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SanDisk's 32GB 2.5" drive to be priced at $350

Back in early January, SanDisk introduced its 32GB 1.8" SSD UATA 5000 for notebook computers. The Flash SSD drive promised sustained reads of 62MB/sec and a 2 million hour MTBF. Today, SanDisk has announced the 2.5" SATA version of the drive.

"The SanDisk 2.5-inch SSD brings the extreme durability, outstanding performance and low power consumption of solid-state flash memory to the entire notebook computer market," said SanDisk VP Amos Marom. "As SanDisk continues to drive innovation in flash memory, the per-gigabyte price of SSD storage will come down and SSD capacity will go up. PC manufacturers and consumers will find it easier and easier to move away from rotating hard disks to the superior experience of SSDs."

The 2.5" version of the drive is slightly faster than its 1.8" sibling. It features sustained reads of 67MB/sec, has an average access speed of 0.11 milliseconds and can boot Windows Vista Enterprise in 30 seconds. This compares to 62MB/sec, 0.12 milliseconds and 35 seconds respectively for the 1.8" drive.

The 32GB 2.5" SSD SATA 5000 is available now for systems builders and is priced at $350 each for volume orders.

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By daftrok on 3/13/2007 3:04:36 PM , Rating: 3
I like the sound of this. $350 is much more appealing than $600 and the drive is faster! And no adapter needed! SWISH! I hope people start buying this so the price can go down even more for us cheap consumers!

RE: Nice!
By caater on 3/13/2007 3:06:35 PM , Rating: 2
$350 ?
bye raptor.
/me smells pricewar..
imagine those PQI and other guys coming..
i like

RE: Nice!
By ButterFlyEffect78 on 3/13/07, Rating: -1
RE: Nice!
By Wonga on 3/13/2007 3:33:09 PM , Rating: 2
DDR/DDR2 is volatile memory.

RE: Nice!
By SexyK on 3/13/2007 3:33:35 PM , Rating: 2
Except that DDR and DDR2 are volatile which makes them pretty much useless for this type of application. Dont expect these drives to be faster than HDD's anytime soon (in terms of data transfer speed).

RE: Nice!
By PolPot on 3/13/2007 5:15:40 PM , Rating: 4
Not faster than hard drives anytime soon? I submit that 62MB/s sustained over the entire drive IS faster than nearly all current hard drives. Some may have higher rates in the outer edge of the platter, but as an average of outer and inner, I'd bet few can sustain much more than 62 MB/s. Then factor in ultra low seek time and any fragmentation and these look faster.

RE: Nice!
By PolPot on 3/13/2007 5:18:20 PM , Rating: 2
Ok, so the Raptor has 88MB/s max, 55MB/s min according to Average is not much higher than 62MB/s. And again, factor in the access times.

RE: Nice!
By regnez on 3/13/2007 5:38:39 PM , Rating: 2
Also factor in noise and power consumption, or lack thereof for the SSD.

RE: Nice!
By hubajube on 3/13/2007 6:12:33 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder how much a 3.5" version would cost?

RE: Nice!
By livelouddiefast on 3/13/2007 9:38:16 PM , Rating: 1
hopefully sometime in the not too distant future everything will drop down to 2.5 inch... save some space after giant video cards

RE: Nice!
By nurbsenvi on 3/13/2007 9:57:44 PM , Rating: 2
Good idea

RE: Nice!
By KernD on 3/13/2007 10:40:12 PM , Rating: 2
What's the point for desktop? your DVD drive is almost 6 inches wide, so the PC isn't gonna really get any smaller, but you would have less capacity in your hard drive, is that what you really want?

You might want to start by using a 3.5 inches removable storage drive, that would make a difference, anyway with high density disc like holographic storage, it's the right time to change the size since you would still gain allot of storage space with a smaller disc.

RE: Nice!
By alienbibin on 3/13/2007 11:01:59 PM , Rating: 2
I totally agree with u. Its time to change the size of the removable media. The 12cm discs are a little large by today's standards. Why not mage it an 8cm disc or still smaller....

