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Microsoft's says goodbye to Office 2003

Office 2003 has been around for nearly four years and Microsoft feels that it's time to send the old mare off to the glue factory. According to Microsoft, OEM versions of Office 2003 will no longer be available from Microsoft after June 30.

For those that still wish to use Office 2003, Eric Ligman -- Microsoft US Senior Manager for Small Business Community Engagement -- offers this bit of advice: "Remember that for your clients wishing to run Office 2003 still today, by taking advantage of the downgrade rights included in the Volume Licensing versions of Microsoft Office 2007, they can utilize Office 2003 today and then move to Office 2007 when they are ready without having to re-buy their Office license like they would with OEM.  Remember that OEM Microsoft Office does not have downgrade rights."

Microsoft is now encouraging its OEMs to make the transition to Office 2007. Microsoft released Office 2007 for volume licensing on November 30 and made retail versions of the productivity suite available to customers on January 30.

Prices for retail copies of Office 2007 range from $149 for Office Home and Student 2007 to $499 for Office Professional 2007.



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Office 2007 is crappy
By soconne on 6/20/2007 11:23:19 AM , Rating: -1
I don't understand why anyone would opt to use Office 2007 over 2003 anyway. 2007 is horribly slow and unresponsive, the 'new' and 'improved' UI sucks and is not intuitive at all. Lets just all use OpenOffice instead.




RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By TomZ on 6/20/2007 11:29:58 AM , Rating: 2
I know you're being a troll, and I know it's not a good idea to feed trolls, but anyway...

There's nothing slow about Office 2007 compared to Office 2003 - both are plenty fast. Regarding the UI, if you take a little time to get used to the new UI in Office 2007, I think you'll find that it is a bit faster and easier to use.

And please, you're going to complain about "slow" and then suggest using OpenOffice?!? OpenOffice is tons slower than any version of Office.


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By soconne on 6/20/07, Rating: -1
RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By ChronoReverse on 6/20/2007 11:38:55 AM , Rating: 1
Um, OO is the definition of slow and bloated. It's great to have an OSS alternative, but let's not get carried away about the perks.


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By daftrok on 6/20/2007 11:40:58 AM , Rating: 1
Are you using Vista? Because its actually much faster on that then on XP.


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By ChronoReverse on 6/20/2007 6:40:10 PM , Rating: 1
Even on XP it's not bad. Inside my VM with 512MB of RAM, Word 2007 snaps on in less than 5 seconds and occupies about 22MB of RAM.

Granted, this obviously indicative of Word 2007 performance, but it's certainly not a slug on any reasonable system.


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By omnicronx on 6/20/07, Rating: 0
RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By rippleyaliens on 6/20/2007 4:02:24 PM , Rating: 2
ELCHEAPO... SO you must be running bootleg office 2007... MEANING with 512mb on your workstation, with the cost of 1gb DIMMS being $32 EA... That tells us, you are one of those types of people, who love to dwell in the past versus upgrading..

MEANING= Office 97 rocked, until xp / 2000 came out.. subtle improvements.. 2003 totally rockedd.. in comparison. office 2007 in my opinion is awesome.. with the core (word, excel, access, outlook) the functionality is improved.. Visio= same ole, project=ditto...
Now with Open office, well sure it is free... but you have to realize that office 2007 will last you WELL until 2011-2013.. lets say 5 years.. Cost you 8 $ a month, for the ultimate office...same for teh vista if so desired.
YET in 5 years how many machines will you purchase..
Of course an application made in 2007 (released) will run slow on somm OLD A%^# machines.. duhhh...
Open office, still blows, considering, taht when i want to preform some simple tasks, i have to get on the internet and post somthing.. Simple for a small company under 20 usres.. but imagine a company that is in the 100's of usres.. YAH right.. that is like saying linux is free.. WHATEVER<<<
XP business cost $300 (full price)4$ a month, for 6 years... IE $1 a week..
See where the cost factor is..


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By FITCamaro on 6/21/2007 6:39:37 PM , Rating: 2
Nearly any up to date business. A lot of machines in my office are Core 2 Duos and the rest are 3.0GHz P4s w/ HT. All the machines have at least 1GB of RAM and they all have Nvidia Quadro cards as GPUs.

At my last job we all had 3.0-3.2GHz Dells with 1GB of RAM and again, Quadros. The job before that some machines were older but that was also a smaller private company.


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By PitViper007 on 6/20/2007 11:56:44 AM , Rating: 2
While I think that most of Office 2007 is speedy enough, Outlook 2007 is a dog. I run a P4 3.4GHz PC w/2GB ram on Windows XP Pro. Plenty fast enough to run all the software I normally use, but Outlook will take 30 seconds or more to just start up. Once it's up and running, it seems to be fine, but startup is a bear.

PitViper


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By encryptkeeper on 6/20/2007 5:06:00 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, for a lot of systems, Office 2007 IS slower. System resource usage is a pretty good indicator: 40 mb of memory for microsoft word when I don't even have a word window open is pretty stupid. Outlook takes 60 mb just with the main window and one new message window open, Excel is 20 mb with one table open (that's not too bad). Haven't bothered with Publisher, powerpoint, or access. If the Vista rumors are true, then maybe it is just designed to be handled by Vista better than XP. But remember there are probably 100 machines running XP for every machine running Vista, so you're going to have a lot of people complaining about slowdown. It also seems to be a lot slower in a LAN environment too.


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By TomZ on 6/20/2007 5:29:15 PM , Rating: 2
Since the article is talking about OEM licenses, I think the ratio of OEM Office licenses on Vista is quite a bit higher than your estimates. I don't have the figures, but I'd guess that most of the PCs being sold at the moment include Vista. If this is true, then most of the OEM Office licenses are probably also going to run on Vista.


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By FITCamaro on 6/21/2007 6:44:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
0 mb of memory for microsoft word when I don't even have a word window open is pretty stupid. Outlook takes 60 mb just with the main window and one new message window open, Excel is 20 mb with one table open (that's not too bad).


Thats because its on your startup task list. Its already running in memory so it takes less time to open when you do want to use it. Many programs are like this. Adobe Acrobat, Quicktime, etc. They all put start up tasks on your computer. You can disable them at startup if you want to by doing start -> run -> msconfig -> Startup and then unchecking anything you don't want to run at startup.

I run Office 2007 on my main machine at home and didn't notice any difference in performance when switching from Office 2003.


RE: Office 2007 is crappy
By HrilL on 6/20/2007 12:09:12 PM , Rating: 2
When I had vista 2007 was pretty nice and on xp 64bit it is still not too bad but it is a little slower then 2003 at loading but once it is started it is just as fast or faster. I have a 3500+ @ 2.53ghz and 2GB of ram. My mom uses 2007 on her 1ghz cel. and 512MB of ram. Only thing slower really is load times and with the new ui there is no menu loading time like with 2003. And the new files are awesome 12KB for the same files that were 27KB in .doc format. Not that saving that little of space in even noticeable but at least M$ didn't fallow its same trend of making new files bigger then the older ones. It does take some time to get used to though but once you learn how it works you'll probably think it is better... As for open office that program is great. Love it for the simple fact it is free and is just as good as 2003 imo.


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