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Nintendominates video game hardware sales for June

The sales numbers released by research firm NPD Group for June continue to highlight Nintendo’s current strength in the market. Both the Nintendo DS and Wii lead all of its competitors in terms of software and hardware sales.

The Nintendo DS collected even more sales than during May, moving an amazing 561,900 units. The Wii followed closely behind with 381,800, also slightly up from the previous month.

Nintendo’s near-obsolete Game Boy Advance sold a surprising 109,400 consoles, despite there being no new software released for the handheld.

Sony took sat next in the ladder, with the PSP selling 290,100 and the undying PlayStation 2 at 270,700 units. The PlayStation 3, which was once again the lowest-selling, current-market console, only managed to sell 98,500 units.

Microsoft’s Xbox 360 sold 198,400 units, also up from May’s figures.

Overall, video game hardware sales were up 34 percent for the month as compared to the same period last year – accumulating $398.6 million.



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RE: What are the totals?
By Marcus Yam on 7/24/2007 8:47:39 AM , Rating: 2
I'll try to find the totals, but if things continue the way they are going, the Wii will be the top selling current gen console by next month. Very impressive.


RE: What are the totals?
By h0kiez on 7/24/2007 8:53:25 AM , Rating: 2
I don't doubt that Nintendo will eventually overtake MS, but I thought that they still had a decently long way to go. Next month? Really?


RE: What are the totals?
By Marcus Yam on 7/24/2007 8:56:33 AM , Rating: 2
In terms of worldwide sales, yes, it could be that soon. Of course, this is mostly due to the Wii's domination in Japan, where it passed the 360 long, long ago.

It'll still be another little while before the Wii eclipses the 360 in the U.S. and Europe.


RE: What are the totals?
By jpeyton on 7/24/2007 2:56:09 PM , Rating: 2
Just more proof that the 'casual' gaming market is a lot larger than the 'regular' or 'hardcore' gaming market.

Nintendo is dominating the hardware and software charts in North America and Japan.


RE: What are the totals?
By theapparition on 7/25/2007 9:32:31 AM , Rating: 3
Anyone with a clue knows the hardcore gaming market is only 5% of the market.

That is, everyone has a clue except the hardcore gamers who believe that unless its pushing the limits of hardware/software, it can't be fun.


RE: What are the totals?
By michal1980 on 7/24/07, Rating: -1
RE: What are the totals?
By 3kliksphilip on 7/24/2007 9:09:12 AM , Rating: 2
...Why did you have 2 in the first place?


RE: What are the totals?
By encryptkeeper on 7/24/2007 9:18:07 AM , Rating: 2
michal!! Where you been buddy! Haven't modded, I mean, seen you in a while!

oh and my 2nd wii now will be for sale, just to darn BORING.

So with all your bitching about how boooooooring the Wii is, you bought a SECOND one??? Bullshit. Hell, I still doubt you bought a first one.


RE: What are the totals?
By michal1980 on 7/24/07, Rating: -1
RE: What are the totals?
By aos007 on 7/24/2007 12:33:46 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
but I like some meat on my games.


Very true. Business-wise there is obviously market for games you can learn in 5 minutes, play in 10 minutes increments (typically while you're waiting for something "more important") and leave at any time. To me, if a game doesn't have depth beyond skin-deep and doesn't pull me in emotionally, it's not worth playing in the first place. I can see the point of such games on a portable console but for a home system it's just a waste of money. Obviously the masses buying these consoles disagree. I couldn't care less, except for the fact that these games sell for about the same price but cost FAR LESS to produce. Meaning gaming companies will eventually switch to producing primarily this kind of content (they are a business after all). I hope there's enough of us who care about games left to support the more serious gaming market.


RE: What are the totals?
By gramboh on 7/24/2007 1:55:29 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. My roommate bought a Wii back in December, it was "cool" for a few hours playing around with it in Zelda, Wii sports etc, but I have touched it once since then. I prefer Xbox and PC.


RE: What are the totals?
By aGreenAgent on 7/24/2007 2:43:30 PM , Rating: 2
Where I live, people from all over the neighborhood come over to play my Wii (nobody under 21, though). It's a big competition, and we all get drunk. 5+ hours of Wii Sports every day since the Wii release has been awesome, and will probably continue for quite some time.


