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Hardware Toshiba Gets Cozy With AMD Turion
Brandon Hill (Blog) - May 29, 2007 9:03 AM
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Toshiba to use AMD processors in its notebooks

AMD processors are starting to find their way into more and more PCs around the globe. Last year, PC giant Dell announced that it would begin shipping PCs with AMD processors inside. Since that time, the company has shipped desktops, servers and notebooks which use Athlon 64, Turion, Sempron and Opteron-based processors.

Today, #4 worldwide PC manufacturer Toshiba announced that it too would be adding AMD processors to its stable. The company said that it will use AMD processors in 20 percent of its business and consumer notebooks.

"With PCs becoming commodity products, there seems to be a new way of thinking that competition should be introduced even in procurement of such core parts like processors as long as there are no major differences in product specifications," said Yoshihiro Shimada, an analyst for Macquarie Securities.

Toshiba's first notebooks to use AMD processor will roll off the assembly line during the summer and will cost as much as $82 USD less than their Intel counterparts.

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The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By GrandMareg on 5/29/2007 9:23:16 AM , Rating: 5
This is the first good news I've seen AMD have in about a month. Lets hope it keeps up.




RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By Griswold on 5/29/2007 10:05:01 AM , Rating: 4
Then you must have missed this bit, which is probably the other good news for AMD this year:

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=pr2007_0...

60% rise in opteron sales in Q1.

No surprise news like this is flushed into oblivion by the other bad news, but its good news nonetheless.


RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By ncage on 5/29/2007 10:29:01 AM , Rating: 3
Yes i agree good news for AMD but i don't think a smart idea for toshiba. Am i Anti-AMD? Far from it. Before the core2 duo i had all amd since my p3-733 but amd is just not at intel level in lappies when it comes to battery power. Maybe they will have better luck with the new lappy processor they are coming out with in the future.


RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By Goty on 5/29/2007 10:48:03 AM , Rating: 2
AMD is very competitive with Intel when it comes to power consumption in laptops while not under full load. Not that that helps a whole lot, but it's still there.


RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By Justin Case on 5/29/2007 1:59:57 PM , Rating: 2
Not that it helps? So your laptop spends most time with the CPU at 100%? :-)

But unfortunately for AMD, Intel's mobile CPUs have very low idle consumption. It's on desktop and server CPUs that AMD has an advantage there. Griffin might extend that to laptops, but it remains to be seen.

Right now, Intel is nearly always the best choice for laptops. On the desktop, Intel has the high-end, but the rest is evenly matched. For an "office" type PC, I'd definitely go with AMD. For a laptop, not likely.


RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By Goty on 5/30/2007 8:35:07 AM , Rating: 2
"A whole lot" was the qualifier there. If I'm not using my laptop to do something, it's usually off.


RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By PsYStuMmY on 5/29/2007 10:48:10 AM , Rating: 4
performance wise for a laptop, of course intel's c2d is much better. however for as much as $82 less per laptop compared to a laptop with an intel processor in it, it could sway a customer to save the extra money for a little sacrafice in performance. who knows, maybe they are referring to $82 less then a celeron branded laptop lol.


By Belard on 5/29/2007 5:47:45 PM , Rating: 1
Keep in mind... the C2D CPU is faster than a AMD64, but its not like how the AMD slammed the P4 into the ground.

Most people are NOT buying Intel C2D systems. They are buying lower end models - thinking "intel" first. And Intel has renamed their P4-Netburst chips to "Dual Core" with model #s that seem like C2D chips.

In some benchmarks, AMD64 is faster than C2D - but for most people - the difference is minimal for Everyday stuff. Email, Word processing, web browsing.


By PsYStuMmY on 5/29/2007 10:48:11 AM , Rating: 2
performance wise for a laptop, of course intel's c2d is much better. however for as much as $82 less per laptop compared to a laptop with an intel processor in it, it could sway a customer to save the extra money for a little sacrafice in performance. who knows, maybe they are referring to $82 less then a celeron branded laptop lol.


RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By jak3676 on 5/29/2007 10:41:48 AM , Rating: 2
Who are the manufacturers left that are exclusive with Intel? I can't think of any off hand.


RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By PsYStuMmY on 5/29/2007 10:49:43 AM , Rating: 2
i think the only one left is sony, but cannot be 100% sure on that.


RE: The sun beginning to shine on AMD?
By FITCamaro on 5/29/2007 12:05:02 PM , Rating: 2
Sony's laptops are overpriced anyway. Their entire PC/notebook line is. They used to have nicer screens but even that advantage is gone.


