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Creative Labs makes ALchemy Audigy Edition available for $9.99

Creative Labs has officially released the Creative ALchemy Audigy Edition software package. The software package sells for $9.99 from the company’s online store. The Creative ALchemy Audigy Edition software package enables users of Sound Blaster Audigy sound cards to take advantage of hardware-accelerated DirectSound3D and EAX audio under Windows Vista operating systems.

Additionally, the ALchemy Audigy Edition enables sample rate conversion and hardware audio mixing. The software also features an update feature that downloads lists of the latest games supported by ALchemy. Creative Labs currently supports 104 legacy game titles with ALchemy. Supported titles include Command & Conquer 3, F.E.A.R., Far Cry, Guild Wars, Oblivion, World of Warcraft and others.

Creative Labs supports the following Audigy sound cards with ALchemy:
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 4
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS notebook
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 SE
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum Ex
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Value
  • Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum Ex
  • Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum
  • Sound Blaster Audigy
Windows Vista Audigy users can purchase ALchemy Audigy Edition from the Creative Labs online store for Windows Vista 32-bit and 64-bit.


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huh
By omnicronx on 7/4/2007 8:33:11 AM , Rating: 3
am i reading this correctly.. are they charging 10 dollars for the exact same thing you get for free under xp?




RE: huh
By GoodBytes on 7/4/2007 8:49:02 AM , Rating: 2
I think Creative technically stop supporting these devices, so they basically spread the cost of the work time of their driver theme to the customers. They evaluate how much people will still have those sound card and have or will have Windows Vista (and a fully compatible PC that has specs over the Re commanded System Requirements (so, gamers that enjoy their games on max or near max settings with awesome sound...)


RE: huh
By omnicronx on 7/4/2007 8:59:46 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
They evaluate how much people will still have those sound card and have or will have Windows Vista


do you know how many people own an audigy 2/4 series card? almost all creative card owners out there. I believe this is a total jip.. i know they were never vista supported cards.. but if they work they should have at least made a downloadable version of just the drivers without the software.
i am so glad i left creative a long time ago, and i will surely never go back now.

i see now why they released free audigy 1 and soundblaster 24 drivers and not audigy 2/4's.. damn you creative!!! and your EAX monopoly!!!


RE: huh
By tuteja1986 on 7/4/2007 10:31:02 AM , Rating: 5
this type of stuff only works with Apple users :)
* pay for enabling 802.11n wifi on their Airport adapters
* pay for Bootcamp final
Also other stuff


RE: huh
By akugami on 7/4/07, Rating: -1
RE: huh
By TomZ on 7/4/2007 5:38:28 PM , Rating: 5
Did Microsoft try to charge extra to dual-boot different operating systems? No.


RE: huh
By akugami on 7/4/2007 7:45:50 PM , Rating: 2
The other thing with buying a Macintosh is that you expect it to be a closed system. So paying for the ability to dual boot is not IMHO underhanded. It is on the price gouging side though.

As for your question, the response would be no. But MS did make it difficult to dual boot their own OS's. When you need a guide for a knowledgeable (not a techie but not a newbie either) user to even dual boot WinXP and Vista it's not exactly being helpful.

I'm not supporting Apple's price gouging, just saying other companies do it as well and have done so for years in the Windows world. I didn't say Microsoft btw as most probably are jumping to just such a conclusion.

The bottom line is to make money however you can in a legal fashion off of consumers. If a company can price gouge it's consumers, more power to them. It's a load of crud and I'm personally not going for it and will be wary of said company. After all, I'm an informed consumer and I will assume most reading DT are as well. However, I'll be lying to you if I said I didn't wish I had such customers. I help in a management level in my cousin's business and my father owns a couple of retail stores. We'd love some of Apple's customers. :)

I have not owned a Macintosh in well over 10 years. I do have an iPod and have no intention of getting an iPhone. No vested interest in Apple financially or fanboy wise.


RE: huh
By psychobriggsy on 7/4/2007 8:41:47 PM , Rating: 2
No. They simply overwrote that other operating system when you installed Windows, with no option to not do that if it was on the same disc. Hence for years you had to install Windows before Linux.


RE: huh
By Marcus Pollice on 7/5/2007 4:16:58 AM , Rating: 2
If you have more than one partition you can easily install Windows after any other OS without overwriting it. The only thing that might get overwritten this way is the boot loader.