RE: What are the totals?
By Miggle on 7/24/2007 9:23:49 PM , Rating: 1
Its not just kids nor about ADD. I myself cannot stay playing a game for too long because I do not have the luxury called time. I can only dedicate short bursts of playtime. If I played Oblivion (which I haven't yet) as thoroughly as most of them "hardcore" gamers, it'll probably take me 6 months to finish.


RE: What are the totals?
By AstroCreep on 7/24/2007 1:13:45 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah, I know - remember how sweet was the motion-sensitive controllers for the Gamecube were?

Oh wait...


RE: What are the totals?
By techfuzz on 7/24/2007 8:59:58 AM , Rating: 2
Marcus,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#System_sales

8.6+ million and counting, but that data is somewhat out of date and most certainly doesn't include the most recent half million sold.


RE: What are the totals?
By jmke on 7/24/2007 9:04:04 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
the Wii will be the top selling current gen console by next month.


That "next gen" part in your text is pushing it a bit;)


RE: What are the totals?
By encryptkeeper on 7/24/2007 9:33:49 AM , Rating: 5
What part of "next gen" do you not get? Is there a certain threshold that MUST be crossed before a new console can be considered next gen? If there is, please tell me, because the Wii is worlds ahead of the Cube. I'm tired of this lame argument, and I want a real answer, even though I think it's just sour grapes from the Nintendo haters, angry that a little console could come out of nowhere and look like it'll eventually take over as the dominant home console for this generation. So, how much more powerful does it have to be? 3 times more? 4 times more?


RE: What are the totals?
By michal1980 on 7/24/07, Rating: -1
RE: What are the totals?
By artemicion on 7/24/2007 11:23:49 AM , Rating: 2
geez, some people live and die by the transistor count in their consoles . . .

But I do appreciate how on one hand you want people to think you're a super-sophisticated gamer that needs games with "depth" and "meat my games" while simultaneously making the definitive aspect of a next-gen console its graphics.

Sheesh, some people are so close-minded about how the video-game market is going to evolve, insisting each generation must have more graphical horsepower in order to be considered a legitimate successor. Yes, that's one way to build a new console, Sony and MS thought so. Nintendo thought outside the box and decided to concentrate on innovative gameplay instead.

Discounting the Wii's approach to next-gen is like saying "dur, gameboy sucks because the graphics are worse than a console" - without considering the fact that it's PORTABLE.

Even if the approach isn't to your taste (I, from my life/workstyle, have no need for a portable gaming system), it doesn't mean that there is something inherently "wrong" with the system.


RE: What are the totals?
By michal1980 on 7/24/07, Rating: -1
RE: What are the totals?
By artemicion on 7/24/2007 4:03:39 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
name a title that the gamecube could not run?


Wii Sports.

Pretty sure that game would be less fun on a Gamecube. But judging by your pretentiousness, I'm guessing you didn't enjoy the game so much, and are going to retort with a snarky "the graphics would be the same on a Gamecube."

Yeah well, you're right, but without the Wii-mote the experience wouldn't be the same. Frankly, there are dozens of games/consoles out there I don't care for. Like I said previously, I've never felt the need for a gameboy because I don't need to be gaming 24/7 and I can wait 'till I get home to fire my console up. But I don't bash the Gameboy as a "one-trick pony", or regard it as less of a "game console" just because I don't appreciate its strengths.

I mean, whatever, if you care so much about the "next-gen" label, you can go petition to Websters to have it defined precisely the way you want it to, but I'm just gonna tell you now that there's a lot of people out there who are much more open-minded about just exactly what it means to be "next-gen".


RE: What are the totals?
By OblivionMage on 7/24/2007 8:10:40 PM , Rating: 2
You just said that wii sports would be less fun on gamecube, but nothing about it not being able to run on gamecube, so why did you quote him?


RE: What are the totals?
By artemicion on 7/24/2007 9:02:47 PM , Rating: 2
Because it doesn't really "run" on the gamecube if you're losing out on the main gameplay draw.

It's like claiming that Gears of War will "run" on my VCR because I can record gameplay footage of it on a tape and play it back.

It isn't exactly "running" if you're not getting the full gameplay experience, now is it?


