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AMD's next integrated graphics chipset to feature HyperFlash

AMD’s latest roadmap reveals more details of its upcoming next-generation RS780 chipset. AMD plans to target the chipset towards consumer and commercial desktop platforms, with minor differences for each respective segment. AMD designed the RS780 to accommodate its upcoming Socket AM2+ processors with HyperTransport 3.0.

The RS780 sports a new graphics core with AMD’s Universal Video Decoder, or UVD, technology for hardware acceleration of H.264 and VC-1 video formats. The new chipset supports DisplayPort, DVI and HDMI digital video output interfaces. AMD also integrates an audio controller for simultaneous audio and video output over HDMI. The chipset also integrates HDCP support.

Additionally, the chipset supports TV-out, VGA and LVDS outputs. The graphics core also has two independent display controllers for dual independent displays.  The local frame buffer feature will make a return on the RS780, allowing manufacturers to equip the graphics core with dedicated video memory. Users that prefer more 3D graphics power can install an external graphics card via a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot. The RS780 will also have additional PCIe 2.0 lanes for lesser slots.

New to the RS780 platform is the SB700 south bridge. The SB700 does away with all PCIe lanes and only supports PCI, because all PCIe functionality has moved to the north bridge. AMD increases USB support to 12 USB 2.0 ports plus an additional 2 USB 1.1 ports. The new south bridge supports up to six SATA 3.0 Gbps ports with RAID 0, 1 and 10 support. IDE remains a supported feature of the SB700. However, AMD designates the IDE port for double duty – a physical PATA port or for HyperFlash. HyperFlash is AMD’s name for its Intel Turbo Memory competitor.

RS780 for commercial platform has one minor difference compared to the consumer platform. AMD designates a Broadcom BCM5761 managed NIC controller for the commercial platforms. The managed NIC allows for remote management, similar to Intel’s AMT technology. AMD also recommends a TPM 1.2 module for greater security.

Expect AMD to unveil the RS780 sometime next year.


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IDE hate
By sc3252 on 7/30/2007 4:18:45 PM , Rating: 2
Every new motherboard kills my hopes and dreams, mostly because I still have so many IDEA type devices. Do they really have to put in IDE controllers as optional.

I wish all the new motherboards still had two, hell they could cut out floppy port to make room. Forcing an upgrade is what I see them doing with every new motherboard that comes out. First they cut it from two to one, now its optional for one to be on the board. Do they really expect people to upgrade parts that last so long, such as hard drives and dvd drives?




RE: IDE hate
By DeepThought86 on 7/30/2007 4:42:42 PM , Rating: 1
It could be worse. Intel has removed ALL Ide support in ICH9 and ICH8, with the result that every motherboard manufacturer now has to add an extra controller for such a basic function. Even if you're willing to put up with the F6 nonsense when installing you might well find yourself up a creek if your hd dies and your image backup program doesn't have support for the third-party IDE controller (do a search for Acronis SATA problem)!

This is called "progress" by the wise idiots at Intel and now AMD too, as well as the 16-year olds who think SATA is soooo much faster because it has a theoretical 300Mb/s transfer rate.

The same 188t idiot 16-year olds who don't back up their hard drives, so why would they mind if an "it just works" solution has been replaced with something that either needs drivers (AHCI) or which works in PATA emulation mode with the new features (NCQ, 300MB/s) disabled.

I'm just waiting for a bleeding-edge bozo to tell me that Vista works fine (5% installed base)!


RE: IDE hate
By wordsworm on 7/30/2007 9:19:33 PM , Rating: 1
Vista Premium 64 is the best OS I've ever used. It's a matter of time before most people feel the same. Of course, I haven't tried Apple's latest, but I've hated every computer of theirs I've ever tried.

I haven't experienced very many problems yet.

But speaking of IDE. I lost an IDE drive recently by having a student accidentally drop it. It would have been much better to not lose it. It would have been much safer inside the box. Oh well, there goes the $180 200gb hd that had served me so loyally up to that point..


RE: IDE hate
By Redofrac on 7/30/2007 11:42:08 PM , Rating: 5
What, something that doesn't have a horrible bus structure (Should I really need to make sure I put devices on separate channels just so that they don't slow each other down when both accessed?), easy to route cables, hotplugging, NCQ, and so forth? And further criticism because an older OS doesn't automatically have drivers for a newer standard? Yeesh, I wonder what we should still be using if new hardware standards are a no-go.


RE: IDE hate
By DeepThought86 on 7/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: IDE hate
By Redofrac on 7/31/2007 12:32:24 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
How often do you swap drives round that you'd care about the bus structure? Who cares about the bus structure anyway except bozos who're dazzled by buzzwords?


I'm talking about the bus structure in relation to the fact that most boards have two IDE headers. Many computers, even those prebuilt, would include multiple devices per header. Do read up on the fact that the controller can only talk to one drive at a time. Hence there's noticeable slowdown when using both drives heavily on the same cable, especially if one happens to be a CD drive. (Long seek times)

quote:
How often have you used hotplugging? How many people use it in general? A USB enclosure achieves the same thing as well.


