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AMD plans to launch two Phenom X4 and three X2 models within the next three quarters

AMD’s latest roadmap reveals the company’s model numbers for the performance and mainstream Phenom X4 and X2 processors. Despite AMD issuing model numbers, the clock speeds are still ballpark figures and not yet set in stone. AMD has two Phenom X4 and three X2 models planned. Three of the models are set for a Q4’2007 launch.

The Agena-based Phenom X4 processors carry the GP-7xxx model number. There will be two Phenom X4 GP-7xxx processors at launch – the GP-7100 and the GP-7000. AMD plans to clock the Phenom X4 GP-7100 from 2.2-to-2.4 GHz. The Phenom X4 GP-7100 has a 3600 MHz HyperTransport 3.0, or HT3, bus speed. The lesser Phenom X4 GP-7000 has a targeted clock speed between 2.0-to-2.2 GHz and a lesser HT3 bus speed in excess of 3200 MHz. The two quad-core processors will have 89-watt thermal ratings.

AMD plans to launch one Phenom X2 GP-6xxx model by the end of the year. The Phenom X2 GP-6550 joins the Phenom line up next quarter clocked somewhere between 2.0-to-2.4 GHz. The first Phenom X2 to launch has a 3600 MHz HT3 bus speed. This model has a TDP of 65 watts.

Two more Phenom X2 GP-6xxx models will join the lineup in Q1’2008. The Phenom X2 GP-6650 will launch first between 2.2-to-2.6 GHz with a 3600 MHz HT3 bus speed. This model has a 65-watt TDP, similar to the GP-6550. The next Phenom X2 GP-6xxx model to launch is the GP-6800. This model has a higher 89-watt TDP, but still a dual-core processor. AMD aims for a 2.4-to-2.8 GHz clock speed with a 4000 MHz HT3 bus speed.

In Q2’2008, AMD plans to launch one more Stars processor based on the Rana core. This model does not carry the Phenom name because it’s a lower end mainstream processor without L3 cache. The Athlon X2 LS-2350 aims to clock in at 2.0-to-2.2 GHz with a 3200 MHz HT3 bus speed.

The 3.0 GHz Phenom processor that AMD demonstrated last week during its Analyst Day does not appear anywhere in the most recent desktop roadmap.

AMD's latest guidance explains that sample availability for AM2 Phenom will begin in the "September/October" window, with box stock during "November/December." 


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RE: It all makes sense now...
By Treckin on 7/28/2007 2:30:23 AM , Rating: 1
[slap]
Sarcasm in consideration, your still an idiot.
It was obviously a real proc. My speculation is that the thing performs excellent, even with the slower clocks. If you can remember back to Netburst vs Athlon 64/FX... Stop playing the 'my penis(MHZ) is bigger than your penis(MHZ)' analogy in a infinitesimally complex computer world which your small and un-evolved brian is ill-equipped to comprehend.

Raw speed is not what makes a better performer...

[/slap]


RE: It all makes sense now...
By Khato on 7/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: It all makes sense now...
By tkSteveFOX on 7/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: It all makes sense now...
By ultimaone on 7/28/2007 5:40:44 PM , Rating: 1
i'm seeing the higher transport speed like how
currently nvidias video cards have higher shader clock speeds
i think that really hurt the ati cards, having half that speed

but i could be totally off

guess we have to wait and find out
thats half the fun :)


RE: It all makes sense now...
By fake01 on 7/28/2007 7:33:07 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Mmmm, but yes, I am quite suspicious of anything AMD says any more, especially when there's nothing whatsoever to back it up. And really, the contents of the roadmap in this article do nothing to make me believe their presentation. I'd expect that some will use it in an attempt to prove the opposite point - they top out at 2.4GHz this year because that completely dominates anything Intel has to offer. But there tends to be a little flaw in that logic - why sell something that runs at 3GHz for the 2.4GHz price, when you could charge twice as much or more?


I remember reading that barcelona is a good overclocker. I'm not saying AMD did this, but its possible that they overclocked the CPU, maybe to test for stability, maybe to test for performance IDK, all I know is that its a possibility.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By JumpingJack on 7/29/2007 12:25:55 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
I remember reading that barcelona is a good overclocker. I'm not saying AMD did this, but its possible that they overclocked the CPU, maybe to test for stability, maybe to test for performance IDK, all I know is that its a possibility.


You read about that here:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_conte...

