonder it we're going to see the equivalent of US launch prices at release or a sensible price to begin with.

Mind you, it doesn't look like it's going to be coming to Belgium yet so I'm going to have to wait.


RE: the silence is actually...
By ninjit on 9/5/2007 3:28:32 PM , Rating: 2
2 things apple needs to fix to do well int he European market:
1. The Price - my brother in the UK gets all the latests phones from Nokia and Sony-Ericsson for free with only 1 year contracts (and no mail-in rebate crap). People over are used to not paying for their phones at all, where as here in the US we've already been conditioned to paying some for blackberries and treos.

2. 3G - HSDPA and other 3G data services have been available in Europe for a while now, and nobody there is going to accept a step-back to the plain old EDGE system.

From the Anandtech article on the iPhone, I gather that 3G radio ICs are both space and power hogs, and this is certainly the reason Apple left them out of the iPhone for now, but they aren't going to sell in the EU as is, it will need to be updated


RE: the silence is actually...
By Zandros on 9/5/2007 7:17:21 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with point 2, but point 1… You really don't think we're getting phones for free? Obviously the monthly fee is increased to also pay for the phone during the period of lock in. Anyway, not all phones are sold like that, the market is very diverse, pay-as-you-go is very common in some countries for example, and unlocked phones are readily available.


RE: the silence is actually...
By kelmon on 9/6/2007 4:20:05 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry but your first point is incorrect in the UK at least. You don't get the latest phones for free unless you have a very expensive contract. Typically you get a reasonable discount on the latest phones but it's a trade off between a higher initial price for the phone or a higher monthly contract rate. Previously I've had to pay between £50-£100 for "the new hotness" in order to get the phone on a monthly contract that is compatible with my relatively low usage.

3G may be a barrier for some people but I don't think that it will be market-wide (not an issue for me since I've never used it). It's going to depend on the implementation but bear this in mind - we don't have AT&T here.


By SpaceRanger on 9/5/2007 3:34:20 PM , Rating: 2
Once they switch carriers from AT&T to Verizon, I might consider it... Until then I hope everyone enjoys their toys.. .


RE: the silence is actually...
By rushfan2006 on 9/5/2007 4:50:31 PM , Rating: 2
Not quite...

The price point for me to get an I phone would literally be somewhere around the $50 point w/ the service plan costing no more than $50 a month tops.

And actually even if those prices were true - I still wouldn't rush out to get one, it would still take me some time to consider.

Why? Because I just don't see it as a practical device I need in my life.

I use a phone to make phone calls. I have a computer for the Internet/Research, I have a HD TV at home to watch movies.

For the folks about to reply with - yeah but what about when you want to do that on the go.....that's just it...I don't.

In over 30 years on the planet not once have I felt the need to watch a music video , movie or whatever "on the go". Its nice when its available, but its not a big impact on me to do without either.

I'm certainly not going to throw hundreds of dollars plust insane monthly subscription rates for something I just think is "nice to have" but will hardly ever use.


RE: the silence is actually...
By Michael Hoffman on 9/5/2007 5:29:28 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't mind getting one if AT&T/Cingular now works well in my area...

I am surprised there are so many people who say they won't even consider getting an iPhone until it is ~$100 or less!


RE: the silence is actually...
By TomZ on 9/5/07, Rating: 0
Apple so does not equal Sony
By Daven on 9/5/07, Rating: -1
RE: Apple so does not equal Sony
By Verran on 9/5/2007 3:36:08 PM , Rating: 4
That's a pretty shallow comparison considering that Sony is currently losing a very significant amount on every PS3 while Apple was making a significant amount on iPhones.


RE: Apple so does not equal Sony
By Murst on 9/5/07, Rating: -1
RE: Apple so does not equal Sony
By Daven on 9/5/07, Rating: -1
RE: Apple so does not equal Sony
By acer905 on 9/6/2007 7:27:57 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
very reputable university


Somehow... that just makes me feel skeptical. Exactly what school might this be?


RE: Apple so does not equal Sony
By Daven on 9/6/2007 12:22:13 PM , Rating: 2
Ok, I'll bite. Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, NC. Yes, that's the one Tim Duncan came from, alas.


LOL
By Kromis on 9/5/07, Rating: -1
"Google fired a shot heard 'round the world, and now a second American company has answered the call to defend the rights of the Chinese people." -- Rep. Christopher H. Smith (R-N.J.)














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