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Honda to introduce a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel by 2010

While many domestic and foreign automakers are looking to hybrid technology to improve fuel efficiency across their auto lines, Honda is looking towards the tried and true: diesel engines.

It was reported last month that the next generation Honda Accord would forgo its slow-selling and poor-performing Accord Hybrid with a diesel variant. The oil-burning Honda Accord will feature a 2.2 liter i-CTDi Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel engine along with an ammonia-filled catalytic converter to reduce NOx emissions.

Honda is also poised to make a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel engine available for its larger vehicles including the Odyssey minivan, Pilot mid-sized SUV and the Ridgeline mid-sized pickup truck. The new Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel will first be available in 2010 according to the Japanese Nikkei newspaper.

The engine is said to be 30 percent more fuel efficient than Honda's current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine (rated at 17/24, 15/20 and 15/20 respectively in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline based on 2008 EPA estimates). The new motor is also said to produce 20 percent less carbon dioxide as the 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine.

Honda's new diesels likely won't come under as much scrutiny for failure to achieve EPA estimates as has been the case with hybrids. Honda knows this first-hand as it recently became the target of a class-action lawsuit regarding poor fuel economy on the Civic Hybrid.

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RE: It amuses me
By Hoser McMoose on 7/11/2007 3:39:59 PM , Rating: 2
It passes also California's emission standards, which is the most strict in US.

There is not a single diesel-engine passenger vehicle of the 2007 (or 2008) model year that has passed California's emission standards. You can find the list of vehicles here:

The only diesel-engine passenger vhielce that passes ANY of the US standards is the Mercedes "Bluetec" E320, but it's sold as a "45-state" vehicle because it didn't meet the emission tests in the 5 states (California, Massachusetts, Maine, New York and Vermont) that go above and beyond the US Federal requirements.

This upcoming Honda engine is a Tier 2, Bin 5 vehicle which means it should pass the California requirements, while Mercedes certainly has plans on fixing their emissions to meet those requirements as well. I don't know about VW/Audi yet though, as of right now ALL of their diesel engines fail on the US Federal requirements, let alone the CARB ones.

In terms of efficiency and being a "clean" engine, EU passed US long time ago.

Sorry but that's just 100% false. The current US Tier 2 standards are most definitely more stringent then the current EU Euro4 standards.

The upcoming Euro5 standards, to be implemented in 2009, should more or less match current US standards.

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