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Honda to introduce a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel by 2010

While many domestic and foreign automakers are looking to hybrid technology to improve fuel efficiency across their auto lines, Honda is looking towards the tried and true: diesel engines.

It was reported last month that the next generation Honda Accord would forgo its slow-selling and poor-performing Accord Hybrid with a diesel variant. The oil-burning Honda Accord will feature a 2.2 liter i-CTDi Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel engine along with an ammonia-filled catalytic converter to reduce NOx emissions.

Honda is also poised to make a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel engine available for its larger vehicles including the Odyssey minivan, Pilot mid-sized SUV and the Ridgeline mid-sized pickup truck. The new Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel will first be available in 2010 according to the Japanese Nikkei newspaper.

The engine is said to be 30 percent more fuel efficient than Honda's current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine (rated at 17/24, 15/20 and 15/20 respectively in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline based on 2008 EPA estimates). The new motor is also said to produce 20 percent less carbon dioxide as the 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine.

Honda's new diesels likely won't come under as much scrutiny for failure to achieve EPA estimates as has been the case with hybrids. Honda knows this first-hand as it recently became the target of a class-action lawsuit regarding poor fuel economy on the Civic Hybrid.

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By Hoser McMoose on 7/13/2007 2:47:03 PM , Rating: 2
This can be solved with simple legislation stating that food and other items that currently depend on corn production gets first dibs on the corn supply.

Ouch, there's a plan that's absolutely doomed to failure before it even gets out of the gate! If you truly believe that this sort of thing can be legislated then you are being VERY naive!

Every time governments have tried to force such things they have failed miserable.
It took a very long time to get the energy yields of gasoline to the efficiency levels they are today.

We've been making ethanol for about a thousand years. We've only been making gasoline for about a hundred years. There really isn't much new technology that is going to significantly improve the energy yield we're going to get for producing ethanol from corn because it's an extremely well understood process.

Genetic engineering of the corn crops themselves is the only area that we're likely to have good payback on this, though we'd still be better off genetically engineering OTHER crops then corn.

It's a drop in the bucket compared to oil prices.

That's only because ethanol currently amounts to about 1% of the world's fossil fuel energy use (not counting the rather direct use of it as a 'fuel' when we drink the stuff!). If it were to make up a larger percentage of the fuel use in the world then the price would go up SIGNIFICANTLY and would become much more volatile.

Besides, corn is so thoroughly integrated into our food system that any small increases get passed along to the consumer in nearly every food-based product we buy.

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