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Honda to introduce a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel by 2010

While many domestic and foreign automakers are looking to hybrid technology to improve fuel efficiency across their auto lines, Honda is looking towards the tried and true: diesel engines.

It was reported last month that the next generation Honda Accord would forgo its slow-selling and poor-performing Accord Hybrid with a diesel variant. The oil-burning Honda Accord will feature a 2.2 liter i-CTDi Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel engine along with an ammonia-filled catalytic converter to reduce NOx emissions.

Honda is also poised to make a new 3.5 liter V6 diesel engine available for its larger vehicles including the Odyssey minivan, Pilot mid-sized SUV and the Ridgeline mid-sized pickup truck. The new Tier 2 Bin 5 diesel will first be available in 2010 according to the Japanese Nikkei newspaper.

The engine is said to be 30 percent more fuel efficient than Honda's current 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine (rated at 17/24, 15/20 and 15/20 respectively in the Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline based on 2008 EPA estimates). The new motor is also said to produce 20 percent less carbon dioxide as the 3.5 liter V6 gasoline engine.

Honda's new diesels likely won't come under as much scrutiny for failure to achieve EPA estimates as has been the case with hybrids. Honda knows this first-hand as it recently became the target of a class-action lawsuit regarding poor fuel economy on the Civic Hybrid.



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RE: What utter crap.
By mdogs444 on 7/11/2007 1:20:45 PM , Rating: 1
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If one wants to see impressive diesel technology, you dont look at japanese cars, you look at european, particularly german and french, car makers - they're at the bleeding edge of this technology in every aspect


You are correct - when it comes to fuel efficiency. When it comes to power, well the US has that beat, but its for a different market (towing, trucking, etc).

What people here are failing to recognize, is that the Japanese manufacturers don't invent anything. They take what is already on the market, and refine it to be better.

Computers invented in US, now refined and produced in japan, china, korea. Cars invented in US, now refined in Japan & Korea.

The diesel engine was invented and first used in the US. Europe has been forced to make it much more efficient due to the price of gasoline & cars out there.

Japan will take the Diesel engine, and refine it to be more efficient, better quality, and cheaper than Europe. Honda will make a motor that is second to none in quality as they have been for the past decade, and produce it cheaper than you can a diesel for a VW/Audi, Benz, etc. Japanese wages & workforce VS. European wages & workforce. Its hard for any company to step up to that kind of competition.


RE: What utter crap.
By simong123 on 7/11/2007 3:28:00 PM , Rating: 5
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Computers invented in US, now refined and produced in japan, china, korea. Cars invented in US, now refined in Japan & Korea.

Computers - very debateable
Cars - Invented in Germany (Benz)
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The diesel engine was invented and first used in the US. Europe has been forced to make it much more efficient due to the price of gasoline & cars out there.

The diesel engine was invented in Germany (Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel, working for Linde)


RE: What utter crap.
By EnderJ on 7/12/2007 7:44:17 AM , Rating: 1
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Cars - Invented in Germany (Benz)


Nope sorry, Benz may have invented the first Gasoline powered vehicle in 1885/1886, but the French (Cugnot) had a steam powered vehicle in 1769.

They're all based off Da Vinci's 15th century designs anyway.

As for the USA. Henry Ford didn't invent the automobile, he introduced the automobile assembly line which finally put cars in a position where everyday people could afford them.


RE: What utter crap.
By rcreyes on 7/11/2007 6:24:59 PM , Rating: 3
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Japanese wages & workforce VS. European wages & workforce. Its hard for any company to step up to that kind of competition.


What nonsense. Don't confuse Japan and China. There is no greater difference in two countries so close together geographically than Japan and China. Japanese wages are very high, perhaps higher than America's. Japanese industry is being hollowed out because of cheap Chinese labor. Of course, they keep the best, most complex work in Japan, as only the Japanese workforce can produce products with such high quality and complexity. Japan is to Europe what Europe is to China.


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