USB, while it certainly works, just means another layer of hardware between your drive and the computer. This certainly doesn't simplify things (you seem to be big on this, if I recall), when the drive could just be attached directly (eSATA)

NHQ, I'll admit, isn't particularly useful for most users, and I was just naming additional features off the top of my head that SATA provided above and beyond.

quote:
"An older OS"??? This is precisely the stupid newer-is-better attitude I'm ranting about! 90%+ of the market runs on XP, O lover of shiny new things who can't think critically!


Enough OS ranting, already. By old, I mean it predates SATA adoption. That's all, I'm not implying anything about OS viability, usefulness, etc, or whatever else you may read into it. All I know is that subsequent OSes (Vista, the world outside MS as well) happens to have better support. Keep your Vista ranting elsewhere, please.

And respectfully, I'll pretend there wasn't a thinly veiled insult at the end of your post.


RE: IDE hate
By Meaker10 on 7/31/2007 6:44:46 AM , Rating: 2
Hehe served in everyway Deepthough86, just how old are you? ^-^


RE: IDE hate
By DeepThought86 on 7/31/2007 11:00:34 AM , Rating: 1
Lolz, 0wnzored, zomg, 16-year olds FTW!

Yeah, be happy throwing your old equipment out everytime something shiny and new comes along. Mommy's paying for it so who cares, right? $100 here, $200 there it's all good.


RE: IDE hate
By omnicronx on 7/31/2007 11:35:29 AM , Rating: 3
You are a moron, he just talked circles around you, and you are calling him a 16 year old. He gave you point and proof for every statement he made, all of which is true and makes sense by the way.

I know high school is out right now, but tell your 'mommy' she needs to keep a better eye on you. DT requires a high school education, come back in a few years when you fit the bill.


RE: IDE hate
By lucyphil on 8/1/2007 12:39:06 PM , Rating: 1
What're you talking about? redofrac doesn't even address the problems with XP which is the majority of running systems, or that many modern Intel systems only have 1 PATA controller, which isn't plug and play. Somebody moving a bunch of old drives is out of luck, spending 100's of dollars because the m/b makers saved a few cents.

Who in their right mind would support such a silly state of affairs, regardless of their age? Just because something new comes along doesn't mean it negates the existence of all older hardware investments and OS software. I think the 16 year old jibe is playing on the lack of maturity of this kind of thinking.


RE: IDE hate
By DeepThought86 on 7/31/2007 10:53:17 AM , Rating: 1
It's not just Vista, plenty of Linux kernels that aren't recent don't support SATA.

But why would you support making IDE something non-native i.e requiring a driver, and reducing the number of ports to one or zero??? If anything should be removed it's the floppy port, and keep the 2 PATA ports. Why should PATA be dropped just because SATA comes along. It cuts the chipset manufacturer's costs but it doesn't benefit consumers at all.

With people as gullible as you, manufacturers can prematurely drop support for things to save 50 cents per m/b, while the user shells out $100 for a new drive.


RE: IDE hate
By omnicronx on 7/31/2007 11:39:53 AM , Rating: 2
You should do your homework, Vista does support many sata controllers natively, I have it installed on 3 machines with only sata, and i did not have to press F6 to install. Linux is in the same boat, certain more popular controllers are supported, and actually have been a lot longer than in windows. I currently run Ubuntu, and it also supported my controller.

by the way, each of my computers has a different sata controller.


RE: IDE hate
By Polynikes on 7/31/2007 2:50:02 PM , Rating: 2
That's encouraging to hear. Maybe someday it will be the same with RAID. For once, it'd be nice to not have to bother with drivers during OS installation.


RE: IDE hate
By carl0ski on 7/31/2007 5:38:57 AM , Rating: 2
I don't understand your postering

Seagate and WD have heavily reduced their production of IDE/PATA devices,
they have even started pushing 2'1/2 inch drives. Which simply do not sport a full 40 IDE cable socket.

SATA Optical Drives are freely accessible and affordable.

ICH8/9 and AMD SB700 are for use with brand spanking new processors why would you use a 5+ year old Hard Drive in such a system.

SATA is backwards compatible with generic IDE drivers hense the SATA IDE mode in most System Bios
This feature allows Acronis to boot
Windows XP to install


RE: IDE hate
By lumbergeek on 7/30/2007 5:44:17 PM , Rating: 2
I have plenty of PATA devices too, and I have put them into USB2 external cases and made them portable. It's not a matter of SATA being faster (drive spins at the same speed, making the bandwidth usable only by cache that's not even that fast), but that the SATA cable is so much thinner, easier to route and DOESN"T BLOCK AIRFLOW to the same extent as even rounded PATA cables.


RE: IDE hate
By smitty3268 on 7/30/2007 7:02:39 PM , Rating: 2
That's really the only good solution now. When I did it I was surprised that the speed really didn't seem to be hurt much at all.


RE: IDE hate
By kmmatney on 7/31/2007 12:51:29 AM , Rating: 2
There will be motherboards available that will support IDE, especially cheap-ass boards from ASRock or ECS, so no need to worry.


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