RE: What are the totals?
By Kim Leo on 7/25/07, Rating: 0
RE: What are the totals?
By omnicronx on 7/24/2007 3:27:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
geez, some people live and die by the transistor count in their consoles . . .


and some people are in denial about what next gen is..(mainly wii owners, what a surprise!!)
sorry to tell you but the term 'next gen' has been used long before this generation of consoles, when HDTV's were first introduced as 'NEXT GENERATION WITH MUCH BETTER VIDEO QUALITY'

so i do not see what it is so hard to consider that the wii not being HD is not really 'Next Gen'

As previously stated, the wii is an overclocked gamecube, same cpu, same graphics core just increased clock speed, and of course a nice new case and all new controller technology.

So yes it is a totally different way to play, but next gen, i think not. Do not get me wrong i have own a wii, and i love it do death, but in the end clock to clock, its maybe on par with the original xbox and i do not go around to all my friends bragging about my next generation wii console.

then again, the whole next gen fad is just a marketing ploy to get you to buy that nice new fancy tv, and or console ;)


RE: What are the totals?
By artemicion on 7/24/2007 3:58:08 PM , Rating: 5
You know - I was gonna patent my Virtual Reality Gaming Machine that, instead of projecting images on a television, would directly send them to your brain to create the most realistic gaming experience known to man. It also comes with a body suit that simulates tactile feeling in game, as well as special nose plugs that simulate smell.

But it doesn't do 1080p.

Darn.


RE: What are the totals?
By omnicronx on 7/24/2007 4:02:54 PM , Rating: 2
haha best sarcastic answer ever!!
hes totally making fun of me but i must laugh!


RE: What are the totals?
By artemicion on 7/24/2007 4:08:13 PM , Rating: 2
Off-topic, but you know, appreciating the the point-of-view, humor, sarcasm, whatever, of an opponent in a debate is probably one of the most difficult things to do in life. Particularly in an internet forum where internet culture seems to promote stubborn, close-minded, flaming, fan-boy-ism.

Good for you.


RE: What are the totals?
By encryptkeeper on 7/24/2007 11:24:04 AM , Rating: 3
what is a next-gen console? I'll define it for you.

A console is next-gen when its graphics are much better then the previous gen console.


Really? So that's it. No new control schemes, no new ways to interact with the game, no way to download classic content gamers will probably always want to play?

What happens after the next generation of consoles? In 5 more years, consoles will probably be pushed to the limit of realism as far as graphics go. Crysis looks incredible, some screenshots look indistinguishable from some digital picture taken out in the wild. After that, will there be no next generation of consoles? According to you, yes, the videogame industry will have NO new generations of consoles in 10 years. What will they do next? Probably some sort of new interactivity, VR maybe. That's what Nintendo decided to focus on. New interactivity for games for this new generation. Plus more overall power than the Cube. There just haven't been many developers to take advantage of it yet.


RE: What are the totals?
By Hawkido on 7/24/2007 1:36:37 PM , Rating: 1
While I agree with you the Wii is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to write home about as for as it's graphics. They really did NOTHING but bump the GC up a notch or two.

But Nintendo didn't really want to. What they wanted to do, and did quite well (not perfect but this is the first real run of this interface method) was revolutionize the interface of games. They made gaming an athletic activity (Yes, you can cheat and bowl sitting down, but most like to actually perform the action as it is easier and more natural feeling) My wife and I are actually sore after a drunken night playing the neighbor's Wii.

It does seem the Wii caters to more the party crowd (Come over and bring some beer, we have the Wii!) So most of their games will be group activity based. Which is great. I will get a Wii just for the Fun party factor. However I agree my gaming needs are far more indepth. I need a game with some substance. Some "meat on them" as you said. Zelda games have always been a favorite, as have some of the mario games. But i like the main line Final Fantasy games, So it will be Wii and PS3 for me. Xbox360 doesn't have the games I like to play. So, as such, I will be a Blu-Ray movie supporter (more than likely) once i get a PS3.


RE: What are the totals?
By elpresidente2075 on 7/25/2007 1:33:49 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
what is a next-gen console? I'll define it for you.


I'll help you by breaking it down into parts:

Next: Successor, what comes after current.

Gen: Short for generation, in the case of electronics, one hardware revision

Things that qualify as next gen in the current console market: Nothing.

Things that qualified as such until the end of last year: Wii and PS3.

