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Jack Thompson believes violent video games made Cho Seung-Hui cause absolute carnage on the Virginia Tech campus on Monday

The tragedy that occurred at Virginia Tech on Monday is one that many of us will remember for a long time.  Cho Seung-Hui, 23-year-old V.T. English major, took more than 30 lives before turning the gun on himself.  While the nation is still feeling the aftershock from the worst school shooting in U.S. history, some people are already beginning to exploit the tragedy for their own benefit.  

It is no secret that video games seems to have become a popular scape goat for everything that is wrong in America's youth today -- the incident at Virginia Tech is already having a negative backlash towards video games. In fact, Jack Thompson, well known for his anti-video game stance, went on Fox News to argue that violent video games had something to do with the shooter at V.T.

Even if you are against young people playing violent video games, it is most likely hard to defend Jack Thompson in this situation.  Instead of showing remorse and grief, much like the rest of the nation, Thompson decided to selfishly attempt to use the tragedy to rally Americans against violent video games.

More video game critics are coming out of the woodwork after Thompson made his statements on Monday.  It appears that Dr. Phil McGraw also believes video games desensitize and cause gamers to commit violent crimes.

This is certainly not the last we have heard of the anti-video game people.  If you want to hear what Thompson said, click here (YouTube video).

Our thoughts go out to everyone in the Virginia Tech/Blacksburg community.


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RE: Something to consider.
By zombiexl on 4/19/2007 7:40:52 AM , Rating: 5
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Butut consider this...fifty years ago, guns were considerably more common in society, yet such attacks were far less common.


Consider this..
1) There were less people crowding each other out.
2) Children were allowed to be disiplined without the threat that the govt was going to take your kids for smacking their ass.
3) The prisons were not overflowing with drug offenders, keeping real criminals on the streets.
4) We over diagnose questionable mental illnesses like ADD & ADHD (goes back to not being allowed to discipline your kids) and under diagnose real mental issues. I find that these diagnosed kids generally have a good attention span for things they are itnerested in doing (video games, etc), just not things they dont feel like doing.


RE: Something to consider.
By novacthall on 4/19/2007 8:39:41 AM , Rating: 3
A very interesting post, zombiexl.

I've debated this point with countless individuals ad nauseam. The fact of the matter is that, ultimately, a stable mind is more than capable of handling the apparent rigors of playing a violent video game, watching a violent movie, or reading a violent book. Giving a disturbing video game to a troubled child is akin to giving a budding white supremacist his own very copy of "Mein Kampf". If the mind is willing to accept an idea, ideal, or concept, the content absorbed will invariably affect the individual deeply.

The vast majority of us qualify as "stable minds". I speak from experience that violent video games have had no effect on me (I directly attribute my inherently good aim with a firearm to the fact that I am male, and consequently practice my aim several times a day, water consumption permitting). When I was young, and had difficulty separating fantasy from reality, as many young boys, my parents restricted my access to games that would otherwise have a negative effect on me. My parents had the money, and therefore had the power to control very closely what I played. My parents (seeing a trend, yet?)made it clear to me that while some of my friends might have had certain games, I was not to play them and they told me why. They turned the whole thing into a learning experience, and I believe I'm better for it.

I realize that every child is different, but I think your second and fourth points are dead on the money. Multiple times, I was accused (and that really is the best word for it) of being attention deficit by teachers who simply could not be bothered to deal with an active young male. In every test, the accusation was dropped because I was able to read an engaging book or play an engaging video game for eight hours on end. Similarly, if challenged, there was no end to my focus in the classroom. Years ago, they had a different name for ADD and ADHD: they called it "BOYHOOD". That said, I have met some truly hyperactive children, but the population nowhere near the epidemic proportions that the public education system seems to believe.

I truly believe that the systematic drugging of our young males is having a detrimental effect on society as a whole. You're finding that less males are finding their way to higher education. Less males are taking on leadership roles. Sloth and complacency seem to be more commonplace than they were ten or twenty years ago. It may be a simple correlation and I understand that correlation does not indicate causality, but it correlates nonetheless.


RE: Something to consider.
By zombiexl on 4/19/2007 9:32:56 AM , Rating: 2
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A very interesting post, zombiexl.

Thanks, I honestly thought i'd get rated down.

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Multiple times, I was accused (and that really is the best word for it) of being attention deficit by teachers who simply could not be bothered to deal with an active young male.


I'm pretty sure schools get additional state and federal funding based on the numbe of ADD & ADHD kids attending.

Back when i was younger the medicine for acting up was discipline. Not Oh Johnny if you keep doing that I'm going to send you to your room (with your plasma, 360, ps3, cellphone, computer, etc).

