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Honda to introduce a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel by 2010

While many domestic and foreign automakers are looking to hybrid technology to improve fuel efficiency across their auto lines, Honda is looking towards the tried and true: diesel engines.

It was reported last month that the next generation Honda Accord would forgo its slow-selling and poor-performing Accord Hybrid with a diesel variant. The oil-burning Honda Accord will feature a 2.2 liter i-CTDi Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel engine along with an ammonia-filled catalytic converter to reduce NOx emissions.

Honda is also poised to make a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel engine available for its larger vehicles including the Odyssey minivan, Pilot mid-sized SUV and the Ridgeline mid-sized pickup truck. The new Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel will first be available in 2010 according to the Japanese Nikkei newspaper.

The engine is said to be 30 percent more fuel efficient than Honda's current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine (rated at 17/24, 15/20 and 15/20 respectively in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline based on 2008 EPA estimates). The new motor is also said to produce 20 percent less carbon dioxide as the 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine.

Honda's new diesels likely won't come under as much scrutiny for failure to achieve EPA estimates as has been the case with hybrids. Honda knows this first-hand as it recently became the target of a class-action lawsuit regarding poor fuel economy on the Civic Hybrid.



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RE: Typo + comment
By dluther on 7/13/2007 1:04:28 PM , Rating: 2
It appears to me that you have a finely developed "all or nothing" mentality regarding alternative energy sources. Why is that? I fully support alternative energy sources, especially ones that are clean and renewable. Honestly, I really like the concept of ethanol, it's just that our current source is, well, no need to rehash that conversation.

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This can be solved with simple legislation

Okay. "Simple legislation" is an oxymoron -- there's no such thing as simple legislation, especially when you are neglecting the concept that these markets aren't regulated, merely subsidized It's called a free market economy, and a legislation that says someone can call "dibs" sounds logical, it just never will happen. It's obvious to me that you don't have a grasp of how futures, spot markets, independent sources, and farmer coalitions work to determine crop prices. You need to do some research on this. The farmer gets to sell his corn to the highest bidder. If the ethanol manufacturer wants to pay more than the feedlots, guess who's going to get the corn?

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Big friggin' whoop. Boo Hoo our price of corn goes up a little. It's a drop in the bucket compared to oil prices.

Oil and gasoline prices are already at historic highs, with no relief in sight, which already has a deleterious price effect of almost everything else because transportation and manufacturing costs are tied to these costs. That you don't care about raising the prices of other items independently tells me that you are either stupid, heartless, or are simply unaffected by the changes that are happening.

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Trade one problem for an even worse one.

How can augmenting our crude supplies with a cheaper supplement even remotely to be considered 'worse'? If crude oil is priced at $72/bbl, and TDP crude can be priced at $56/bbl, where is the problem? How in anyone's mind can a process that takes almost every organic waste we produce, and turn it into crude oil be considered bad?

Ultimately, I envy you -- I really do. You seem to live in a dream world where everything is possible, unaffected by the vagaries of political and economic downturns, and the effects those cause. If I were in that position, I'd stay there for as long as I could. Unfortunately for the rest of us, we have to live and work in the real world.


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