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Honda to introduce a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel by 2010

While many domestic and foreign automakers are looking to hybrid technology to improve fuel efficiency across their auto lines, Honda is looking towards the tried and true: diesel engines.

It was reported last month that the next generation Honda Accord would forgo its slow-selling and poor-performing Accord Hybrid with a diesel variant. The oil-burning Honda Accord will feature a 2.2 liter i-CTDi Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel engine along with an ammonia-filled catalytic converter to reduce NOx emissions.

Honda is also poised to make a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel engine available for its larger vehicles including the Odyssey minivan, Pilot mid-sized SUV and the Ridgeline mid-sized pickup truck. The new Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel will first be available in 2010 according to the Japanese Nikkei newspaper.

The engine is said to be 30 percent more fuel efficient than Honda's current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine (rated at 17/24, 15/20 and 15/20 respectively in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline based on 2008 EPA estimates). The new motor is also said to produce 20 percent less carbon dioxide as the 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine.

Honda's new diesels likely won't come under as much scrutiny for failure to achieve EPA estimates as has been the case with hybrids. Honda knows this first-hand as it recently became the target of a class-action lawsuit regarding poor fuel economy on the Civic Hybrid.

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RE: Typo + comment
By Hoser McMoose on 7/11/2007 5:40:19 PM , Rating: 2
Biodiesel from algae is a VERY different thing than ethanol. Ethanol from other feedstocks does hold some promise, but unfortunately it is not being widely explored while governments are very literally pumping billions of dollars into ethanol from corn.

The US has very large natural gas reserves. Canada, US, and Mexico hold 46% of the worlds estimated natural gas reserves so your argument is baseless.

I don't know where you're getting that 46% number, but the link you provided states that North America has 5% of the world's proven reserves. The US government numbers are slightly worse:

Beyond that though North American reserves are in decline while demand has increased. That is why there are so many Natural Gas ports being proposed. Of course, NIMBYism has reared it's ugly head here and MANY of those proposed ports are being blocked.

RE: Typo + comment
By SandmanWN on 7/11/2007 5:55:51 PM , Rating: 2
It hasn't been widely explored because it is practically brand spanking new. They just got one small plant in operation and as small as it is (size of a mobile home) fuels their entire fleet of vehicles. In any means you are equating the short span of ethanol to the 100+ years of gasoline production and trying to draw a meaningful conclusion and time frames. Its simply isn't a practical argument.

And the 46% number is the total of North America.

RE: Typo + comment
By Hoser McMoose on 7/13/2007 1:49:49 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry for the late reply, been busy at work.

And the 46% number is the total of North America.

Uhh, unless you're "North America" includes Russia, then you're 46% figure is totally wrong. The US has about 3% of the world's reserves and Mexico and Canada have about 1% each.

See the link I provided above for more details.

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