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"Torrenza" systems will accept both multi-core, accelerators, or "Fusion" processors
AMD sheds more light on accelerated processing projects

This week at CeBIT 2007, AMD revealed more details about its "accelerated computing" platform, codenamed Torrenza. AMD's goal behind Torrenza is to create a platform where application-specific processors can interact cost effectively and offer better performance than a general purpose CPU, while remaining compatible with off the shelf platforms.

AMD guidance revealed this week that future processors will also have integrated "accelerators" embedded into them. A Torrenza system will have at least two sockets, and both will accept accelerators and accelerated CPUs.

One accelerated-processor project on AMD plate, slated for 2008 under the codename Fusion, and combines a dedicated GPU or GPU accelerator onto the same package or even the same silicon die as the main CPU. AMD has already set the ground-work for Fusion processing with its Stream Computing initiative -- utilizing ATI-based graphics adaptors for heavy number crunching. 

Other Torrenza ready projects are also coming to light.  Clearspeed announced its CSX600 math-coprocessor plug-in last year, with the stated intention of creating a socket plugin version for Torrenza.  Los Alamos National Labs is currently building the world's fastest supercomputer, Roadrunner, with Opteron and Cell processors on the Torrenza platform.

Torrenza is not just locked within the compounds of the CPU sockets. According to AMD, Torrenza systems will accept accelerators in a PCI-Express interface too, allow for multiple application specific accelerators to access system memory and processor functions directly.  Mercury systems announced a PCIe plug-in accelerator late last year.

While Torrenza is well on its way to seeing daylight, Intel is also working on its own open architecture platform. Notorious for keeping its CPU platform a closely guarded technology, Intel indicated that it was working on a competitive technology to AMD's HyperTransport, dubbed CSI, allowing direct CPU and memory access.

Intel guidance suggests the company will announce its Torrenza competitor sometime in mid-2008.

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By Darkskypoet on 3/18/2007 7:27:22 PM , Rating: 5
No its not.

Seriously, Intel has a lot of its 'mojo' from its design / implementation prowess. Taking tech from an 'inferior' firm after downplaying pretty much every tech brought forward from said 'inferior' firm hurts that image.

However not having any response to the currently available, and shipping HT tech (allowing for other firms to create chips to drop onto Opteron boards) leaves Intel out of a new and growing market. Thats not fanaticism!

I am saying the question is which does more damage: Waiting for another year plus to have a standard to bring to market, thus letting HT gain mind share and development dollars. Or, simply adopting the HT spec, thus giving AMD more legitimacy.

Neither is desirable vs Intel having had a competing standard 2 years ago.

(I am starting to become amused by your consistent down rating of decent posts. You really ought to stop attaching fanboyism / fanaticism to any post you for some reason do not seem to like)

Intel has lost ground, this is not speculation. Or are you unaware that AMD server market share has been growing? Especially in terms of 4 and >4 socket implementations.

Are you also unaware at the industry support now behind AMD HT, something that even 4 years ago would have been almost impossible due to AMD's lack of Server penetration. Sigh.

zsdersw please do not read any Intel is dying, etc. crap into my posts. Relative change in position between the two companies has been favoring AMD.

This necessarily shows Intel as losing some of the immense power it had relative to AMD in the past. HT, is part of this. Or are you saying it is not?

By zsdersw on 3/18/2007 7:40:24 PM , Rating: 1
First, I cannot rate your posts down because I've participated in this story's comment section.

Second, I am not addressing the question of image. I was addressing your apparent belief that Intel will necessarily lose market share whether they use HT or their own technology; that there is no hope for Intel to either increase market share or hold what they have.

Third, don't raise issues that I'm not arguing with you about.

By Darkskypoet on 3/18/2007 10:30:16 PM , Rating: 2
Well then, as I am new here, I apologize. As I am not a neophyte, I also realize the existence of multiple accounts per IP is allowed, so I am not going to pursue that any further.

Secondly, I am not saying will, or won't. I am saying have, and is still happening. Nor am I saying that they cannot take back market share, or that there is no hope. Please, quote the no hope wording from the post. I am saying that they are losing, and are behind in this venture because they have nothing comparable out.

I am saying quite clearly that to adopt HT after maligning AMD tech so much is bad for image, and secondly that coming to market so late hurts the initial uptake of this technology by other CoPU vendors.

Either way, adopting late, or coming to market late hurts market share. This should be elementary. I fail to see how "no hope" is read from that statement.

There is a reason AMD is losing enthusiast market share, because Barcelona is late. If I, aparently an AMD fanatic, am building C2Ds for myself, and clients, (left, right and center) obviously in the market in which I dwell, C2D is the leading chip. However, if AMD had Barcelona right now, it would be a much more difficult choice.

Since it isn't; we can see what happens when you come to market late with a competitive technology. You lose market share. Thankfully in this case for AMD, it is much simpler to create a CPU that doesn't rely on massive industry support for success. Whereas a new platform (like an HT competitor) requires such support, and as such needs more lead time to again become competitive, and to be developed for.

(For your benefit, more lead time, and more time in general does not equate to "no hope". Just wanted to clarify that)

By Viditor on 3/19/2007 9:17:07 AM , Rating: 2
When your posts are absent of any balancing good news on the Intel front, the tone of your posts quickly becomes one of anti-Intel, pro-AMD

Or it a post that is correct...often times there IS no balanced good news from Intel or AMD (that we know of...).

By zsdersw on 3/19/2007 10:13:47 AM , Rating: 1
There's always a way to balance it out.

By gonchuki on 3/19/2007 12:30:22 PM , Rating: 3
may be it's me, but i see it balanced taking into account that he states and remarks AMD's fault for being late in the market with Barcelona.
You are just trying to obscure things and point your own fanatiscism with those comments.

By zsdersw on 3/19/2007 2:39:08 PM , Rating: 1
That is the only example of balance.

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