On this particular notebook I installed OSes practically in the reverse order of what would be recommended (that is: Vista, XP, Linux). And guess what, some smart switching around of active partitions made it work perfectly (using GRUB I can boot all three of them).


RE: huh
By phusg on 7/5/2007 7:32:04 AM , Rating: 2
Hardly easy if you have to know which partition to install on and if you have to do some 'smart switching around' to avoid rendering the other OS unbootable by overwriting the boot loader!

No major problem for you or I, but not exactly grandma friendly, which is what I think they were getting at.


RE: huh
By Kenenniah on 7/5/2007 3:26:24 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't dual booting and installing operating systems period something you wouldn't expect "grandma" to do? Heck, even knowing what an operating system is and that there's more than one out there is something most non-techies don't even understand. My grandmother still believes the Internet is inside her computer.


RE: huh
By RMSe17 on 7/5/2007 12:06:51 AM , Rating: 2
I do not think you are correct as far as BootCamp. The only two things that BootCamp does are: 1. Burn you a CD with the Windows Drivers 2. Open partition manager so you can create another partition without losing your data. BootCamp does not enable any features... You don't need BootCamp to run Windows on a Mac, or Linux for that matter. You can use other tools for repartitioning, and get the drivers via other means.


RE: huh
By Zensen on 7/4/2007 1:33:39 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
this type of stuff only works with Apple users :)
* pay for enabling 802.11n wifi on their Airport adapters
* pay for Bootcamp final
Also other stuff


So true!


RE: huh
By psychobriggsy on 7/4/2007 8:40:25 PM , Rating: 2
Well Apple got caught out because they were selling "new functionality" for a product that they had already accounted for the sale of. It appears that this is illegal in the USA. It is also why Apple had to spread the revenues from the iPhone over a 24 month period - so they could add new features and account for the income from them without having to charge the customers extra.

Anyway what was it? $2?

Boot Camp has been free since release, and works just fine. How much are they charging for the final release?

$10 to enable functionality you paid for when you bought the product is an entirely different matter. I also feel the same way about nVidia's Purevideo system.


RE: huh
By nemrod on 7/4/2007 6:48:18 PM , Rating: 2
Somebody buy XP and an audigy with functional software

Then microsoft change their system with a lot of internal change and the creative soft doesn't work anymore. Who has made the change creative?

Somebody buy now Vista... So give a second time buck to microsoft... Why should creative pay developper for you and microsoft choice?


RE: huh
By Slaimus on 7/5/2007 2:02:53 PM , Rating: 2
This reminds me of those Dell computers that you can upgrade to 'Audigy Software Edition".


Wait a minute.....
By fyahman on 7/4/2007 10:31:14 AM , Rating: 2
So....they give us crappy vista drivers (i cant enable EAX in any game no matter what I try...)and now I gotta pay for the solution???




RE: Wait a minute.....
By ultimaone on 7/4/2007 10:45:08 AM , Rating: 2
ya for any of the older games

newer ones won't have that issue

but really i agree, why do we need to pay ?
we already paid for the product....


RE: Wait a minute.....
By imaheadcase on 7/4/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wait a minute.....
By omnicronx on 7/4/2007 3:28:02 PM , Rating: 2
and as people pointed out.. they did pay.. paid big, especially for their higher end cards with the front ports.
This is a scam, if you actually read into all they did is support old games through OpenAL, which was implemented in xp long before vista, amazingly creative owns part of that too.
Its not like they wrote a new set of drivers and software from scratch just because its vista, video card makers did though and i dont see any $10.99 drivers on the nvidia site and they actually did some work.

so all i have to say is.
"programming is free when its already been done"

also its not like vista has a new technology that older sound cards cant take advantage of, its infact the other way around, vista gets rid of hardware accelerated directsound support. this so called 'driver' is just a vista API workaround using openAL.

so i have no problem with reason and common sense, whats hard for me to grasp is "why should someone have to pay for a downgrade"

creative is just taking advantage of the many people that have bought an audigy 2/4 (which is most creative cards out there) knowing full well if they only get 20-30% of the people who own one to buy this, they will still make a killing. its people like you that allow them to keep doing what they are doing!


RE: Wait a minute.....
By Proteusza on 7/4/2007 4:05:53 PM , Rating: 2
Programming is so free in this in fact, that you can use the X Fi drivers by copying part of the audigy drivers over.


