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With no immediate pressure from the competition and a healthy mainstream product lineup, there is no reason for NVIDIA to rush new cards out to the market

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In talks with industry insiders at CeBIT I was able to confirm that NVIDIA's upcoming mainstream DX10 G84 and G86 cards would have been ready in time for a CeBIT launch. NVIDIA, however, decided to postpone the launch to April 17th for various reasons.

I wouldn't put much doubt in the quality of the chips of the cards at this point, since reputated video card manufacturers confirmed to me that these are up and running. MSI was already able to show custom designs of G84 and G86 based retail cards, not reference cards. On top of that, various companies exhibited notebooks equipped with the mobile variants dubbed G84M and G86M, running all day long under Windows Vista without a crash.

After all, the PCB for GeForce 8600 on down is based on the stable GeForce 7600-series line, which was already a derivative of the GeForce 6600-series layout. The only component that would need any fine tuning at this point is the GPU -- and that's been stable for months.

One possible reason is the recent delay of AMDs R600 generation to the second quarter of the year. There is no pressure from the competition to rush out the cards to the market. Instead NVIDIA can lean back and happily sell current GeForce 7 mainstream cards. Meanwhile their GeForce 8 mainstream cards based on G84 and G86 are in production. Basically NVIDIA is preparing for another hard launch.

According to industry sources I've talked to, NVIDIA will be able to deliver enourmous amounts of those cards when they launch - they will basically flood the whole market.

If you talk to the AMD crowd, however, you get other reasons, which are also somewhat realistic. Apart from various problems with the hardware, NVIDIA would delay the launch as long as possible to have a working driver ready. The current state of G80 drivers is not at the level of quality one would expect.

Though AMD may be suffering from rather low yields on TSMCs 65nm process, it decided to employ the new process on the upcoming R600 chip family, even on the largest high-end chips.  This approach may put ATI ahead technically, but it's risky with regard to the fact that NVIDIA can put massive quantities of older components at lower prices on the market very quickly.

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By Nimbo on 3/23/2007 7:56:25 PM , Rating: 2
$200 in my pocket since last month only waiting for this... but probably high availability will keep prices close to mrsp

RE: waiting
By Alpha4 on 3/24/2007 12:28:06 AM , Rating: 2
You are a trooper for holding out, I will say that much. But do u not have an existing geforce 7 card u can improve upon with a twin for cheap cheap?

RE: waiting
By irev210 on 3/24/2007 8:41:51 PM , Rating: 2
I think this is a dumb move personally.

I want a new graphics card for my media center PC. I am NOT going to buy a 8800 variant.

All I really need is HDCP compliant card, and if it has an HDMI connector on it, that would be a big plus. Since I dont mind waiting, I will get my choice of nvidia or ATI, and will probably end up picking the ATI solution since it will likely be on 65nm process, thus having a better chance of using less power.

Regardless of the future, the fact is nvidia is losing sales now.

Oh well, should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

RE: waiting
By Hoser McMoose on 3/26/2007 2:35:02 AM , Rating: 2
You aren't the only one waiting! I just picked up a new motherboard, processor and memory, but held off on the video card waiting for these GeForce 8600 cards. For now I'm making due with integrated video! I don't do much gaming normally, but for now that is reduced to NO gaming as the integrated video is worse then my old Radeon 9200! Even 3 year old games are pretty much unplayable!

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