This was debunked here:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7291

Fuad was being emailed a bunch of faked screenshots, and statements of performance and clocking claims. The 'overclockability' rumor was more or less a hoax, considering AMD cannot make anything much over 2.0 GHz for launch, it is not likely.... of course, they could work some magic for the Phenom launch and have something really special... but the prior info you are going on is not correct it was indeed falsified.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By fake01 on 7/31/2007 1:05:47 AM , Rating: 1
Just because Phenom is clocked at 2GHz-2.6GHz, and AMD has troubles clocking it higher than 2GHz doesn't mean it won't be a good overclocker. I mean C2D at 2.6GHz can EASILY reach speeds well beyond 3GHz with everything stock, why would Intel release a processor at 2.6GHz when it is capable of so much more?


RE: It all makes sense now...
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 7/28/2007 3:40:52 AM , Rating: 2
To his credit, the image on DT and every other publication was canned -- AMD gave it to media. They did not let media take their own pictures of the demo systems. Nor would they disclose what speeds the demo systems were running at.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By JackPack on 7/28/2007 4:44:37 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, if I'm reading that correctly, that so-called 3 GHz demo was completely worthless.

The demo system could have been running at 1.6 GHz for all we know.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/28/2007 6:09:18 AM , Rating: 1
yes indeed-read my reply to K.K..

A poor P.R. exercise-very amatuer !

Reminds me, way back years ago AMD produced Intel clones !

Now -I know its hard to believe-the chinese have succeeded to produce Intel CPUs clones !-SCHOCKING indeed-I saw one not in pictures/sites etc,but for real.

Believe it or not !-Take it or leave it !


RE: It all makes sense now...
By Spoelie on 7/28/2007 7:12:27 AM , Rating: 2
Euhm produced a cpu with the x86 isa.. yes, very likely.

Produced an exact clone of the conroe chip.. no. For one, outside of Intel, there are VERY few fabs that are able to produce such a chip. In fact, I think only AMD and IBM would be able at this point, with TSMC etc. almost there.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/28/2007 7:45:13 AM , Rating: 1
There is so much contracting & sub contracting work going to China,directly to China or via Taiwan to China.

The chinese have made rapid progress in incorporating new fab technologies/facilities/training local manpower/techniques etc.

The immense proportions for all types of computer components that get produced there in China,you can see it to believe it only by being based there for a period of time & or frequently visit that area.


Ofcourse you got to have those right contacts on the street to get to such things !(clones/pirated stuff etc)

You have to be,like on an intelligence gathering mission to get to sources that work for you,to get you the information.

Their sales outlets is ofcourse based in Hong Kong.

You name it from iPods,iPhone look alikes to anything else they can do it & have it.

Anyway all this was offtopic-just by the way sort of.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/28/2007 8:45:04 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Police in the eastern province of Zhejiang raided a gang making counterfeit Viagra and selling the tablets to 12 countries, including the United States and Holland, it said, adding that a total of 18,000 pills were seized.

In Guangdong, police had arrested 12 people and seized 1 ton of fake drugs and two production lines and large quantities of raw materials for making "sildenafil citrate", the scientific name of Viagra.

Police detained 19 suspects and shut down six factories in May last year for making fake Tamiflu, a bird flu drug, and selling it to the United States via the Internet, the agency said.



http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?typ...


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: It all makes sense now...
By psychobriggsy on 7/31/2007 5:33:08 AM , Rating: 2
Well The Inquirer has debunked your comment completely it seems? Were you actually there?

Full access to the systems (there were two), you could take your own pictures, the side of the case was off for long periods of time, so the bling fans were not required to cool the system ...


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/31/2007 6:17:23 AM , Rating: 1
You seem to be regular reader/visitor to "the Inquirer"-so I ask you this question-Where are they based ? U.K. & or Israel.

See below-copy paste !

By Charlie Demerjian: ??? ????? 31 ???? 2007, 09:02

Note the hebrew text !

by the way are YOU the same person mentioned above behind your current user name ?


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/31/2007 6:41:04 AM , Rating: 1
I dont know why/how- when I wrote this comment-the hebrew text appeared,but when I posted the comment-the hebrew text disappeared, instead you see ???.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/31/2007 7:02:16 AM , Rating: 1
Come on "Charlie Demerjian' you did not commit a crime posting a comment on Dailytech !

Hello Charlie are you there ?