RE: Wait a minute.....
By nemrod on 7/4/2007 6:53:54 PM , Rating: 2
It's really a great surprise that video card maker who sell dx10 board give vista drivers for free


RE: Wait a minute.....
By nemrod on 7/4/2007 6:53:56 PM , Rating: 2
It's really a great surprise that video card maker who sell dx10 board give vista drivers for free


RE: Wait a minute.....
By Thalyn on 7/4/2007 8:42:10 PM , Rating: 1
You can't enable EAX in Vista because of Microsoft; not Creative. It was their decision to revamp the sound engine in Vista to such a point where they removed the HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer - read: hardware acceleration) and run everything through their own software engine. Since MS' engine doesn't support EAX, you can't enable it - QED.

Piping the DS3D and EAX calls through OpenAL is the -only- way to restore hardware functionality in Vista, as well as EAX effects.

Blame MS for MS' problems - not Creative.

-Jak


RE: Wait a minute.....
By PrinceGaz on 7/4/2007 9:46:10 PM , Rating: 2
Sending EAX but not OpenAL through Microsoft's interface does not explain the difference. Either they both should be forced through Vista's software emulation, or Creative should be able to send calls both EAX and OpenAL calls to its driver.

Why the need for a wrapper between the game's outputting EAX to convert it to OpenAL? And is there in any point in MS not allowing Creative to write an EAX driver for Vista, if Creative's coders are up to it? Seems to me that Creative took the easy route out, but that's okay as their hardware is all now obsolete. Dual- and soon quad-core processors make audio CPU utilisation irrelevant so all that will matter is the quality of the DACs and drivers. A good VIA Envy 24 based card would be as good in both aspects as most Creative cards.


RE: Wait a minute.....
By Thalyn on 7/4/2007 11:45:54 PM , Rating: 2
You missed the point by quite a long way there. OpenAL is as sepeate to EAX as OpenGL is to D3D.

EAX sits alongside DS3D - always has. It's never been an independant setup in the way that A3D was in order to retain as much compatability as possible (eg If you don't have EAX effects you still get full DS3D sound, where-as a separate sound engine is needed for A3D). The reason why OpenAL works under Vista is the same reason that OpenGL works - it's a completely independant interface which just happens to use the same hardware to achieve the same results. I'm not exaclty sure why it's still allowed direct access to the hardware while DS3D isn't, but that's the way MS decided to go and we have to live with it (for now).

Since MS has redesigned DS3D to be a purely sofware implementation, it doesn't matter whether they allow Creative to write Vista EAX drivers for it or not - it won't work since the final "processor" is a software engine written by MS. ALchemy itself doesn't just convert EAX requests into OpenAL - it converts every single DS3D request, as well as EAX. Without ALchemy you don't just lose EAX effects; you lose any surround sound channels you might know and love, since all the 3D effects are pure emulation with stereo output (though I'm certain I've heard my centre speaker helping in said emulation).

What you're basically asking is why you can't use LPG (or whatever it's called in your country) to power your petrol engine, since all they're both doing is the classic 4-stroke combustion cycle. There's a lot more to it than just what appears on the surface, and having multi-processor systems to deal with the audio won't make the situation any better since the limitations are in the main software, not the processing power behind it.

-Jak


RE: Wait a minute.....
By RMSe17 on 7/5/2007 12:16:03 AM , Rating: 3
Bingo. Good job on explaining things to people, cause I am really tired of their wining at creative who went beyond what they had to in order to help people play older games on older hardware in the brand new Microsoft OS.. trying to fix Microsoft's idiotic decision (to remove Audio HAL, and have audio stuff reside in user-space instead of kernel space to make things more.. stable. cause apparently I had tons of blue screens from all those crashing audio drivers. not.)


RE: Wait a minute.....
By phusg on 7/5/2007 7:50:13 AM , Rating: 2
Sure you can blame Microsoft, but I don't think there decision was idiotic. Moving it to user-space isn't just about stability, it's also about security .

I can't say it bothers me that Creative had a lot of work to do to get their proprietary EAX to work and that people who bought into it have to cough up extra dough.

People please don't buy into this proprietary B.S.! Hit them where it hurts and don't buy Microsoft's Vista and don't buy anymore Creative EAX cards.


