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The PSX, not to be confused with the codename for the first PlayStation
New PlayStation in 18 months, claims Sony source

With PlayStation 3’s time on the market closing in on only six months, there are already talks of the next versions of the console. According to a vague source cited by Australian web publication Smarthouse, a new console it names as PlayStation 4 is less than 18 months away.

Rather than being an entirely new console, the device will supposedly include the same architecture as the current console but with a new drive bay and attachment area. The new box is said to also include extensive software suite for the managing of content being streamed to a TV or Hi Fi source.

It appears that these updates to the current console aim to position the machine as more of a home entertainment hub rather than as a games machine. “We have even looked at a Sony home server based on PlayStation technology. This would allow consumers to connect home automation devices to the Sony server while also delivering online gaming and access to an extensive movie and music library,” said one Sony source.

The report also ties in comments made by the soon retiring Sony chairman, Ken Kutaragi, who spoke on his plans for PlayStation 4, 5 and 6. “As a matter of course, I have the vision of PlayStation 4, 5 and 6, which will merge into the network,” he said.

“The design concept of the Cell processor is the network processor.” Kutaragi said, adding that the network environment now makes his visions for a net-based games console possible. Although the PS3 hardware still has a long road ahead of it, Kutaragi could be hoping for future PlayStation generations to be compatible with the Cell processor to create the supercomputer network that Sony has boasted about.

It seems unlikely that the new PlayStation will be named with the numeral four, at least not within the next four years; but based on Sony’s comments and the shift that high-end machines are moving into the home entertainment space, a  newer, differently positioned PlayStation box is possible.

In fact, Sony has already made such a product with the PlayStation 2. Released only in Japan, the PSX was a general home media center based on PlayStation 2 hardware with digital video and DVD recorder functionality. The PSX was a product under Sony Corp. instead of Sony Computer Entertainment, further reflecting the different position of the device.

The PSX was released in Japan on December 13, 2003, but never saw the light of day in other territories due to poor sales projections.



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Unrealistic
By deeznuts on 5/3/2007 2:56:38 PM , Rating: 3
The original article and source are pathetic. If it's not an entirely new console why would it be called PS4? I would think that name would be reserved for a new arch. Think about it, they named that japan release PSX, not PS3.




RE: Unrealistic
By bighairycamel on 5/3/2007 3:19:32 PM , Rating: 2
Well the source itself seems bogus. Maybe this is a reputable source in Austraia, but I have never heard of it an can't imagine an obscure source like this would get the first information on a new system. I think it's bogus until way more sources become available.

On a side note, that pic looks like it could be a sony standalone Blu-Ray player based of the playstation engine. That would be something I could see happening, maybe to compete with dropping HD-DVD player prices.


RE: Unrealistic
By kextyn on 5/3/2007 3:25:59 PM , Rating: 2
Look closer. That is a pic of the PSX. If you look at the full size you will see it says "Playstation 2" on the bottom right.


RE: Unrealistic
By mezrah on 5/3/2007 3:50:05 PM , Rating: 1
Wow...it's just a picture of the PSX...not this supposed new console.


RE: Unrealistic
By creathir on 5/3/2007 4:25:42 PM , Rating: 2
Not to be... picky... but the article does not include that picture. That is just a stock photo of the PSX. DT prob. just decided to use this photo...

- Creathir


RE: Unrealistic
By protosv on 5/3/2007 8:41:07 PM , Rating: 2
I think it just lists that logo as one of a stream of logos on the front that tout its broad compatibility with media from all those sources. I don't know if that means it is a PS2. I see a PSOne logo to the right of it as well...


RE: Unrealistic
By NainoKami on 5/3/2007 9:55:55 PM , Rating: 2
True, but can you see a mention of PS3 anywhere on the box? It's a PSX based on PS2


RE: Unrealistic
By noirsoft on 5/4/2007 2:54:37 PM , Rating: 2
Not to metion the "PSX" written/engraved on the top of the box.

I saw PSX units when I was in Japan in 2005, and this looks exactly the same. No mystery.


RE: Unrealistic
By peldor on 5/4/2007 9:03:14 AM , Rating: 2
They might change the name because they want to dissociate it from the failure that is the PS3. What else can you call it when you go from about 70% marketshare with the PS2 generation to <20% (with no signs of improving) with the PS3?


It's true
By mcsnet on 5/3/2007 3:00:36 PM , Rating: 5
Look for Sony to deny the upgrade until 2 weeks before the Japanese launch. Then they'll hire a slut to lick it for a photo opp.




RE: It's true
By deeznuts on 5/3/2007 5:08:26 PM , Rating: 1
But if they include a goat everyone will focus on the goat instead of the slut!