By Lightning III on 5/29/2007 12:53:17 PM , Rating: 1

Hey what about 690g chipset it's still King of IGP.

Am I the only one who noticed the no fanfare Nvidia 7050 launch that came up short performance wise to the 690G

];P>

It should be an attractive alternative for OEM's

regards


By GlassHouse69 on 5/29/2007 11:56:59 PM , Rating: 2
I would have to agree here. they are charging like, 2002 pricing in 2007. people really dont see the need to spend 2500 dollars on a midgrade eye candy machine. Their screens are still nice but others have great screens now as well for 1k less.

toshiba used to make some nice laptops, but year by year all these things seem to change. I have a compaq laptop with a p1 133 in it. The screen is active matrix, works still, was like 3k+ dollars when it first came out. now, a new compaq compared to that? ew. i mean true they can be bought for 700 dollars now, but still, year to year quality isnt really there anymore. after the thinkpad/ibm years, all seems kinda crappy ever since.


By chsh1ca on 5/29/2007 8:57:55 PM , Rating: 2
Apple.


By hannibal da mekanikabull on 5/29/2007 8:00:29 PM , Rating: 2
"This is the first good news I've seen AMD have in about a month. Lets hope it keeps up."

AMD has been all over the news the past month, just nothing worthwhile to show for it. mostly Barcelona coverage, which is several months away. Its a tough year for them.


actually
By sprockkets on 5/29/2007 10:41:00 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe they kissed and made up because Toshiba was very resistant to the subpoena AMD gave them for the anti-trust trial.




RE: actually
By Treckin on 5/29/07, Rating: 0
RE: actually
By Munkles on 5/29/2007 4:58:26 PM , Rating: 4
I like the positive words about Vista. I grow very tired of people attacking the OS, where mostly its just people being resistant to change.


Interesting
By FITCamaro on 5/29/2007 12:06:46 PM , Rating: 2
Especially considering I've seen AMD based Toshiba products for a few years. A friend of mine had a Toshiba notebook with an Athlon in it 2 years ago.




RE: Interesting
By FITCamaro on 5/29/2007 12:29:44 PM , Rating: 2
Heh. 15 minutes after I make this comment they add the word "Turion" to the article heading.


Funny thing about Dell Servers
By Obujuwami on 5/29/2007 10:39:46 AM , Rating: 2
About 3 Months ago, I tried to order a Opteron based server from Dell only to find that the Opterons ONLY come in the high end server products; all other products were Intel based systems. On top of what I looked at online, the Dell represenitive on the phone told me that they only sell AMD chips on thier notebook and desktop products, not thier server.

Needless to say, i think Toshiba put AMD right next to Intel and let the customer decide with direct "bang-for-buck" comparison. Its fair and it lets people make the choice, not the manufacturer.

*please, no AMD or Intel fanboydom*




By lumbergeek on 5/29/2007 2:58:08 PM , Rating: 1
Your first mistake was trying to buy from Dell - their salesmen tend to be "push what's most profitable and deny the rest" types. Want a server? Buy a Proliant or something - far more reliable. AMD-Intel, doesn't matter. I root for the little guy, but my primary system at home right now is a C2D. Last one was an Athlon. The tides come and go....


No Core 2 == No sale.
By SiliconAddict on 5/29/2007 9:35:18 PM , Rating: 2
WTF is up with manufacturers? 3-4 years ago they were pretty much giving Intel virtual blows jobs with half assed processors. Now when Intel is finally starting to kick some CPU ass they go with AMD. Frankly at this point I won't buy a laptop without a C2D in it.




Intel > AMD
By maroon1 on 5/29/07, Rating: -1
RE: Intel > AMD
By mars777 on 5/29/2007 10:35:36 PM , Rating: 3
Compared to a Lamborgini a Lotus is not terrible. It's just that the Lamborgini is better.
Tha attitude you took in your post seems the usual fanboy trolling, which occurs very often at daylitech these days.


RE: Intel > AMD
By akenaton on 5/30/2007 9:18:41 AM , Rating: 2
The problem here is the lamborgini is reasonably priced. By the way I am an AMD fan (currently using an AMD Athlon) but facts are facts, I would be stupid to buy an AMD processor over an intel core processor.

So yeah at the moment: "Intel>AMD", I hope that AMD comes out with something even better than core so the market contines to develop further.


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