RE: Wait a minute.....
By FNG on 7/5/2007 1:32:00 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I for one did get the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSoD from my Audigy for quite a while. Besides, just because something resides in user-space does not mean it is bad. User-space can do pretty much all the things that kernel mode things can, albeit a bit slower.


$9.99 Software
By drq on 7/4/2007 8:48:18 AM , Rating: 2
It will be like a new software made by Creative which is sold for $9.99. It will be on all trackers in no time.

Creative will deserve this.




RE: $9.99 Software
By omnicronx on 7/4/2007 9:05:15 AM , Rating: 2
ya but you would still have to think 75% of owners will not be smart enough to do this and buy the damn drivers.
Its probably worked before when they stopped having downloadable drivers and software for certain cards, and they only sold them on a CD they would mail to you.
It worked before.. it probably will again


RE: $9.99 Software
By Rampage on 7/4/2007 12:58:31 PM , Rating: 2
I remember this. I remember freaking out because I thought I'd lost my original driver cd. Of course you needed that so you could apply the updates from their website.

Thankfully, I haven't owned an Audigy since that original Audigy1. Never fell for it again like most people.

Using my Karajan audio still. Its Azalia based, and works excellent until someone releases a worthy audio card not based on any Creative tech, nor in any way dependant on their software support.

That means, don't buy the Auzentech X-Fi Prelude.


RE: $9.99 Software
By GlassHouse69 on 7/5/2007 1:07:34 AM , Rating: 2
your solutions, while fine for much, do not support hardware acceleration and eax. it is a large, permanent hit in a multiplayer game like BF2142. without it, no matter the cpu, sound will get f'd up and make you skip frames from time to time.


RE: $9.99 Software
By darkpaw on 7/4/2007 3:33:07 PM , Rating: 2
There is nothing smart about pirating software, even if the company is ripping people off (which I think creative is obviously doing).

The correct solution is just not to buy any more of their crap, which will be exactly what I'll be doing.


RE: $9.99 Software
By Rampage on 7/4/2007 6:27:11 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly.

Don't pirate it, boycott it by not using it.
It's supporting the company by even pirating it.. why would you want such a sloppily supported, joke of a card in your system anyway?

Do people seriously still believe in FPS gains from a minor CPU load being taken off our insanely overpowered Core2Duo processors?

Maybe at 640x480 you can see a difference in real world gameplay.. as in a difference between 900FPS and 910FPS.

In case no one out there knows yet, the bottleneck for gaming is still on the video card.. not audio acceleration.

Spend your money saved not buying Creative products on a better GPU if you truly are serious about FPS gains.
It's the difference between a 8800GTS and a 8800GTX! Depending on sound card (not) purchased.


RE: $9.99 Software
By PrinceGaz on 7/4/2007 10:33:09 PM , Rating: 2
Of course you shouldn't pirate it, but Creative didn't let on the X-Fi would be worthless within a year of it being launched (for understandable reasons).

X-RAM! Yeah right, as if any game is going to benefit from that now OpenAL is the only way to the card.

The only thing the X-Fi series cards have going for them now is their high-quality (by Creative's standards) sampling-rate converter hardware to change the internal 48KHz processing to and from whatever it is output as (often 44.1KHz).

I certainly won't buy another Creative (heh, the name is even a mockery) card as the days of audio-acceleration in hardware have passed. And physics-acceleration will be gone in a couple of years thanks to every more powerful GPUs with physics-support (hello Aegia, your days are numbered as well).


Get it for free; legally
By jmke on 7/4/2007 10:58:34 AM , Rating: 6
"we have discovered that you do not actually need to buy ALchemy Audigy Edition to restore functions under Windows Vista and the Audigy/Live! Series. You can just download ALchemy for Sound Blaster X-Fi (it’s available for free) and manually copy dsound.dll and dsound.ini to a supported title."

from http://www.ngohq.com/news/11368-creative-sells-alc...




RE: Get it for free; legally
By omnicronx on 7/4/2007 11:24:36 AM , Rating: 2
Good man! although i do not have an audigy, this post will atleast make a few people happy..

i say give creative the middle finger and stop supporting their crappy EAX monopoly. EAX is an inferior addon compared to other BETTER things such as OPENAL.. which is free and game developers dont need to pay up the ass to have eax certification.. did i mention it works with almost all 5.1 soundcards.. SCREW YOU CREATIVE!!


