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Honda to introduce a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel by 2010

While many domestic and foreign automakers are looking to hybrid technology to improve fuel efficiency across their auto lines, Honda is looking towards the tried and true: diesel engines.

It was reported last month that the next generation Honda Accord would forgo its slow-selling and poor-performing Accord Hybrid with a diesel variant. The oil-burning Honda Accord will feature a 2.2 liter i-CTDi Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel engine along with an ammonia-filled catalytic converter to reduce NOx emissions.

Honda is also poised to make a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel engine available for its larger vehicles including the Odyssey minivan, Pilot mid-sized SUV and the Ridgeline mid-sized pickup truck. The new Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel will first be available in 2010 according to the Japanese Nikkei newspaper.

The engine is said to be 30 percent more fuel efficient than Honda's current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine (rated at 17/24, 15/20 and 15/20 respectively in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline based on 2008 EPA estimates). The new motor is also said to produce 20 percent less carbon dioxide as the 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine.

Honda's new diesels likely won't come under as much scrutiny for failure to achieve EPA estimates as has been the case with hybrids. Honda knows this first-hand as it recently became the target of a class-action lawsuit regarding poor fuel economy on the Civic Hybrid.

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Diesels rule
By vzemployee on 7/11/2007 5:53:07 PM , Rating: 2
Its about time another automaker enters the US diesel market.

Having driven various TDI's, MB's, Jeep CRD's, I can only say that there were NO sacrifices made. Power was pleny. Noise was minimal. Personal satisfaction was extremely high. And, the diesels do so much better when loaded or at altitude. When compared to similarly sized gasoline competitors, you just don't notice the 4 extra passengers and the trunk full of luggage with a turbo diesel, and altitude(for those of you living mile high or more) doesn't kill the powerband.

Total pollution seems to be less. The diesel tailpipe pollutes a little more. But, if you burn 1/2 the fuel, you have to import half the fuel, transport 1/2 the fuel, refine 1/2 the fuel......I'm more then willing to allow slightly higher tailpipe emissions when compared to the gasoline engine. Home grown fuel are also options. Waste to fuel processing, vegetable oils, biodiesels.....don't need importing.

And, for you hybrid fanatics. Think of the MPG if you provide some hybrid assist to a diesel engine. Toyota Prius + VW TDI =====????

RE: Diesels rule
By encia on 7/13/2007 7:24:21 AM , Rating: 2
"Toyota Exec Says Diesel Prius Hybrids Possible"

Toyota already has 1.4L DICE for Yaris/Aygo. Both Toyota drive trains are already in mass production.

Toyota and Hino already has DICE-Hybrid for the truck segment.

This DICE-Hybrid is powered the same Toyota-developed hybrid-power computer software and parallel/series hybrid (Synergy drive)system.

RE: Diesels rule
By encia on 7/13/2007 8:11:01 AM , Rating: 2
Think of the MPG if you provide some hybrid assist to a diesel engine. Toyota Prius + VW TDI =====????

For improvement hints…

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This Toyota hybrid-diesel drive; delivers 50 percent better fuel economy than conventionally powered trucks of equivalent capacity.

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