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Xbox 360 ban message detailing the user's violation of Microsoft terms of service. (Source: Xbox-Scene)
Microsoft's Xbox 360 now able to sniff out illegitimate copies of games

More than a year has passed since the release of the Xbox 360 DVD-ROM firmware hack to allow the play of backup games and bootleg copies. Those with hacked firmware had the ability to play copied games, mostly burned onto dual-layer DVD recordable discs, even online Xbox Live.

For a while, it seemed that such firmware modifications were undetectable by Microsoft – but that appears to have all changed with the latest Xbox 360 system software released last week.

Word came from the Xbox 360 hacking community that the Spring Update may have the ability to detect those who were playing copied games. More specifically, the system software would be able to determine the legitimacy of the disc in the DVD drive, not necessarily targeting any specific method of modification.

As a pre-emptive measure, hackers released updated disc drive firmware introducing various features, such as disc jitter, in an effort to further the exploit. Such efforts, however, appear to be all for naught, as report on Xbox-Scene indicates that Microsoft is now banning from Xbox Live users with modified DVD-ROM drives, regardless of firmware version.

The banning measures appear to have started alongside the release of the Halo 3 beta, perhaps in what is best described as a crackdown on Crackdown bootlegged copies that contained Halo 3 beta access. Just as it did during the original Xbox days, Microsoft is permanently banning modified consoles from connecting to Xbox Live, but not the user account.

Microsoft acknowledges its new initiative with an entry in its Gamerscore Blog: “As part of our commitment to our members, we do not allow people that we have detected to have modified their console to connect to Live. This is an important part of our efforts to try and maintain a fair gaming environment for the large majority of gamers that play by the rules. This topic is more important than ever given the recent release of the Halo 3 beta.”

The blog continues, “As a result, some consumers that try to login to Live who we detect have illegally modified their console will get an error code (Status Code: Z: 8015 - 190D) when trying to connect to the service. These users will not have their account automatically banned from LIVE, but they will no longer be able to access the service from the console they modified. We have stated in the past that customers can only enjoy access to the Xbox LIVE community through the use of a genuine, unmodified, Xbox console and we will continue to enforce this rule to ensure the integrity of our service, the protection of our partners and the benefits of our users.”

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By jadedeath on 5/18/2007 11:38:43 AM , Rating: -1
Get over it.

I've yet to see ANYONE make that statement and actually back it up without looking like a complete moron.

If your copies are so "Fair Use" then don't go on X-Box live with them, it's pretty simple.


By rdeegvainl on 5/18/2007 11:52:13 AM , Rating: 1
NO YOU! lol.
My copies are fair use, so i should be able to go on xbox live with them if i want. The point is to have a backup copy for when the original fails. That would mean that when the disc gets scratched by say, a bad disc drive, or my neice for messing with my games when they come over, i would take my fair use copy and still be able to play the software i payed for. That is what a backup is for, to be used just like the original. So i guess i just backed up my statement, do i look like a complete moron?
good day sir.

By GreenDay on 5/18/2007 3:25:26 PM , Rating: 1
Logan you self-righteous SOB...!
What did you mommy spank you a little too hard when you were a child...! That is a legitimate question, what if you do buy a DVD/XBOX game and you want to back it up and play from the backup. Once you have bought a CD/DVD then you own the rights to that CD/DVD and it is then legal for you to create a backup for YOUR OWN personal use. Check the laws before you shoot your mouth off and make a comment, it simply says you cannot make copies for profit. If you have paid for an XBOX game then you have paid your dues and you should be able to make a backup copy and put your original away. Where it becomes illegal is if you then take the game back to the store or sell the game and keep the copy and continue to play it.
Microsoft should have done their homework and issued serial numbers for each game disk sold. Yes you will get piracy and cheating but just like EverQuest and even as far back as Diablo II this has happened and if you try to register a duplicate CD key then it simply stops you. If in fact it is a genuine game that you have just purchased then you can take it back and get a new one. No, this is not fool proof but for the most part it works.