RE: It's true
By deeznuts on 5/3/2007 5:09:10 PM , Rating: 2
But if they include a goat everyone will focus on the goat instead of the slut!


Smarthouse is retarded
By Nakamichi on 5/3/2007 3:56:12 PM , Rating: 2
Why the hell are they naming it Playstation 4. It's would be more appropriate to name it PSX 2 or PS-Y. This is more of the successor of PSX (not the original Playstation), instead of Playstation3.

If this bombs like PSX, they can name it PlayStation-Wii-60 and no one else in the world, besides Japan, will know or care.




RE: Smarthouse is retarded
By rockyct on 5/3/2007 9:11:35 PM , Rating: 2
They aren't naming it the PS4.


RE: Smarthouse is retarded
By Bladen on 5/4/2007 4:57:02 AM , Rating: 2
PS3X would be better.

Or maybe PSXX.

We all know the more x's the better. That is why the XXX industry is doing so well.


RE: Smarthouse is retarded
By nekobawt on 5/4/2007 3:06:51 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know, I think PSpi has a nice ring to it.


Bad News for PS3 sales
By othercents on 5/3/2007 3:29:09 PM , Rating: 1
Granted 18 months is still a long ways away, but if I was in the market for a new console and I had not made a decision between the Wii, PS3, and 360, I would definitely rule out buying a PS3 now. This is the exact same reason why I haven't purchased a Wii yet. I want the newer Wiis that are supposed to release over the summer with the DVD player built into it.

We know every console maker is looking at coming out with newer equipment in the future, but for Sony to announce a new product while the PS3 is trying to get momentum is a very bad marketing technique. The Wii can get away with it since basically everyone owns a DVD player (mine broke).

Granted if I was a Sony fanboy then this announcement wouldn't deter me, but that would also mean I would already own a PS3.

Other




RE: Bad News for PS3 sales
By Smoza on 5/3/2007 7:38:50 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Granted if I was a Sony fanboy then this announcement wouldn't deter me, but that would also mean I would already own a PS3


Sony haven't "announced" anything. This is mere unsubstantiated rumour from a supposed insider.

Moreover I'm not sure how reliable this source is so I wouldn't put too much faith in the accuracy of this story.


RE: Bad News for PS3 sales
By encryptkeeper on 5/4/2007 11:46:37 AM , Rating: 2
This is the exact same reason why I haven't purchased a Wii yet. I want the newer Wiis that are supposed to release over the summer with the DVD player built into it.

Don't count on the Wii having DVD capability, at least not in the US. It's not necessary for a Wii to have one, since it's a forgone conclusion that anyone who wants a Wii already has a dvd player. I say don't count on it in the US as the latest articles have said they are only considering it, and then only considering it for Japan. Besides, why hold off on buying a Wii for 250 because you're waiting on them to install DVD functionality? You can't afford 30 bucks for a dvd player?


How can you believe a VAGUE SOURCE !
By crystal clear on 5/4/2007 6:33:44 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
According to a vague source cited by Australian web publication Smarthouse, a new console it names as PlayStation 4 is less than 18 months away.


If thats the case then there is no point writing this article.
There are plenty of other topics to write about.

How can you believe a VAGUE SOURCE !




By crystal clear on 5/4/2007 6:52:15 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Next PlayStation Version Could Arrive Sooner Than Expected


quote:
New PlayStation in 18 months, claims Sony source


These titles are misleading-YES you could WRITE -

RUMOURS ABOUT THE NEXT PS ??????


Is it just me?
By MADAOO7 on 5/3/2007 3:08:02 PM , Rating: 5
Is it just me or when he's says
quote:
"I have the vision of PlayStation 4, 5 and 6, which will merge into the network"
all I can think of is the Terminator, with the end of the world happening once "Skynet goes online".....lol




This isn't new news is it?
By Cobra Commander on 5/3/2007 3:20:14 PM , Rating: 3
I could swear this media-oriented PS3 was known-information way back when (2-3 years ago)!? It was visibly-different and was projected to cost around $1000.

???




RE: This isn't new news is it?
By jtdwab on 5/4/2007 7:38:14 AM , Rating: 2
I remeber other articles on a home media version of the PS3. I did some hunting and found an article back in Dec 2006. Predicted cost of around 1000 using the PS3 hardware but meant more as a rack component than a gaming machine. Wish I could find a good reference probably one on this sight if I hunt long enough.


but will it be different?
By Comdrpopnfresh on 5/3/2007 2:51:38 PM , Rating: 2
Will the cell processor in this playstation 4 have the die shrink?




