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Toshiba HD-A20
Toshiba offers "low-cost" 1080p player

Toshiba has announced the availability of its new HD-A20 HD DVD player. The player was first shown earlier this year at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas and was projected to have a price tag of $599 -- instead the HD DVD player will be priced at $499.

Toshiba's HD-A20 supports full 1080p resolution unlike its cheaper HD-A2 brother which only supports up to 1080i. Unfortunately, the HD-A20 doesn't feature the HDMI 1.3 interface found in Sony's BD-1200 or PlayStation 3 and instead relies on HDMI 1.2. Without HDMI 1.3, the HD-A20 misses out on xvYCC support, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio and automatic audio syncing. In order to get HDMI 1.3 on an HD DVD player, you'll have to step up to the $799 HD-XA2.

Sub $500 players which support 1080p are few and far between these days. Besides the HD-A20, there's also the $499 USD 20GB PS3 -- the only problem is (1) the 20GB PS3 is extremely hard to come by and (2) it has been discontinued by Sony. Microsoft's $199 HD DVD drive supports 1080p over VGA and when paired with a $299 Xbox 360 Core comes in under $500.

Toshiba also announced that is has sold over 900,000 HD DVD titles to date and promises that 70 more titles will be released between now and July 2007. The company is also talking up its promotion where anyone who purchases a new Toshiba HD DVD player can receive five HD DVD titles for free. Despite the excitement from Toshiba over HD DVD, it looks as though the Blu-ray standard is putting up quite a fight.



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RE: A little help, please....
By retrospooty on 4/12/2007 9:56:24 AM , Rating: 3
The PS3 is a console, and most people that want to watch high def movies are not interested in dealing with the UI of a console to do so. I do not.

If you want to compare apples to apples, compare a blue ray player vs an hd-dvd player. hd-dvd comes out much cheaper on all counts.


RE: A little help, please....
By Yeah Yeah on 4/12/07, Rating: 0
RE: A little help, please....
By nerdboy on 4/12/2007 10:42:51 AM , Rating: 3
Actually alot of people the watch HD movies don't like gaming. Since you not reading any one elses post you find that you get 9 free movies if you buy the player so you get more bang for buck with HD player. So you may miss out on playing the 3 titles out for the ps3 that is worth playing but big fucking deal. And there is no UI for a damn VCR you hit a god damn play button. Look at this amazing piece of technology so hard to use. How does it work, oh you just put it slot and press play. They couldn’t set the clock because the technology illiterate and there was no learning curve a retard could do it. Your so called rant was pointless and show how ignorant you are. People like you are reasons why I think there should be an IQ test for everything. Driving, Having Kids, ect...


RE: A little help, please....
By armagedon on 4/12/2007 10:53:13 AM , Rating: 2
what's wrong with you this morning ? You didn't get your milk in time ? What is it with that aggressiveness ? are you 15 years old or what ?
Retrospooty is mostly right. People with full blown living room audio-video setup do not give a damn about a game console. They are buying HD-DVD for watching movie, period. All the "older" folks which are buying that equipment do not play game and don't have the slight interest in that. They just don't write in these forums too.


RE: A little help, please....
By d0gb0y on 4/12/2007 11:04:19 AM , Rating: 2
I know someone who bought the PS3 to only use as a Blue-Ray player. The wife couldn't stand using the controller to start a movie. They took it back and bought an expensive player just for ease of use. I don't blame them.


RE: A little help, please....
By deeznuts on 4/12/2007 12:53:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
know someone who bought the PS3 to only use as a Blue-Ray player. The wife couldn't stand using the controller to start a movie. They took it back and bought an expensive player just for ease of use. I don't blame them.

They do sell a remote for $25 ($15 for new GCO customers), so go ahead and blame them:
http://www.buy.com/prod/sony-playstation-3-blu-ray...

And about the UI of the PS3, if you don't do absolutely anything but play games, there is no UI. Turn it on, put in the disk, and at most you hit one button, x on the remote. Sometimes (I don't really pay attention) if it is already on the video portion, it just plays automatically.


RE: A little help, please....
By retrospooty on 4/12/2007 12:00:18 PM , Rating: 5
"So basically, people that watch HD movies don't like video games? I am not interested in dealing with your stupidity"

uh... no. People that are interested in both, should buy a console. People that are interested in a standalone 1080p player are not choosing between a PS3, or Xbox with hd-dvd add on, they are choosing between the Toshiba HD-DVD player lineup (expensive)and sony's Blue ray player lineup (rediculously expensive).

I for one, dont want a PS3 or Xbox. I want a high def movie player for my 1080p TV, one that fits horizonally in my entertainment center and comes with a remote control.


RE: A little help, please....
By deeznuts on 4/12/07, Rating: -1
RE: A little help, please....
By masher2 (blog) on 4/12/2007 1:14:58 PM , Rating: 2
> "The PS3 can sit horizontally "

Not with other equipment on top of it, as most people stack AV gear. It also uses far more power than a standalone player, lacks an extension port, and has significantly less image quality than my HD-A2 when upscaling standard DVDs. Even on HD discs, I give the A2 the edge..though its hard to make an apples-to-apples comparison, as I'm looking at different films each time.

Do I need more reasons I don't have a PS3 in my AV room? Seriously, comparing a console to a standalone player is a bit silly. If you don't intend to play games on it...buy a standalone.


RE: A little help, please....
By retrospooty on 4/12/2007 2:02:17 PM , Rating: 3
"The PS3 can sit horizontally and you can buy a remote. So what's the real reason you don't want it? It's obviously not those two"

ugh... yes, I must have a hidden reason that I do not want to buy a PS3, lay it horizontally and buy a separate remote control just to watch movies. What must I be thinking.

I won't buy any of it until its down below $300.


RE: A little help, please....
By CorrND on 4/12/2007 3:48:30 PM , Rating: 2
You've almost got your wish: pricegrabber is showing the Toshiba HD-A2 going for $311. Another couple weeks and I think it'll be below $300! Can't wait until this fall when it's expected to be around $200.


RE: A little help, please....
By mrteddyears on 4/13/2007 4:40:40 AM , Rating: 2
Is it me or is that people just don’t get the point that not everyone wants a games console to watch movies. I have made a personal choice that as a European I will never buy a SONY product again while I walk this earth and I will never use a games console to watch movies.


"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it." -- SCEA President Jack Tretton

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