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Latitude D420

SanDisk's 32GB SSD drive will also be available for $549 seperately
Dell jumps on the SSD bandwagon

Dell is jumping into the solid-state disk arena today by offering 1.8" SanDisk UATA 5000 drives on its Latitude D420 ultra-mobile and Latitude D620 ATG semi-rugged notebooks.

SanDisk's 1.8" SSD drive was first announced in early January and features patented TrueFFS flash management technology. Also of importance is the drive's MTBF of 2 million hours. The drive offers sustained read speeds of 62MB/sec and had an average access speed of 0.12 milliseconds. The drive also boosts overall system performance by 23 percent and reduced boot times by 34 percent on the D420 and D620.

"A solid state drive is an excellent storage technology for our mobile users," said Dell CTO Kevin Kettler. "We are committed to leading the industry in delivering these new drives and will offer them across Dell’s next generation of Latitude products."

"This represents an important milestone in the evolution of personal computers with the arrival of solid state flash memory as a durable, efficient alternative to the hard drive, said SanDisk CEO Eli Harari. “For those enterprise road warriors who rely on their notebook PCs, hard drive crashes with attendant loss of critical data will soon be a thing of the past. We’re delighted that Dell has chosen the SanDisk SSD to launch this technology into their line of mobile PCs."

The SanDisk UATA 5000 is currently available as a $450 option on the D420 and a $300 option on the D620 ATG. The drive is also available direct from Dell at a price of $549.



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A Bold Statement or Truth?
By wrekd on 4/24/2007 4:21:17 PM , Rating: 4
SanDisk CEO Eli Harari says,
quote:
For those enterprise road warriors who rely on their notebook PCs, hard drive crashes with attendant loss of critical data will soon be a thing of the past.


And SanDisk also claims a

quote:
MTBF of 2 million hours.


Loss of critical data will be history huh? So the OS (20GB for Vista) will or will not be on the SSD? Or is the OS supposed to go on a traditional HDD and your critical data goes on the SSD. Considering it is only 32GB to begin with I question the claims being made here. Are there that many laptops (and batteries) that allow for multiple internal drives?




RE: A Bold Statement or Truth?
By therealnickdanger on 4/24/2007 4:28:29 PM , Rating: 3
First off, I've got Vista Ultimate and it only consumes 12GB. Second, most mobile pros will be sticking with XP Pro or Tablet for a while yet, so the footprint would be much less. Third, the reduced size, weight, and power consumption could lead to "RAID" becoming a common laptop feature. SSD currently consumes a 2.5" bay for the sake of compatibility, the day is coming where four 128GB SSDs could easily reside in a single 2.5" slot.


RE: A Bold Statement or Truth?
By Storkme on 4/24/2007 4:33:22 PM , Rating: 3
'it only consumes 12GB'.


RE: A Bold Statement or Truth?
By codeThug on 4/24/2007 7:46:33 PM , Rating: 1
my reaction as well.

I noticed the Microsoft "Tools" out there wasted no time mod'ing you down.


RE: A Bold Statement or Truth?
By dice1111 on 4/24/2007 9:26:35 PM , Rating: 2
WTF? I have no idea why you were moded down either. 12Gb is way to much space in my book too.


RE: A Bold Statement or Truth?
By wrekd on 4/24/2007 5:45:37 PM , Rating: 2
Yes 20GB was too high for the OS, I apologize.

But the Dell offer I looked up is only a single 32GB drive and Vista is an option. Let’s not forget about office suites, antivirus, vpn clients and such. And of course there are future service packs.

As far as your "the day is coming" comment; this thing is a real product today that asserts data loss is ancient history not some future RAID-5 wishware.


RE: A Bold Statement or Truth?
By MuskBassist on 4/24/2007 6:15:39 PM , Rating: 2
"office suites, antivirus, vpn clients and such" would likely take up less than 1GB of additional space (Office 2007 Enterprise is less than 500MB installed). Without the need to store large amounts of music files, video files, and games, 32GB is fairly adequate for a notebook hard drive.