RE: It all makes sense now...
By Reynod on 7/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 7/31/2007 6:46:46 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I didn't see him?


Could you name the site you represent ?-just curious ?

Nice to have Eds & reporters of other sites amongst us !

So be frank !


RE: It all makes sense now...
By BitJunkie on 7/31/2007 3:32:52 PM , Rating: 1
...this thread is almost ugly enough to turn me off anandtech permanently.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By Kim Leo on 8/1/2007 4:19:09 AM , Rating: 2
I agree! I would have voted you up, but i used all my votes voting down the crap comments mostly made by one user..

what annoys me the most, even more than crystal clears immature comments is that on top of everything we see KristopherKubicki telling a down right lie to us all! I usually check Theinq, and Anandtech/Daylitech for news that could be interesting, but now. With the comments plagued by dumb, and Intel fanboy comments, and lies from the people who administrate the site, i'm starting to loose trust in this place, i used to say that Theinq wasn't valid, and mostly gossip, but so far they seem to be the most valid and honest.

I hope this site improves, but i sense that may only be if KristopherKubicki are excluded from Daylitech staff. A lie stays with you!


RE: It all makes sense now...
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 8/1/2007 5:25:56 AM , Rating: 1
I'm the first to admit when I make a mistake. You'll have to keep in mind the information I received was from the day before The Inquirer was there. Sources were checked, AMD PR was brought in the loop and everything operated, at the time, the way I wrote it.

Flat out lie? Please.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By End Of Times on 8/1/2007 5:42:19 AM , Rating: 2
Will you now update your story as it is somehow incorrect?


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 8/1/2007 6:47:20 AM , Rating: 1
This guy & a few more have bad intentions-

1) They want you OUT of Dailytech.

2) They want to brand you a LIAR.

They seem to hate you very much.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By End Of Times on 8/1/07, Rating: -1
RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 8/1/07, Rating: 0
RE: It all makes sense now...
By End Of Times on 8/1/2007 10:10:07 AM , Rating: 2
First your comments were linked to my comments box.

Secondly I’m sorry that you have never met (Dad) K.K.

You seem very experienced with this dual/quad users name stuff.

How do we know that you are not K.K. Dual/Quad Entity?
You certainly jumped right in with boots and all to his rescue with no scepticism taking it all as gospel.

Perhaps a more balanced mentality would serve you well?


By crystal clear on 8/1/2007 10:57:02 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Secondly I’m sorry that you have never met (Dad) K.K.


You do not know how old I am-I certainly do not fall in the age group to call him my dad.( my dad is in his grave)

I am much much older in age to him anyway.

quote:
How do we know that you are not K.K. Dual/Quad Entity?


You can rest be assured I am not K.K.-I am sure he not your type !

Last but not the least your response is disgusting & even more SICK.

Comments like yours are better ignored than respond to-BYE


RE: It all makes sense now...
By crystal clear on 8/1/2007 6:39:09 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
what annoys me the most, even more than crystal clears immature comments i


What annoys you the most is that I tried to expose you guys(editorial staff) from the inquirer,making comments under different usernames here on this site.

You voting me down doesnt change the fact that you & your collegues come here with bad intentions & your hatred for D.T. & K.K. shows your immaturity ,typical school boyish.

If you & your friends are so happy about the inq... then stay there-what are you doing here ?

I have nothing against the inquirer & their staff...

You use this site to express your deep hatred & enemity & jealousy that you have for K.K.!

All your comments & of others(Reynod,phyco...,etc) clearly show that-you want him OUT & BRAND him a LIAR !

Go settle your accounts with him somewhere else !


RE: It all makes sense now...
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 8/1/2007 6:55:51 AM , Rating: 3
What some of these guys don't seem to realize is that I can see when your cookies and IP line up on two different accounts. I let you continue to post here but don't think I'm ignorant to it.

I'm not upset by their criticism. I am surprised that my coverage of the event has triggered the words "fanboy" "conspiracy" and "liar" -- all in the same subject.

Yet still don't see anyone refuting the evidence that the CPU they showed off isn't even on the roadmap. It's fun internet drama, but I suppose there's nothing more pressing to write about at certain publications.


By crystal clear on 8/1/2007 7:40:22 AM , Rating: 2
To summarize on all the thrash putout by these posters & the inquirer article.

All they do is to pick out your comment & few others including mine- spin it around & brand you a liar,with the intention to spoil your reputation in the industry.

Thats it !