One reason I have a room in my house dedicated to toys and games for my kids is so they dont have that stuff in their bedroom's. But then again I also discipline my children and take an interest in what they are doing, or want to do. I also will smack their rear ends when needed. To satisy the extreme "dont beat your kids" crowd i'll mention that I also discuss with them what they did, why they are in trouble and why they did what they did.

If anything is to blame its the overly passive attitude of today's parents and society in general. Although I dont think anyone but the gunman is to balme in this case.


RE: Something to consider.
By geddarkstorm on 4/19/2007 3:39:01 PM , Rating: 2
I have to agree, this is a good post with very good points.

Children do need disciplin and parental guidance. A parent has far more sway over a child than anyt other adult or person. We can see this both in the reflection of obeying parents and gaining their morals, as well as the opposit of rebeling against parents because the child wants more attention from the parent or what not.

Also, you are very right about over diagnosis of highly questionable "mental illnesses" like ADD/ADHD. I am the oldest of 6 kids, so I've already had to help raise three considerably younger siblings. Children are naturally hyper. Heck, children of most mammalian species are naturally hyper and lacking in attention! You wouldn't try to train a foal to be a show horse at that age, in general it wouldn't pay attention or want to. This has firm grounding in the biology of the brain, which is still developing in children and through the Teen years: creating new neural connections, testing connections, trying to find the right balance of neural transmitter ratios, and still killing off immproperlly connected neurons. This process takes alot of effort and "play" on the brain's side of things, which is manifest in an obviously lower ability to concentrate in those below the state of adulthood. It's friggin simple biology; I'm not even sure there is even that much foundation for ADD & ADHD scientifically (and the "extreme" cases of it turn out to be autism/aspergers anyways). I know what a real brain disorder is though, as two of my brothers have/had them (one had chemical imbalances that make him overly agressive and vicious but they were corrected as he grew up out of it (mostly), the other has autism, and even autism is quite similer to "normal" except they communicate and perceive differently, albiet only slightly differently).

And then, what does it do to the developping mind to shoot it full of chemicals it isn't supposed to have? I feel our overreliance on drugs will be the Roman Lead Pipes of our modern age.


RE: Something to consider.
By Christopher1 on 4/19/2007 4:17:00 PM , Rating: 2
Now, I agree with most things there except the second one. There is NO reason to hit a child in order to 'discipline' them. I have two daughters and have NEVER had to do that, because 99% of the things that they do that are 'wrong', they did not know that they were wrong in the first place so why should I physically punish them for that?
That just teaches them that someone can violate their bodies if they think they have done something 'wrong' that they did not know was wrong.

I have absolutely NEVER had to physically discipline my daughters, simply because I taught them from VERY early that it was not right to physically attack someone else and when they broke something or did something 'wrong', I simply told them why it was wrong and told them that the next time if they did it, they would be punished. I can count on one hand the number of times where I had to punish them, because I didn't punish them if they cam to me and ADMITTED they did something wrong on their own and could explain to me why they did it and learn from that.
Actually, 9 times out of 10 when they broke something, they were goaded into it by ANOTHER child who already knew that the thing they were trying to get my daughters to do was wrong, and therefore I took those children to their parents and had them punish their children for instigating the thing in question.

We are overdiagnosing ADD & ADHD. I was diagnosed with those 'illnesses' when I was young and my parents now realize, after watching my daughters and me REFUSING to put them on mental drugs, that what I was doing was NORMAL childhood behavior for our family!

The drug offender thing..... we would do better to just legalize drugs and treat drug users who get hooked (there aren't many of those!) as a public health issue, not a criminal justice issue.

Less people crowding each other out..... that is not the real problem. The real problem is that people today are not learning how to RELATE to other people, because their parents basically imprison them in their homes because of the specter of the 'big bad pedosexual' grabbing and raping their children, of which I happen to be one and shake my head when I see the blatant propaganda that is put out about us because people don't try to get to know us and believe everything the media says about us!
Personally, I would NEVER grab and rape a child, that would tarnish my soul and spirit in the extreme.


RE: Something to consider.
By zombiexl on 4/20/2007 9:10:09 AM , Rating: 2
You said:

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Now, I agree with most things there except the second one. There is NO reason to hit a child in order to 'discipline' them.


and then:

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The real problem is that people today are not learning how to RELATE to other people, because their parents basically imprison them in their homes because of the specter of the 'big bad pedosexual' grabbing and raping their children, of which I happen to be one and shake my head when I see the blatant propaganda that is put out about us because people don't try to get to know us and believe everything the media says about us!


So you believe its wrong to physically discipline a child, but not wrong to have sex with one? If i've misread that please correct me.


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