RE: Get it for free; legally
By killerroach on 7/4/2007 12:39:52 PM , Rating: 2
The even funnier thing is that ALchemy uses OpenAL to handle the EAX function calls...

Again, though, I kinda leapfrogged over the whole issue (without ever having the issue in the first place) by jumping from my integrated audio to an X-Fi Platinum, but whatever.


Freebie with support
By The Boston Dangler on 7/4/2007 12:31:19 PM , Rating: 6
Creative Forums (ha!) via Tweakguides.com

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/mess...




RE: Freebie with support
By darkpaw on 7/4/2007 8:35:07 PM , Rating: 2
The funny thing is that the guy that cracked the drivers proved that Creative was full of bull when they said that making it work for the Audigy required much more work then the X-Fi. All Creative did was disable the installer on cards that didn't have EAX5 present and he took out that check so they install.

God that just pisses me off at Creative even more. I've been buying Creative sound cards since the SB Pro I put in my 386, but it'll never happen again. They also lost my MP3 business (and my old one just bit the dust too).

I heard the Sansas are pretty nice, I need to take a look at those.


RE: Freebie with support
By PrinceGaz on 7/4/2007 10:00:17 PM , Rating: 2
Disabling the option to install on systems with non X-Fi cards was exactly the reason I assumed the ALchemy wrapper didn't work with Audigy cards from day one. It was so obvious, it's a wrapper ffs, translating calls from EAX to OpenAL (which both the Audigy and X-Fi support).

I think I said at the time they announced they would be charging for it was that the only extra work Creative would need to do is verify the ALchemy wrapper works with Audigy cards as well as X-Fi cards, and enable the option to allow it to be installed on systems without an X-Fi.

When I migrate to Vista (probably SP2 as SP1 is too rushed), if I'm still using my Audigy 2ZS I'll download my copy of the latest version of ALchemy. I'll pay for it as much as I feel it is worth then, which will probably be a very round number.

Hardware sound-acceleration was dead the day dual-core processors arrived; quad- and future multi-core processors only serve to show the X-Fi was a waste of time.


stupid
By Gul Westfale on 7/4/2007 1:02:43 PM , Rating: 2
in essence they are charging people 10 bucks for what amounts to simply being a vista driver. i know that they never claimed that they would support any of those cards under any future operating system, but when you buy hardware it is commonly accepted that the company that sold you the hardware will support its own products, and therefore, its own customers, with the necessary updates.

with this move creative may have made a few bucks in the short run, but in the long run this will certainly cost them dearly as the importance of discrete soundcards seems to be waning. i myself have use both an x-fi and an integrated realtek chipset (in my laptop), and i can assure you that he difference in sound quality (through sennheiser headphones) is nothing to write home about.

add to this the fact that a lot of game engines these days handle their sound effects over the main processor (like the half-life 2 engine), and the future does not look bright for add-in sound cards.

so one really wonders why creative is sticking it to their customers now, shouldn't they rather be extra nice to us?




RE: stupid
By Dactyl on 7/4/2007 3:27:09 PM , Rating: 2
But Vista drivers are a pain (especially audio, because of the unnecessary junk MSFT put into their architecture to support DRM).

Creative had no obligation to make their old products support this particular OS.

By creating a money incentive for itself, the company was able to justify spending huge amounts of money on research & development for an old product. If you can afford Vista, and you want to keep your old sound card, you can afford $10.

Plus, the download is actually free if you are marginally competent. That is not an accident. That is so tech-savvy users can get the upgrade for free without bitching, while everyone else can pay for it. So don't feel guilty when you do install it for free (and don't think you're sticking it to them).

That's the same reason companies charge $400 to put a second 1GB stick of DDR2 in new laptops. If you're skilled enough to install a stick on your own, you can ignore the high price, and if not, you're probably not too upset about paying it (you probably don't even know you're being ripped off).


RE: stupid
By omnicronx on 7/4/2007 3:38:08 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Creative had no obligation to make their old products support this particular OS.


creative is a monopoly in the sound card business, they must have a good 90% of all soundcards sold (estimating). so you are telling me essentially the biggest soundcard company with essentially no competition has no obligation whatsoever to make their 1-4 year old products support a new o/s that was being developed for 5? if they were not a monopoly this would have never happened, plain and simple.

i know as you said anyone can get it by bittorrent etc etc..
but just the fact they are taking advantage of those who dont know is just wrong, just to make a few more bucks in a market you already dominate


RE: stupid
By nemrod on 7/4/2007 7:58:51 PM , Rating: 2
creative is a monopoly? I believe most of users never buy sound card but just on board audio...
That about the same thing to say than most of graphic device come from Nvidia and ATI... In fact first seller is Intel...