RE: but will it be different?
By mars777 on 5/4/2007 12:20:27 AM , Rating: 2
afaik the cell is allready at 65nm


Cool...
By Snuffalufagus on 5/3/2007 4:04:34 PM , Rating: 4
they're turning it into an XBOX360 with media center functionality!




Why would we need a more expensive PS3?
By therealnickdanger on 5/3/2007 2:59:36 PM , Rating: 1
I thought the current PS3 could turn all my dreams into reality with its mighty power and suite of hardware!

Sounds to me like Sony just wants to release a PS3 that can fit in with other home theater equipment... and charge 2K for it, of course.




By EclipsedAurora on 5/9/2007 10:19:15 PM , Rating: 1
Becox that's how true console lover play with their console, and that's something PC games never can offer!

AV lovers won't care the spend $2k more to get a "HiFi" class console!


pc?
By nOcLuE98 on 5/3/2007 3:23:32 PM , Rating: 2
How bout just buy a media pc, build it yourself, cost about 500 bucks, and keep your gaming system that you already play?




This is b/s
By alland on 5/3/2007 4:31:14 PM , Rating: 2
They should get some decent games before they start upgrading the hardware




I like the idea
By ninjit on 5/3/2007 5:11:04 PM , Rating: 2
That PSX is pretty nice, it's a DVR and a PS2, shame it never made its way over to the US, I would have bought one.

I think a well done box-type device based on the PS3 would do well. It would fit in perfectly with a Home Theatre setup (i'm imagining it to look like a big Onkyo 7.1 DTS receiver).
And as long as they used good quality components, a high price would be justifiable, since it would replace your DVD/BD player and your DVR, in addition to being a network media player and of course game machine (which will be a tertiary feature for a box like this).

People already mention the cost of standalone Blue-ray players as justification for the price of the PS3 - the complaints rise from its price as a gaming machine (a bit steep), but as an integrated HT component with the ability to play multimedia files off a home network... they could price it even higher.

In terms of aesthetics too, a sleek black box would look cleaner on the shelf in a bachelor-pad than the current curvy PS3 casing.




Would it be too crazy ...
By meewok on 5/3/2007 5:16:46 PM , Rating: 2
Would it be too crazy for Sony or some third party team "sponsored by Sony" write an app to provide MS Media Center Extender functionality on the PS3? They can offer it as a download on PSN.

It seems to me that it would be in Sony's best interest to do this. I mean, why try to re-invent something that seems to be working pretty well and have a good install base? It could possibly improve the sales of their console. (I mean, in addition to having more than 5 games available).

After that, they can change the form factor all they want, right?

Well, I guess Sony isn't really a proponent of interoperability with other vendors... Nevermind, then.




Unreliable source
By Emma on 5/3/2007 7:27:37 PM , Rating: 2
I live in Australia and have never heard of this site.




lol
By medavid16 on 5/3/2007 11:28:13 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone actually believe this ? haha




By BladeVenom on 5/4/2007 3:34:23 AM , Rating: 2
“We look at our products having a 10 year life cycle, which we’ve proven with the PlayStation. Therefore, the PlayStation 3 is going to be a console that’s going to be with you again for 10 years.”

“We’re not going to ask the consumers to suddenly buy another PlayStation console in five years’ time and basically have their investment go by the wayside.”

--Kaz Hirai




HEY OH
By logaldinho on 5/4/2007 4:41:45 AM , Rating: 2
is it just me or does that look like the old xbox in a shade of white and gray? what are all the sony fans going to do now that they cant make fun of how clunky the xbox was?

LOLORORL WHOS BOX IS BIGGER NOW PLAYSTATION FANBOYS AMIRITE?




So Simple ......
By crystal clear on 5/4/2007 7:05:43 AM , Rating: 2
Take this comment of mine below-give it a good write up-
quote it as FROM some Sony insider/source etc & bingo you have a article.

Portion of the comment-

6)Too much of emphasis was placed on hardware in the PS3.
adding more or upgrading hardware will not contribute to performances and add to cost.So the next alternative will be developing software that will exploit the true/full potential of the hardware in the machine.

7)The emphasis will be on the "CELL" whose potential was not exploited in its full in PS3.
The processing power & graphics will be further developed.
Here IBM will enter as partner for software development with
many more (other) partners contributing to this objective.

8)One can safely assume in 2 years time game developers would have plenty of games out for PS3 & cost of components or hardware fall drastically from the production of PS3.
Taking advantage of the 2 factors all he does is add on the software developed.

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7120&...




I think....
By Munkles on 5/4/2007 9:39:22 AM , Rating: 2
Sony and MS should adopt a naming system based off the graphics card manufacturers.

