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Windows 2003 R2, 64-bit identifies the "Barcelona" processor as an unknown AMD CPU. (Source: DailyTech, Anh Huynh)

AMD's benchmarking utility reveals all four cores ran at 1.6 GHz. (Source: DailyTech, Anh Huynh)
Quad-Core AMD Opteron demonstrated by MSI, Supermicro, TYAN and Uniwide

AMD took the opportunity at Computex to show server platforms running the Quad-Core AMD Opteron processors, codenamed Barcelona, with the help of MSI, Supermicro, TYAN and Uniwide

The AMD quad-core processors are designed to drop-in (following a BIOS upgrade) with all existing AMD Opteron processor-based systems using DDR2 memory, while also enabling new platform capabilities such as those being demonstrated today.

One vendor demonstrated Barcelona to DailyTech, running at 1.6GHz. According to engineers familiar with the chip technology, the current AMD Barcelona samples are not scaling core frequencies well. AMD partners confirmed the highest running, POST and OS capable, Barcelona processor is 2.0 GHz. AMD previously posted benchmarks of a simulated 2.6 GHz Barcelona.

“We commend AMD for its non-disruptive roadmaps, allowing for a smooth upgrade from dual-core to quad-core,” said Danny Hsu, president, TYAN. “Streamlining and mitigating the complexities customers often face when upgrading their IT infrastructure is especially important in today’s competitive marketplace. TYAN has collaborated with AMD since 2001, and we will continue to support and take advantage of the customer-centric innovation AMD is offering in its quad-core processors when they are made available later this year.”

AMD roadmaps show Barcelona-based Opteron processors will launch in July, but the general consensus from partners is the processor isn’t performing well enough for a July launch.

“Quad-core, codenamed Barcelona will launch later this summer, in the July, August kind of time frame -- followed by [consumer chips] on the desktop... You'll see that in the Christmas line-up,” stated Robert Rivet, AMD executive vice president and CFO, just a few months ago.


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Wall Street went into panic this morning ?
By crystal clear on 6/6/2007 8:12:45 AM , Rating: 3
AMD certainly knows how to hurt itself by keeping SECRETS &
keep everybody guessing.

NO NEWS is BAD NEWS for the industry.

Read below-

"Cray started this mess yesterday by saying that component delays would cause it to miss the planned fourth quarter ship date for a revamped version of its XT4 supercomputer.

The only problem was that Cray refused to disclose which component in particular had caused the delay and failed to specify which version of AMD's upcoming four-core family – Barcelona or Budapest – it will use in the new XT4s. AMD has long said that Barcelona will ship in the Summer, while the lower-end Budapest is slated to arrive in the fourth quarter.

Wall Street went into panic this morning when the Dow Jones printed a pair of stories "confirming" that a Barcelona delay was behind Cray's issues. In one story, the newswire reported:

The part that is delayed is the four-core processor being made for the supercomputer by Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD), Steve Conway, a Cray spokesman, said in an interview.

"Its postponement, at least according to everything we know right now, is a brief postponement," Conway said.

In another story, the newswire reported:

On Monday supercomputer maker Cray Inc. (CRAY) issued a revenue warning for the year, citing a delay in the availability of a component, which analysts said is likely the Barcelona server chip. Meanwhile, on Tuesday Citigroup analyst Glen Yeung said
quote:
said in a research report out of Taiwan's Computex Trade show, that "several sources," including server vendors, distributors and motherboard makers, confirmed Barcelona will be delayed to September/October from June/July.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/05/amd_cray_d...




By crystal clear on 6/6/2007 8:19:08 AM , Rating: 2
Add this to the above-

Cray has blamed delayed shipments of Opteron-based servers for a likely massive fall in 2007 revenue.

The supercomputer maker today warned that its midpoint forecast for 2007 revenue has been lowered to $200m from previous guidance last month of $230m. The revenue drop comes as a result of delayed XT4 system shipments and could result in Cray posting a loss for the year. Cray had hoped to get upgraded XT4 systems using AMD's upcoming four-core version of Opteron out the door at a quick clip.

