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AMD plans one last "Windsor" based Athlon 64 X2

AMD refuses to kill off its 90nm Windsor core Athlon 64 X2 processors. The Athlon 64 X2 6000+ is AMD’s fastest dual-core performance processor. The processor launched last February to the tune of 3.0 GHz with a 125-watt TDP.

The model continues to stay on AMD’s roadmap throughout the rest of 2007 and half of 2008. AMD plans a refresher for the Athlon 64 X2 6000+. Instead of moving it to the 65nm Brisbane core like many other Athlon 64 X2 models, including the 5200+, 5000+, 4800+, 4400+, 4000+, 3600+ and BE-series, the refreshed X2 6000+ sticks to the Windsor core.

The refreshed model drops the thermal ratings down to 89-watts. Still, the reduced thermal envelope is still 24-watts higher than the highest-clocked Brisbane – the X2 5200+ at 2.7 GHz. However, the thermals match AMD’s upcoming Phenom X2 GP-6800, a Kuma based model slated for Q1’2008.

Despite the impending launch of the Phenom X2 series, the Athlon 64 X2 6000+ remains the only mainstream AMD dual-core desktop processor with a 3.0 GHz clock frequency. The upcoming Phenom X2 series top out around 2.4-to-2.8 GHz when the GP-6800 launches, according to a recent AMD roadmap. AMD does not have any plans to release a 3.0 GHz Barcelona on its roadmap yet.

Expect AMD to release 89-watt Athlon 64 X2 6000+ processors next quarter.


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Not quite..
By zsdersw on 7/31/2007 6:30:45 PM , Rating: 0
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the Athlon 64 X2 6000+ remains the only mainstream dual-core desktop processor with a 3.0 GHz clock-speed.


Incorrect, unless you're only referring to AMD chips, which wasn't specified.

The Core 2 Duo E6850 is also 3GHz.




RE: Not quite..
By caqde on 7/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Not quite..
By kenji4life on 7/31/2007 7:49:59 PM , Rating: 2
The E6850 is still the preferred option for people who don't care about the price difference. It's not mainstream, if you are average Joe, going to bestbuy to buy a computer. But "average" Joe is just that. There are plenty of well off people who will buy the expensive dell XPS with the latest 300 dollar processor, and plenty of enthusiasts who will spend the dough for bragging rights.

But your arguement holds water. I too, don't consider anything that costs 300 dollars mainstream. But then again, I also would not spend 170, if I can get one for 50.


RE: Not quite..
By zsdersw on 7/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Not quite..
By zsdersw on 7/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Not quite..
By ninjaquick on 7/31/07, Rating: 0
RE: Not quite..
By zsdersw on 7/31/2007 9:57:04 PM , Rating: 1
According to you and some others here, perhaps.. but what you and some others on here consider "mainstream" is not the standard by which news articles are written or worded. Ever heard of a thing called "objectivity" in journalism?


RE: Not quite..
By defter on 8/1/2007 2:13:45 AM , Rating: 2
The official price for E6850 is $266.


RE: Not quite..
By ReeZun on 7/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: Not quite..
By rninneman on 7/31/2007 7:51:29 PM , Rating: 4
E6850 - 9 x 333.333333333 (repeating infinitely) = 3000

The E6850 can be had for under $300 all day long.
http://www.pricewatch.com/cpu/core_2_duo_e6850.htm

Why are you people arguing semantics?


RE: Not quite..
By dajeepster on 8/1/2007 12:51:26 AM , Rating: 2
the only problem I have with your post is the "repeating infinitely"... that statement alone isn't possible in todays computers.... we are still constrained by applications and physical limits ... computers do a damn good appoximation of numbers... but they aren't as accurate as your "repeating infinetely" would apply


RE: Not quite..
By dajeepster on 8/1/2007 12:52:55 AM , Rating: 2
**would imply**
an edit function would be nice


RE: Not quite..
By StevoLincolnite on 8/1/2007 1:01:03 AM , Rating: 2
He is correct though, its like the Old Pentium 3 667
It has a 133mhz Front side bus, and a multiplier of 5, which gives 665.
But the bus was never just "133" it was 133.3333333 recurring.
But they only used the last two digits of the 133.3
Now, 133.33 multiplied by 5 gives you 666.65, round that off and you get 667.


RE: Not quite..
By dajeepster on 8/7/2007 8:46:33 PM , Rating: 2
no, he's not correct. I can say anything I want theoretically... doesn't mean its true.
there isn't a piece of test equipment in existance that can measure anything infinite. it's kinda like say that a perpetual motion machine really does exist.


RE: Not quite..
By Lugaidster on 8/1/2007 4:14:05 AM , Rating: 2
Look at it this way (It's not really relevant but still)

1000/3 = 333.333333....

So do this:

9 * 1000 / 3 = 9000 /3 = 3000

Now you don't have constraints.


RE: Not quite..
By Spoelie on 8/1/2007 5:29:26 AM , Rating: 3
It is very much possible, as that number is not held in memory or need to be known/calculated exactly, it's only a physical characteristic that results from circuit design.

Like said above, if have a reference clock of 1000mhz and you only tick for every third tick of the reference clock, you get exactly 333,33333.. mhz. Even though you never have to 'calculate' it or anything.

That's just one way of a multitude of ways to get that exact 333,33..mhz clock.

read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_oscillator


RE: Not quite..
By dajeepster on 8/7/2007 8:41:50 PM , Rating: 2
please don't quote wikipedia to me... i can list 5 engineering books that do a much better job.

please explain to me how you are getting 333,3333.. mhz from every third tick of 1000mhz... i'm assuming its a typo... a bad typo.


RE: Not quite..
By SlyNine on 8/5/2007 3:12:48 PM , Rating: 1
I doubt a X2 6000+ ever lands exactly at 3ghz. they are never THAT accurate.


RE: Not quite..
By Dactyl on 8/1/2007 2:12:15 AM , Rating: 4
What about Pentium D???

Those are super cheap for dual core and they go WAY over 3GHz.

They suck compared to X2, but X2 isn't exactly a beauty queen compared to Conroe.

There is a reason AMD's 3GHz part will be is cheaper than Intel's. It's slower, has less cache, and can't overclock.


RE: Not quite..
By zsdersw on 8/1/2007 7:00:01 AM , Rating: 1
I'm pretty sure the Pentium D has been thrown into the "value" segment, along with Celeron 4xx and Pentium Dual Core E2xxx chips.


RE: Not quite..
By coldpower27 on 8/1/2007 8:00:54 PM , Rating: 1
Thankfully due to your vigilance he fixed the wording, so good job z!!


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