Things commonly referred to as next-gen: Wii, Xbox360, PS3 (in order of importance :P)


RE: What are the totals?
By ET on 7/24/2007 11:32:49 AM , Rating: 2
What I'm not getting about "next" gen is why people use it to describe consoles already on the market, one of them for almost 2 years. When will these consoles become "current gen", as they really are, or will they remain "next gen", and any newer ones be called "next next gen"?


RE: What are the totals?
By Netscorer on 7/24/2007 12:23:39 PM , Rating: 1
In my mind, 'the next gen' gaming console has to satisfy at least these three technical criteria:
- fully support HDTV resolution
- fully support Online gaming for all 'next-gen' releases
- provide full range of Home Media Center functionality

So far, only Xbox 360 (with HD-DVD addon) fully justifies 'next gen' moniker. Sony will be there soon as they will roll out full Online gaming support in the next months. Wii, however, will never be able to satisfy all three criteria (they actually currently do not astisfy any of these criteia), thus Wii is not a 'next gen' in my mind.


RE: What are the totals?
By colonelclaw on 7/24/2007 12:49:03 PM , Rating: 2
for me the Wii is the most next gen of all the current consoles - what nintendo came up with with regards to contoller interface and aiming the product at a whole new audience seals it for me.

next gen shouldnt just be about power, it should be about the thinking behind the product


RE: What are the totals?
By encryptkeeper on 7/24/2007 3:08:57 PM , Rating: 2
Netscorer on July 24, 2007 at 12:23 PM

In my mind, 'the next gen' gaming console has to satisfy at least these three technical criteria:
- fully support HDTV resolution
- fully support Online gaming for all 'next-gen' releases
- provide full range of Home Media Center functionality

So far, only Xbox 360 (with HD-DVD addon) fully justifies 'next gen' moniker. Sony will be there soon as they will roll out full Online gaming support in the next months. Wii, however, will never be able to satisfy all three criteria (they actually currently do not astisfy any of these criteia), thus Wii is not a 'next gen' in my mind.


Thank you, I'm glad there are some people who put thoughts into their posts. While I respectfully disagree that these are the only things that necessitate true 'next gen' I have to admit I'd definitely like more online games for the Wii. Wii Sports would have been great to have online, but I have a feeling they're going to do a Wii Sports 2, with more sports, better graphics and online gameplay. 1080p or 720p doesn't really bug me that much, I still have a tube TV. How many households have an HD set? 10-15%? Media center capability is something that absolutely does not interest me because I have no use for it.

At the same time, people are realizing the next evolution in video games is how you interact with them, not just how pretty they look.


RE: What are the totals?
By omnicronx on 7/24/2007 3:39:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
How many households have an HD set? 10-15%


Depends where you live, 10-15% in the U.S right now maybe, but in Canada that number is dramatically increasing, i would say it is closer to 25-30% of Canadians own at least one HD-Ready tv in their household.

Also keep in mind the 2009 analogue shutoff for television stations in the U.S starts, and only digital OTA HD signals will be available, at that time i would expect the number of households with HD-TVS to increase exponentially from there on in.


RE: What are the totals?
By Netscorer on 7/24/2007 9:08:06 PM , Rating: 2
Thank you for your post. I agree that everyone can have their own idea of the 'next gen'. For me, the three above plus a great line up of the current games were enough to justify buying Xbox 360. PS3 is close behind but does not have many good games and so I will probably reevaluate them in 6-9 months.
I played Wii for 4 weeks and got quickly annoyed with the controls. They are great novelty act and the originals (Wii Sports and Zelda) work with them like a charm, but same controls become awkward and frustrating once you try playing third-party games. Lack of HDTV support(I have a 56" 1080P beauty sitting in my living room) and no online gaming were a killing blow for me.


RE: What are the totals?
By SmokeRngs on 7/24/2007 6:17:48 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
In my mind, 'the next gen' gaming console has to satisfy at least these three technical criteria:
- fully support HDTV resolution
- fully support Online gaming for all 'next-gen' releases
- provide full range of Home Media Center functionality


Very interesting.

There has never been a next gen console before the Xbox360? Everything has been the same since the first ever console made according to your definition.

This is why you cannot use any specific "feature" to ever define what is or is not "next-gen". A definition like this must be generalized. Your definition is completely personal opinion.

None of the current three new consoles are next-gen. They have all been released. Therefore, they are the current generation of consoles.


