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"Zephyr" motherboard with added heatsink  (Source: wonderkins on NeoGAF)

The same 90nm Xenon CPU  (Source: wonderkins on NeoGAF)
New HDMI Xbox 360s are still Zephyr, not Falcon

When it was discovered that standard Xbox 360 Premium packages were coming equipped with HDMI output, the first question on many gamers’ minds is if this new box was indeed the quiet introduction to the much awaited and anticipated shrink to 65nm chips.

One brave soul on hardcore gaming forum NeoGAF decided to help answer that question for everyone and cracked open his new console for educational purposes. It appears those waiting for the 65nm die shrink will have to wait some time longer, as examination of the innards of the Premium box with HDMI reveals the identical “Zephyr” motherboard layout as originally discovered in the Xbox 360 Elite console.

The main differences between the previous Xbox 360 motherboard and the new “Zephyr” are mainly in power supply. As detailed in an earlier article with regards to a dissection of the Xbox 360 Elite, the new motherboard makes use of smaller capacitors arranged in slightly different arrangements. Microsoft has also reduced the amount of MOSFETs installed in the power supply section of the PCB. There are also fewer resistors located above the CPU as well. However, despite the power changes, the die size remains the same as with the HDMI-less Xbox 360.

One notable addition to the new Xbox 360 Premium console is the inclusion of added cooling measures not found in previous iterations of the console. A new heatsink with a heatpipe that leads to a secondary “daughter” heatsink helps to further cool the GPU.

For gamers waiting for an even cooler running box, the next step will have to wait until the arrival of “Falcon,” – the codename for the 65nm Xbox 360 GPU and CPU. Microsoft has not officially confirmed the production of its new, smaller, cooler chips, but industry experts are expecting “Falcon” to land sometime this fall.



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RE: Makes Sense
By Eurasianman on 8/15/2007 9:12:36 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
Supposably you have new 65nm chips showing up in 360 elites manufactured in July


Source???


RE: Makes Sense
By omnicronx on 8/15/2007 9:57:15 AM , Rating: 2
he maybe wrong about the july 65 nm thing, but i think hes right otherwise. MS needs to get rid of the remaining elite motherboards probably to move to 65nm, and the best way to do this is put it in the premium. Should increase sales a tiny bit too.


RE: Makes Sense
By Warder45 on 8/15/2007 10:10:58 AM , Rating: 5
RE: Makes Sense
By omnicronx on 8/15/2007 10:51:07 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yes, but just the Elites. The old stock of Premium and Core consoles have to sell out before we begin to see the new "Falcon" based consoles. The Elite is no different, expect that it is in high demand, unlike the other consoles. I would say you should start to see July manufactured Elites in stores sometime between mid-August and September. As you can see, MS did this just in time for the Halo 3 launch.
it is a forum, but interesting... nobody has taken apart a new elite(and posted about it heh), so it can not be ruled out.


RE: Makes Sense
By R Nilla on 8/15/2007 11:07:20 AM , Rating: 4
I don't understand why people quote forum posts as truth. This is the third place I've seen this forums.xbox thread referenced. The poster may very well be right, but until there is official word or confirmation it's all just speculation.

Gotta love the internet and it's ability to spread misinformation to the masses in a matter of seconds.


RE: Makes Sense
By omnicronx on 8/15/2007 11:24:05 AM , Rating: 3
and thats why the OP used the word 'Supposably' (supposedly should have been said) very carefully. Obviously forum information is not 100% correct, but there could be some truth to it, as i have not seen any articles of people dissecting their brand new Elite's


RE: Makes Sense
By Warder45 on 8/15/2007 12:06:02 PM , Rating: 2
Ah grammar, how I wish I had known thee better.

Anyways, omnicronx is right. Always take a forum post with a grain of salt, but it fits the with what we are seeing.


RE: Makes Sense
By deeznuts on 8/15/2007 12:59:46 PM , Rating: 1
What's funny is this article is based on ... a forum post. Lol.

Sometimes forum posts can be very very informative. Just have to wade through all the bullsheeyat. Inside sources love to post on forums because of the anonymity.


RE: Makes Sense
By deeznuts on 8/15/2007 12:59:48 PM , Rating: 1
What's funny is this article is based on ... a forum post. Lol.

Sometimes forum posts can be very very informative. Just have to wade through all the bullsheeyat. Inside sources love to post on forums because of the anonymity.


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