RE: A Bold Statement or Truth?
By thomodachi on 4/28/2007 6:24:11 AM , Rating: 2
You guys should really read up on solid state drives before making your comments. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive:

"A Solid State Drive (aka SSD or Solid State Disk ) is a data storage device that uses non-volatile or volatile memory to store persistent data instead of conventional hard disk drives....nonvolatility allows flash SSDs to retain memory even during sudden power outages, ensuring data retrievability."

"With no moving parts, a solid state drive eliminates seek time, latency and other electro-mechanical delays and failures associated with a conventional hard disk drive."

That is what they meant by data loss can be a thing of the past.


WTF
By Jeff7181 on 4/24/2007 6:15:32 PM , Rating: 2
PATA interface? Why are we going back in time?




RE: WTF
By dice1111 on 4/24/2007 8:41:23 PM , Rating: 2
It's just a more popular interface atm. Esp. with laptops.


RE: WTF
By sprockkets on 4/25/2007 1:32:14 AM , Rating: 3
No, all new laptops have the SATA interface and even mini pcie cards in them.


RE: WTF
By Mudvillager on 4/25/2007 7:13:07 AM , Rating: 2
Ultraportables like the D420 mentioned always comes with 1.8" PATA HDDs.

But yeah, it sucks that they can't go over to a serial connection on the thin lappies.


Rad.
By therealnickdanger on 4/24/2007 4:23:09 PM , Rating: 2
While certainly not mainstream yet, being available through Dell is a HUGE step in the right direction.

I love Dell's pricing. If you buy a $1,200 laptop, you can get the drive for $450. If you buy a $2,500 laptop, it can be yours for $300. Such is life...

How long before this drive is $20?




RE: Rad.
By GaryJohnson on 4/24/2007 5:35:17 PM , Rating: 2
My guess, based on the time it took for traditional hard drives to reach similar costs/per gigabyte:

Between 2012 and 2014.


RE: Rad.
By dice1111 on 4/24/2007 8:40:22 PM , Rating: 2
Lets hope early adoption and popularity speed that date up a bit. Anyone have a review of these drives out yet?


RE: Rad.
By TravisO on 4/25/2007 10:12:52 AM , Rating: 2
No, neither for this nor Samsung's hybrid drives (they have a 32mb SSD buffer) and I've been keeping an eye out for them.


By vze4z7nx on 4/24/2007 6:34:02 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't Dell supposed to be all about cheap computers and cheap upgrades? I sure think so.

So now, why is Dell introducing a $400 upgrade?




By on 4/24/2007 7:38:43 PM , Rating: 2
Not quite. Dell offers a cheap base computer, and then makes their profit margins on upgrades and peripheral sales.


By Mudvillager on 4/25/2007 7:15:15 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Not quite. Dell offers a cheap base computer, and then makes their profit margins on upgrades and peripheral sales.

Quoted for Truth.


Slightly Confused
By JLL55 on 4/24/2007 4:58:31 PM , Rating: 2
There are many things I am kinda confused about. Is this SSD going to be RAID 1? OR is it going to suppliment the hard-drive (tandem)? Secondly, the article says that data loss is the thing of the past, basically, doesn't SSD suffer data loss too?

I am a little new to SSD technology so please help!

thx!




RE: Slightly Confused
By bernardl on 4/25/2007 1:21:19 AM , Rating: 2
- The SSD will be the main and only mass storage device of these laptops, it will therefore replace the HD normally used.
- There will be no RAID configurations avaiable that I am aware of.
- SSD are said to be less likely to suffer dataloss because they are less prone to physical failures (shocks,...) than HD. This is reflected also by their higher Mean Time between failures.

Regards,
Bernard


Hmm...
By daftrok on 4/24/2007 4:31:06 PM , Rating: 2
I really wish they would have gone with the 2.5" 32 GB SSD instead of the 1.8". Its faster and cheaper according to DailyTech. This may also explain why Dell is giving the option to use Windows XP instead of Vista: space limitations on these SSD. Hopefully the sales of SSD will go down and soon we will be able to go up to dual 32 GB SSD drives for the price of one.




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