Xbox 360 core - Xbox 360gs
Xbox 360 Premium - Xbox 360gt
Xbox 360 elite - Xbox 360gtx
Xbox 360 (next revision) - Xbox 360gtx ULTRA

PS3 20gb - PS3 pro
PS3 60gb - PS3xt
PS3 (next revision) - PS3 XTX KICK YOU IN THE FACE EDITION




LOL
By S3anister on 5/6/2007 11:49:08 PM , Rating: 2
SONY'S DOING TO ITS SERIES WHAT SEGA DID TO THE SATURN... LOL.

SEGA GENESIS = AWESOME
SATURN = ROFL'D ON BY PS1 AND NINTENDO 64
DREAMCAST - EATEN BY POOR SALES OF SATURN

now rinse and repeat with sony's playstation seris... except lol seriously PS3 going to PSX or whatever monkier they want to use. FAIL.




By corduroygt on 5/3/2007 3:56:31 PM , Rating: 1
Take the PS2 ($129), add 250gig hard drive ($50), add Anti Aliasing chip for better looking graphics ($10), add nic ($10), include a wireless controller, and compile the xbox media center app for ps2, sell it as ps2 elite for $199 to hold people off till they can afford a ps3.




..
By IceTron on 5/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: ..
By AnotherGuy on 5/3/2007 4:14:02 PM , Rating: 2
lol that just doesnt make any frikin sense sorry


Server
By gramboh on 5/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: Server
By Goty on 5/3/2007 3:11:04 PM , Rating: 2
Why not? It sounds basically like and AppleTV that plays games. If they released it at a decent pricepoint, which isn't entirely unrealistic considering the timeframe, I would think it might sell relatively well for the niche it would fill.


RE: Server
By FITCamaro on 5/3/2007 3:46:06 PM , Rating: 1
I think people would and already are. The Playstation 3 is perfectly capable of this kind of functionality in its current form. You run Linux on it, a version of MythTV can be ported to that version of Linux (if it even needs to be), and you could use a USB IR sensor so you can use a media center remote. You couldn't record TV on it but you can definitely play content back from an networked computer.

Honestly this is one of the few things drawing me to the PS3. Sure theres a few games coming out for it I want, but with me not giving a rats ass about Blu-ray, the only added value is to use it as a media center front end. But I don't have $600 to blow on a games console right now which is what it is (or at least, should be) first and foremost.


RE: Server
By robertgu on 5/3/07, Rating: 0
RE: Server
By FITCamaro on 5/3/2007 8:02:47 PM , Rating: 1
Or just continue to use my hacked Xbox 1.


RE: Server
By corduroygt on 5/4/2007 1:15:49 PM , Rating: 2
Bingo! That's what I did.
I admit though if the PS2 had the same amount of hackability, I'd have bought it instead of xbox 1.


RE: Server
By bpurkapi on 5/3/2007 10:15:50 PM , Rating: 1
Problem with that setup is that requires another piece of the puzzle. If you don't have a PC spend $800 to get one, and if you have a pc but no vista spend $200 to get it. The goal should be to make the unit independent of a PC. That is the real difference between what Sony wants to do and what Microsoft already does. Microsoft wants to link its vista os on your pc, your xbox 360, and your Microsoft Zune. So in total that costs you $800 for pc, $350 for the xbox, and $250 for the Zune. $1300 and Microsoft stock soars; you have just fueled Microsoft and given Bill Gates some more money to give away in his endowment. Point is that you really don't save money if you don't have a pc to begin with and that is the market that sony is trying to tap.


RE: Server
By OrSin on 5/4/2007 10:22:52 AM , Rating: 3
Vista not needed at all. Also if you only want the 360 for the media center, then get a used one off ebay for $200 or less. RIght now all I do with my 360 is stream from my PC and alomsot never play games. I'm not huge sport or FPS fan so 360 dont hold my attention like PC games, just me dont flame me :)

Right now the 360 is the cheap eastest to setup media extender. If you dont mid modding the xbox 1, it should work as well but thats not an out of the box solution for the average joe.


RE: Server
By darkavatar on 5/3/2007 11:30:06 PM , Rating: 3
Well, some people might not want to go though all the hassle with installing linux & MythPC and then (gasp!) programming their own remote control.
I could and I can, but I'd won't mind spending a little extra to get out-of-box HTPC functionality if the price is right. And that's where the market is.

Come to think of it, PSX is just ahead of its time. A HTPC that can play PS2&PSone games, how cool is that!! Heck, it might even oversell the PS3 now if it was launched at the end of 2005....


Nice Design....
By phaxmohdem on 5/3/07, Rating: -1
RE: Nice Design....
By Flunk on 5/3/2007 3:35:57 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe that's because the PSX came out in the early 00's. Read the article, don't just look that the pictures.


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