RE: stupid
By Gul Westfale on 7/4/2007 4:10:38 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
That is so tech-savvy users can get the upgrade for free without bitching, while everyone else can pay for it.


so you are saying that those who are clueless when it comes to computers (98% of PC owners) should be the suckers who foot the bill? and then we should be happy about it? and how hard can it be to make drivers? we're not talking millions of dollars here. also, the audigy2/4 series isn't that old (by soundcard standards), and for along time it was the de-facto standard in a gaming PC- so creative knows very well that there are a lot of people out there that have these things and may want to actually use them under vista.

as for myself, i am tech-savvy and that is why i have not upgraded to vista, and i won't , in teh near future. but that's another story.


Drivers for $$?
By dolcraith on 7/4/2007 8:32:12 AM , Rating: 2
I know this is a "software package", but isn't this like charging money for drivers? I mean the capability is already in this hardware..




RE: Drivers for $$?
By arazok on 7/4/2007 8:41:30 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. This audigy owner is looking for pirated copies right now. I'm never giving CL my $$$ again.


nice idea
By drq on 7/4/2007 9:48:03 AM , Rating: 4
From the same series : nVIDIA Drivers, ONLY $14.99 !!! Big Discounts !!! You can get the 3D experience in Windows Vista !

Creative aren't giving a crap for their customers. How can they come up with such ideas ?




????
By Comdrpopnfresh on 7/4/2007 11:50:59 AM , Rating: 2
Is this against their terms of service? I thought companies had to support products for ten years by law, including support for industry standards. Oh wait..... vista....




RE: ????
By omnicronx on 7/4/2007 11:59:41 AM , Rating: 2
and im sure they do support their product for 10 years... in windows xp, there are always loopholes, especially with computer software. This is nothing new for creative, they did the same thing when xp came out, barely supported soundblaster and soundblaster live series, the pre installed windows drivers are still better to this day.


what were they thinking ?
By ultimaone on 7/4/2007 9:26:47 AM , Rating: 2
wow, to charge people to use their products, for which they already paid for....

is it a huge cost, no, but really some people have paid a lot of money for their audigy, especially with the front panel models.

how creative labs tanked.....




bye bye creative
By thejez on 7/4/2007 10:28:32 AM , Rating: 2
well that settles it.. i'll be taking that $10 and putting it toward a new sound card... NOT made by creative... nor ever again... gg CL you served a purpose in computing at one time...




thanks again CL
By Pwnt Soup on 7/4/2007 10:40:33 AM , Rating: 2
1st I tried too get a black faceplate for my drive bay. not an old model an audigy2zs plat. and was told sry out of luck.
2nd I tried in vain too get a driver problem resolved on the same card, was told sry out of luck. even tho i bought the card not 3 months ago at the time.
well this is the 3rd strike. CL you are out of luck if you think you will ever get 1 cent from me ever again.




I didn't know...
By SpaceRanger on 7/4/2007 10:56:02 AM , Rating: 2
That the 4th of July was April Fools Day! This is a great joke!




Farewell
By UppityMatt on 7/4/2007 12:55:21 PM , Rating: 2
This is one thing that i will download from a torrent or file sharing program and i will not feel any remorse whatsoever. I will never buy another creative product again.




E-MU
By knowom on 7/4/2007 4:48:37 PM , Rating: 2
At least creative made the E-MU beta drivers free granted they're beta drivers, but I'd be surprised if they try to pull this same stint with the E-MU audio interfaces since audiophiles are probably more likely to upgrade sound devices more regularly since anyone in that category is perhaps more likely to care about better sound quality for listening, recording, or more/better dsp effects.




By Ihmemies on 7/7/2007 7:50:52 PM , Rating: 2
This got pirated faster than you can spell cat...




Sounds like Creative Accounting
By tygrus on 7/5/2007 12:20:23 AM , Rating: 1
Upgrading old system to Vista just got more expensive. $10 for a driver modification which seems to be a quick back port of code portion already written for X-Fi. Guess who thinks they have a monopoly :)




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