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Toshiba HD-A35  (Source: AV Watch)
The third time's a charm with Toshiba's HD DVD player lineup

Toshiba isn't standing still when it comes to the development of HD DVD players. The company announced today that it has revamped its entry-level, mid-range and high-end players and that all three will retail for under $500.

"With a majority market share in unit sales of next generation DVD players, consumers are speaking loud and clear, and they are adopting HD DVD as their HD movie format of choice," said Jodi Sally, VP of Marketing for Toshiba's Digital A/V Group. "Because of the proven manufacturing efficiencies of the HD DVD format, Toshiba can bring this level of innovation in technology to a new generation of players with cutting-edge functionality at affordable prices."

The first new model is the entry-level HD-A3. Toshiba didn't divulge many details on the HD-A3 other than the fact that it features 1080i output. The mid-range HD-A30 adds support for 1080p output along with what Toshiba calls "CE-Link" or HDMI-CEC. CE-Link allows for a two-way connection between the HD DVD player and TV over HMDI.

The high-end HD-A35 also features 1080p support and CE-Link, but also adds support for Deep Color over HDMI, 5.1 channel analog audio output and High Bit Rate 7.1 Audio over HDMI.

All three players feature a slimmer exterior design with rounded edges and a high-gloss black finish. According to Toshiba, the third generation players are half as tall as the first generation units.

Toshiba's HD-A30 will be available in September at a price of $399.99. The HD-A3 and HD-A35 will be available in October with price tags of $299.99 and $499.99 respectively.

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RE: pretty silly
By leexgx on 8/6/2007 7:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
i never get an player that does only 1080i (afective 540 half frameing) over an 1080p player that probly supports 1080i as well

Most networks probly use 720p over 1080i (do not think thay can do 1080p to much bandwith)

this web site is an little bit rant (and not been updated for an long time ) but you get the point of 720 > 1080
i have not looked around to see if there any web sites with updated info

RE: pretty silly
By masher2 on 8/6/2007 7:30:12 PM , Rating: 4
> "this web site is an little bit rant (and not been updated for an long time ) but you get the point "

You've misinterpreted the information on the site, which is applicable only to broadcast video. Strictly speaking, its only applicable to broadcast video viewed on non-frame buffering displays. Pre-recorded HD material on disc is a wholly different matter.

RE: pretty silly
By leexgx on 8/6/2007 7:46:36 PM , Rating: 1
i know HD disks content is done only in 1080p but do not see the point in converting an perfect video into interlaced then an hardware/software converter to get rid of the problems that can happen with interlaced all LCD screens are progressive, not sure about plasma but thay are probly progressive as well been digital as it is

id perfer to get an PS3 if i was going to get an HD player in any case as its an 4/6 in 1 unit,
play games,
Folding@home ps3,
media center {when ever thay get it sorted out},
play HD content BD in this case
has an card reader i asume for pics

i been to some ones house ps3 quiet, Xbox 360 Turbo fan jets in there

RE: pretty silly
By MGSsancho on 8/6/2007 8:15:09 PM , Rating: 2
I have Charter Cable, and they give me 480P, 720P, and 1080i depending on the show. movies come in 1080i with DTS, abc gives 1080i DTS, extreme home make over comes in at 720P stereo. most commericals in HD channels are 720P stereo. sometimes a car commercial comes in at 720P DTS. but it switches a lot. credits in movies come in stereo where the movies comes in DTS. 1080i looks fantastic. however its te compression that kills it. like a helicopter scene flying over water. looks horrible

RE: pretty silly
By Guyver on 8/7/2007 10:40:37 AM , Rating: 2
You might want to check and see what EXACTLY they define as 720p and 1080i.

Essentially, they are only taking the vertical line count to legally misrepresent that their product doesn't actually feed you a 1920x1080 interlaced picture. I forget what it is, but let's just say for the sake of argument that it is 1500 x 1080. They say it is 1080i, but if you go and look at the FCC's website 1080i is defined to be 1920 x 1080.

Be careful on how services are marketed to get your hard earned dollar. You're not getting everything you believe you're getting.

RE: pretty silly
By Guyver on 8/7/2007 10:37:50 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, 720p material has more vertical lines than 1080i material if you look at things on a 1/60th time slice.

At 1/30th the time slice and assuming your TV or box properly deinterlaces the 1080i input (meaning the odd and even frames are woven together) then 1080i > 720p (at 1/30th sec).

The problem is most TVs have taken shortcuts on how to properly deinterlace and do 3:2 pulldown.

I recall reading an article last year where a guy was testing this and the ONLY brand to pass both tests unscathed was Pioneer.

Some manufacturers did nothing more than line double each 540 frame to 1080p. Very shady implementation if you ask me.

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