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The new 50-inch PDP5080XD
Plasma displays take another revision for the high-end

This week high definition TVs based on plasma technology receive a big boost in quality and performance thanks to newly developed technology by Pioneer. One of the primary concerns these days with flat panel TVs -- and other displays for that matter -- is the ability to produce rich, deep and dark blacks. LCDs have always had a problem with blacks as their backlights are on all the time as long as the display is turned on.

Since the battle between LCDs and plasmas started, plasma screens always held an edge over LCDs because each pixel on a plasma screen is self emitting, generating its own light. Despite this, many plasma screens still produce black levels that are off due to low grade electronics and other factors. Pioneer is introducing what it calls the eighth generation plasma TV, giving audiences blacks that are 80% darker than anything currently available.

Using what Pioneer calls "deep encased cell structure, crystal emissive layer and first surface color filter," its new screens boast a contrast ratio of 20,000:1.

According to Pioneer, "with significantly deeper black levels (80% deeper than before), which ultimately lead to richer colours and sharper details, the new screens are unrivalled in video and audio performance."

Pioneer will be featuring the new ultra black technology in a series of TVs it calls "Project KURO" -- kuro meaning "black" in Japanese. The lineup will include 42, 50 and 60-inch screen sizes supporting full 1080p resolutions. As of right now, no prices have been revealed and Pioneer only indicates that the new units are "coming soon."

LCD panels will soon receive a major change themselves in the form of LED backlighting. Apple announced earlier last week that all of its LCD screens will be based on LED backlight panels by the end of 2007.

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RE: Spoiled
By bhieb on 5/9/2007 10:09:57 AM , Rating: 2
Honestly how much better does it need to get. HD is already so clear and crisp on my older 50" plasma it is too real. They picture quality is incredible. Are we that spoiled that we are in need of something better?

Don't get me wrong I am all for the new stuff as it makes the horrible looking 1080i sets dirt cheap!

I just don't get the whole 1080p push. I have a 100" front projection at 720p and it looks amazing in HD (nothing brodcasts in 1080p anyway). If I was buying a new one then I would probably go to 1080p, but why upgrade? My suggestion if you feel that you have to have the latest upgrade, take a trip over to grandma's and watch a little standard def over the air crap. When you get home you should be cured of your "need" for better quality.

RE: Spoiled
By masher2 on 5/9/2007 10:28:48 AM , Rating: 1
> "Are we that spoiled that we are in need of something better?"

It's the same urge that, millions of years ago, first prompted us to put down our clubs and climb out of our caves. Yes, a dry hole and a raw hunk of mammoth meat is "good enough" to live on; do we really need anything better?

I have a 103" 720p projector in a light-controlled AV room. It looks amazing..but only compared to a standard TV. Compared to reality,its a far cry. Black levels look good...only until you compare them to the real black of the crushed velvet screen border. Then you see they're really light grey. Text looks long as its not small, or doesn't move very quickly. Color rendition is excellent...unless you project a few still photos, and see how much they deviate from the real thing.

Honestly, we've all been staring at screens so long we've forgotten the little 'mind trick' we use to immerse ourselves in a video stream that, by objective standards, really shouldn't fool anyone into "being there". But with better technology, one day that trick may not be needed. Wouldn't that be a good thing?

RE: Spoiled
By 91TTZ on 5/9/2007 12:08:19 PM , Rating: 2
Don't get me wrong I am all for the new stuff as it makes the horrible looking 1080i sets dirt cheap!

I just don't get the whole 1080p push. I have a 100" front projection at 720p and it looks amazing in HD (nothing brodcasts in 1080p anyway).

I have a CRT HDTV that natively displays 1080i, and the picture quality is amazing at that resolution. There is a very noticeable increase in picture quality going from 720p to 1080i. My friend has a 720p LCD TV, and on his, 720p looks better, probably because the scaler doesn't do a very good job scaling a 1080i broadcast. But his TV doesn't look nearly as good as mine. Not even close.

RE: Spoiled
By bhieb on 5/9/2007 1:06:24 PM , Rating: 3
I agree and disagree. Sure your TV is probably better, but "not even close". Come on I am betting 50% of the population can't tell the difference. Hell I can barely get my wife to tell the difference between DVD an VHS when it first came out.

Also yes moving from a rock cave to a house is a good thing. But this is more like moving from a 5000 square foot home to a 5100 square foot home. Sure it is better and a "good thing", but once you already have 5000 square feet of home how much differnce does another 100 make?

And yes it is a good thing (in fact a great thing) the closer to reality the better. And of course it is a personal decision everyone has to make as to when to upgrade.

RE: Spoiled
By leexgx on 5/9/2007 9:39:23 PM , Rating: 2
720p vs 1080i , the 720p is norm better quality then 1080i (unless its 1080p then that win out but that requires alot of bandwith thats why not much is brodcast in 1080p or 1080i)

some of this link is an little bit of an rants (it allso do not think its been updated for an bit but its fine) but he does state what the downside of useing the Interlaced format to the Progressive system

RE: Spoiled
By masher2 on 5/9/2007 9:49:13 PM , Rating: 2
> "the 720p is norm better quality then 1080i..."

720p is better for fast-motion video-- sports events, action movies, etc.

1080i is better for slow video-- news, documentaries, travelogues, and your average drama. Though honestly, the difference between them is rather small.

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