RE: It all makes sense now...
By Justin Case on 8/3/2007 2:53:59 AM , Rating: 3
With all due respect, if the information provided by DT is identical to AMD's public roadmaps, what use is DT, exactly? We can get our press releases and marketing blurbs straight from the source.

When you "cover" an event without even attending it, the least you can do is say so in the "article".

I don't think there's any "conspiracy" here. Just poor (and somewhat unethical) reporting.

Say what you will about the Inquirer, but their "news" are actually new, when they "report" something they actually went there, and their kind of "investigation journalism" actually involves some investigation, not just sitting at home waiting for some marketing department to send them a press release.

I can see how that clashes with modern media culture.


By crystal clear on 8/1/2007 8:08:30 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I agree! I would have voted you up, but i used all my votes voting down the crap comments mostly made by one user..


How stupid you are indeed !

The momemt you post a commemt on an article/comment all your votes up/down are invalid !
(that you did before posting)

Unless ofcourse IF you using dual/quad usernames-Who knows!


By James Holden on 8/1/2007 8:24:43 AM , Rating: 2
I don't see what the fuss is about. Calling for KK to resign because AMD lied to him is a bit harsh i think.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By JackBeQuick on 8/1/2007 8:38:17 AM , Rating: 2
My first post here. You've had an account here for 2 years and you haven't picked up that it's not Anandtech anymore?


RE: It all makes sense now...
By BitJunkie on 8/1/2007 9:48:39 AM , Rating: 2
In my mind I still see them as being inextricably linked. If I was Anandtech I wouldn't be best please with being associated with this kind of drama. More importantly and of greater relevance, after 2 years, they still don't have an edit button.

Shoot me.


By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 8/1/2007 10:43:18 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
More importantly and of greater relevance, after 2 years, they still don't have an edit button.

It's like that by design. People tend to write less rubbish once they realize it's in permanent ink.


By James Holden on 8/1/2007 8:27:52 AM , Rating: 2
You know this um, how?

Aren't you the same Reynod from Australia?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/20570-9-what-guy...

Talk about lies, no wonder why you didn't see him. You weren't there either!


RE: It all makes sense now...
By Justin Case on 7/31/2007 5:32:05 PM , Rating: 2
For those who haven't read it:

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41342

This is hardly the first time a "news" (read, press-release propagation) site pretends to cover an event without being anywhere near it, or pretends to be an authoritative source without being even remotely informed (ex., http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7913&... )...


By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 8/1/2007 5:14:41 AM , Rating: 2
My response is here:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8261

I think my comments were well justified.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By General Disturbance on 7/28/07, Rating: -1
RE: It all makes sense now...
By jazkat on 8/1/2007 6:50:03 AM , Rating: 1
well good for you but you wont see a intel cpu in my machine even if it does make my games a few fps faster etc,
i have only had one intel cpu and that will be my last even if penryn cleans my house for me runs my pc and does my shopping, why would you want to support a company thats treated you like s*** for years making you pay loads for a cpu.
you should be thanking amd for giving intel the slap it needed to lower the cpu prices because if they didnt you would be looking at extreme bucks for your intel products,
i cant see the 65nm k10 beating intels 45nm even tho i hate to admit it but i am sure that amd/ibm 45nm collaboration
is when intel gets its second bashing from amd.
maybe 65nm k10 will be enough i suppose we will just have to wait and see, thats all i can say is hope amd dont go cos im sure intel will show its true colors once again and make you pay through the nose.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By JumpingJack on 7/29/2007 12:30:16 AM , Rating: 2
Well, nice slap....

But.....

Performance = Clockspeed X IPC

So, yes, clockspeed does indeed still matter. The higher the clock speed the faster it will perform, pretty simple.

What you are driving at is comparing between architectures where one may have better IPC efficiency over the other... nonetheless, if clockspeed did not make the processor why does AMD keep trying to up the clockspeed?

Becareful who you call an idiot... the term 'idiot' has a specific meaning and it might come back to haunt you.


RE: It all makes sense now...
By bjtag on 7/29/2007 11:11:22 AM , Rating: 3
(Humor)(From the news this week)
you guy better watch what you say or
someone might drive 1300 miles to burn
down your trailer!


RE: It all makes sense now...
By bjtag on 7/29/2007 11:14:43 AM , Rating: 2
(Humor)(From the news this week)
you guys better watch what you say or
someone might drive 1300 miles to burn
down your trailer!


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