"Due to recent information with respect to the timing of volume parts availability, the company now believes that 2007 revenue associated with quad-core Cray XT4 systems will likely be less than previously anticipated," the company said. "Cray continues to anticipate deliveries of quad-core Cray XT4 systems and upgrades to begin during the fourth quarter of 2007; however, the timing is such that most or all of the planned acceptances, and associated revenue recognition, will likely be deferred until early 2008."

Cray had been enjoying a recent return to profitability. CEO Pete Ungaro noted that he was "disappointed" with the delays that put both growth and profitability "in jeopardy."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/04/barcelona_...


RE: Wall Street went into panic this morning ?
By CyborgTMT on 6/6/2007 1:41:06 PM , Rating: 5
Again the copy/paste of only half the information to make the Barcelona look like the bad guy...

We're told that the XT4 boxes rely on the lower-end 1000 Series four-core chips code-named Budapest, which AMD has said will ship in the second half of 2007. The rest of the world is most excited about the higher-end four-core parts dubbed Barcelona, which are set to ship by mid-year.

"Barcelona remains on track for launch this Summer," said an AMD spokesman. "You will see platforms shipping from partners in the third quarter. Budapest is on track for the second half of the year."


In short this was Cray's fault for thinking they would have the Budapest cpu's earlier than AMD is releasing them. AMD's roadmaps have shown it's release in the later half of 2007 for a long time now.


By crystal clear on 6/6/2007 7:52:36 PM , Rating: 1
I am not taking sides nor do I represent any of them or speak on behalf of them-

AMD communications with their buyers & or prospective buyers & the industry in general is simply a disaster.

Being too secretive about their plans/roadmaps/product details/etc etc has reached its extreme.

The result of this is the Craig/AMD episode.

I always tell my clients-
"Call me up-when you want & ask what you want-I am waiting for your call"

Thats the attitude - thats how you prevent P.R. disaters & confusions.


By crystal clear on 6/7/2007 4:48:36 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Cray had been enjoying a recent return to profitability. CEO Pete Ungaro noted that he was "disappointed" with the delays that put both growth and profitability "in jeopardy."


Cray is complaining about delays & the consequences of that delay & not the type of processor !

None of you guys out there know what AMD had promised CRAY about deliveries of CPUs.

In such cases ROADMAPS dont count rather contractual obligations between the companies.

There is no obligation to stick to your roadmaps-you can delivery to market before scheduled date or delay it further.

But when/if your are bound by contract to deliver on/by a

certain date/schedule & you fail to do so,then ofcourse you

put both growth and profitability "in jeopardy." of the

company to recv your CPUs


The SECRECY firewall of AMD is creating more problems than

protecting AMD.


By Nil Einne on 6/11/2007 4:32:42 PM , Rating: 3
Actual, Cray is simply saying that the product is coming later then they had expected. Whether AMD promised anything to Cray that they didn't deliver on is unknown. Perhaps Cray was just to optimistic, who knows? The simple fact is we have no idea what AMD promised Cray as you rightful pointed out and assuming that AMD promised something to Cray which they didn't deliver as you are suggesting is silly.


RE: Wall Street went into panic this morning ?
By CyborgTMT on 6/6/2007 1:30:42 PM , Rating: 4
Funny how you left out one part of the article....

Those of you interested in this kind of stuff will want to note that Cray won't be using the Barcelona chips in the XT4s. The systems will run on the lower-end, latter Budapest chips.


By crystal clear on 6/7/2007 3:59:23 AM , Rating: 1
I only quote a portion of the article & ofcourse provide the link/source of the story.

Its up to you to click on the link & read the whole story & draw your OWN conclusions.

I dont shape/influence opinions rather just bring the story up on the site for "strictly information purposes".


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