RE: What are the totals?
By Netscorer on 7/24/2007 8:58:26 PM , Rating: 2
I don't get you. What's not specific about the criteria I named?
Do I have to spell out HDTV resolution to you? Were there any consoles in the market before Xbox 360 and later PS3 that support it? Have you played real HDTV game on a big screen before lashing out here?
Or how about full support for online gaming. Microsoft created a great service that provides a backbone for all game publishing houses to deploy their games for online playing. Again, no console manufacturer till now has put such thought in online gaming support.
And Home Media Center is IMO becoming most crucial feature. Again, Microsoft, for the most part, seems to make it just right. And Sony will be there very very soon and can actually eclipse Xbox 360 due to the inclusion of the Blue-Ray player.
As for the 'next gen' moniker, I feel it is justified because there are two generations of consoles on the market at the same time. PS2 represents the old gen and PS3 and Xbox 360 - new, or 'next' one.
Wii is somewhere in between. They have a great idea for innovative controllers but too few games that take full advantage of them. And their lack of HDTV, online and Media center functionality will make them an afterthought once initial admiration with novelty will fade.


RE: What are the totals?
By SmokeRngs on 7/25/2007 10:45:22 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I don't get you. What's not specific about the criteria I named?


Please re-read my post. I said your criteria is too specific and that is where the problem is. Also, your criteria read like a feature list of the Xbox360 and PS3 which points to having "decided" your criteria for "next gen" after the consoles were released.

As someone else mentioned, next gen actually means nothing more than the next iteration of the console. Xbox->Xbox360, PS2->PS3 and Gamecube->Wii all show examples of successive generations of consoles. Your personal opinion of what you want as a feature has nothing to do with determining what constitutes next gen.

quote:
Do I have to spell out HDTV resolution to you? Were there any consoles in the market before Xbox 360 and later PS3 that support it? Have you played real HDTV game on a big screen before lashing out here?


HD is old news for myself and many others which probably includes you. Technically speaking, I would not be surprised if anything over the resolution of DVD would be considered HD. The defined HD resolutions for TV displays are nothing more than the standards for HD concerning TV screens. Gaming on the computer has been in HD resolution territory for many years now. I also don't care for a big screen TV anyway. Due to dot pitch and other similar things, big screen TVs look terrible unless viewed from a long distance in my opinion.

Consoles making use of HD resolutions, while groundbreaking for consoles, isn't that big of a deal to me. If you would re-read my post, you would understand that the point I tried to make is that according to your definition of next gen console, there was never a previous next gen console. Your definition states that the PS2 was never a next gen console nor was the SuperNES, or the N64 or the Gamecube or any other console that was a successor to a previous console. Technically, being a successive console should not even be a criteria. The original Xbox was a next gen console. Even though it was the first one for Microsoft, it was still released roughly around the time the PS2 was released (if I remember correctly) and therefore, was part of that generation. The generation a console is has more to do with the time of the release than anything.

quote:
Or how about full support for online gaming.


Truthfully, how many people actually care about this? I'll even take percentages. The majority of people don't really care about online gaming that much, especially on a console. There are exceptions concerning certain games, but those games cater more towards the audience which likes online play.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with online play. On certain games it's very important to me. In the future I expect online play will be more important with more people interested in it or as older generations are pushed aside by younger generations.

quote:
And Home Media Center is IMO becoming most crucial feature.


Again, this is just your opinion. I don't have a problem with your opinion but do not try to make your opinion a requirement. The majority of people are content to keep their multimedia uses in the hands of a disc or tape player and don't show any signs of changing soon. I'm not saying people will not move to a media center machine eventually, but the demand really isn't out there right now. I also think more people would prefer a standalone unit to do this rather than a gaming machine. That is just my opinion, though.

quote:
And their lack of HDTV, online and Media center functionality will make them an afterthought once initial admiration with novelty will fade.


When is the novelty going to fade? The Wii has been selling out just about everywhere for 8 months and does not currently show signs of slowing down. How many months must a console lead in sales and for the most part sell out before it's no longer considered a novelty?


RE: What are the totals?
By encryptkeeper on 7/24/2007 9:22:37 AM , Rating: 2
www.nexgenwars.com


RE: What are the totals?
By webdawg77 on 7/24/2007 10:01:44 AM , Rating: 2
Read a little farther down ;).


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