By bigredk001 on 5/18/2007 7:48:37 PM , Rating: 2
I have to agree, the simple solution would be for Microsoft to implement a cd key verification system where you enter in a cd key provided with your game into your Xbox Live account. Those who would like to play their game on Xbox Live therefore will pay to get a legitimate key, and allows the legal fair use of making a backup.

The main reason companies don't want customers to make backup copies is because they know that if the disc gets damaged, the customer is "forced" to purchase a new copy. That increases sales and revenue. Yes, there are these insurance "schemes", but why should we pay extra for a right that we already have. Companies also don't like customers selling their cd keys for games they no longer play to new customer, because the company has already made it's money from the key. The company doesn't care if a cd key only gets used for a few weeks before the person no longer plays the game.

By rdeegvainl on 5/20/2007 10:04:10 PM , Rating: 2
I'll try and use small words for you also. cause you have a hard time understanding rights.
People have a RIGHT to back up the media they paid for. Though maybe actions can be taken to stop bad thing before they happen(had to rewrite that a few times to get the words small enough for you Logan) you still have a right to make a backup copy for things you either can't prevent or haven't thought of. not everything can be thought of ahead of time. that is why we have the "fair use" right to make the back up.
But i am just glad we have jadedeath (who seems pretty concerned that we know his name is logan) to tell use not to use or practice our rights, instead of following his rulings. thanks pal for all you do for the individuals rights.

By Screwballl on 5/21/2007 12:46:25 AM , Rating: 1
Hows this for you logan?

I buy a car, I own it. I make whatever modifications I want to it and Chevy cannot tell me to NOT do it.
I buy a house, I own it. The government cannot tell me that I can't add an extra room to it (provided it is within the property I legally own).
I buy a printer, I own it. If I want to print receipts for a Dell computer on it, HP cannot stop me.
I buy a Stanley screwdriver, I own it. The Stanley company cannot tell me that I can only use Stanley brand screws or shave some off the tip to fit smaller screw heads.

We are not paying to rent the game permanently. We are paying to own the game/program/application and make backups of our media which is known to scratch. "They" know it is a disc and will scratch, they expect people to pay for the same game 3 or 4 times when the disc is unplayable due to damage. They want this because they make more money.

I do not agree with piracy and believe there is a better way of data verification than blocking anyone who has used their fair use rights. This is why I do not own console game systems anymore. This is also why I buy games that allow open ended programming, map making and other methods of user creation that involve editing or use of the original coding.

Why is Counter Strike so popular? One word: MODIFICATIONS

By jadedeath on 5/21/2007 1:27:23 AM , Rating: 1
You can't really compare any of those things to something that you AGREE to go on a service with an unmodified system.

but if you want me to poke holes in your logic, all you had to do was ask.

Chevy can't tell you that you can't make certain modifications, but there's a large difference between modifying your car for street and modifying your car for racing, if you modify it for when it's on the street and you go too far then the Government {not Chevy} will step in and bust you on it.

Actually if you owned property, you'd know that the government CAN in fact step in and tell you what you can and cannot add to your home by way of extra rooms or add-ons to the building that you already have. They're quite asses that way.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you want to make copies you're free to do so {did you catch it that time? If not here we go} If you want to make copies you're free to do so... BUT, just don't use said copies on Xbox Live and you should be golden. Modify your Xbox however and you're on your own as you've not only invalidated your warranty but you've also screwed yourself on Xbox Live.


By MightyAA on 5/21/2007 5:22:00 PM , Rating: 2
They didn't say you can't modify it. They said you can't modify it and still play on their network (but you still could play single player). You still have a choice.

You could modify your Chevy too, but if the track you want to race on doesn't allow modified cars, you will also be out of luck. They own xbox live, you don't, so they can make any rules they want....

By rdeegvainl on 5/21/2007 7:19:20 AM , Rating: 1
Are you argueing that you have an inherant right to assault someone? cause if that is your arguement you have some serious issues. That arguement holds less water than a rusted out gas tank.

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