RE: Nice!
By pcmatt1024 on 3/14/2007 10:32:04 PM , Rating: 2
why not even a 5.25"? i understand with regular hdds, rotating that large of a disk is a problem. but with these that problem won't exist.

RE: Nice!
By mindless1 on 3/15/2007 3:58:46 AM , Rating: 2
The 62MB/s speed is very suspicious, that it coincides with a realizable throughput over ATA66 technology. This leads one to wonder if either:

A) The flash could've done more if it wasn't ATA66 tech kludged to an SATA output.

B) It's not really 62MB/s, it would be akind to saying USB2 has 480Mbit/s sustained *on paper*.

The real question is not one of whether it's 62MB/s though, we can't really expect that to matter much because to realize much difference isolated from other system bottlenecks it would depend on very large files with limited processing, a target application where 32GB is still a bit limiting and in other apps, that $300 price premium over a mechnical 32+GB HDD buys a lot of DDR2/3 memory which for caching purposes on smaller files, still destroys it performancewise. Remember that the best performance from any hard drive is to not use it, no matter solid-state or mechanical it's still the bottleneck to many tasks if any file is read more than once per system power cycle.

RE: Nice!
By treesloth on 3/13/2007 5:55:30 PM , Rating: 2
Idunno... I wouldn't say useless...

Their Hyperdrive system is pretty awesome and sexy as hell. Of course, it's also well outside most folk's price range, but a guy can dream, right?

RE: Nice!
By wien on 3/13/2007 3:43:28 PM , Rating: 1
DDR drives? I certainly won't buy a drive based on volatile memory, and I highly doubt anyone will try to create one for the mass market. Not as a serious alternative to hard-drives at least.

RE: Nice!
By GaryJohnson on 3/13/2007 4:43:58 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Nice!
By cheetah2k on 3/13/2007 8:48:43 PM , Rating: 2
I have a pair of I-Rams in RAID 0 (4Gb + 4Gb) and i boot XP in under 4 seconds.

Try and beat that with any current hard drives out there.

RE: Nice!
By wien on 3/14/2007 10:41:04 AM , Rating: 2
I know they exist, which was why I qualified my statement with "for the mass market". Those i-Ram drives are anything but.

RE: Nice!
By livelouddiefast on 3/13/2007 9:40:02 PM , Rating: 1
blah blah... ram is volatile...

what if we got to a point where hard drives were so fast ram was completely unnecessary? This is possible, think, though correct me if i'm wrong

RE: Nice!
By AnnihilatorX on 3/14/2007 9:03:48 AM , Rating: 2
$350 each for volume orders .

Sign me up!
By Golgatha777 on 3/13/2007 3:30:12 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, I need a PATA interface for my laptop, but I'd gladly pay up to have a dead silent super fast hard drive in my laptop.

RE: Sign me up!
By TomZ on 3/13/2007 3:50:41 PM , Rating: 3
...not to mention very low power.

P.s. - DT, please get rid of the code that moves the cursor to the subject line!

RE: Sign me up!
By semo on 3/13/2007 3:59:32 PM , Rating: 3
P.s. - DT, please get rid of the code that moves the cursor to the subject line!
hear hear.

RE: Sign me up!
By leexgx on 3/13/2007 4:22:25 PM , Rating: 2
i agree its anoying when you start to type and its in there

the opps the M$ sever broke agane msg is allso anoying

RE: Sign me up!
By Master Kenobi on 3/13/2007 6:08:08 PM , Rating: 2
Funny..... I believe this server runs on Linux.

RE: Sign me up!
By Lifted on 3/14/2007 1:54:26 AM , Rating: 2
So MS finally released .net for Linux. About time!

Combination of DRR and HDD?
By diliff on 3/14/2007 6:54:02 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe this isn't particularly feasible but wouldn't it be possible to use a combination of DDR and a hard drive? When the PC is powered down, perhaps using a small rechargable battery it could copy the contents of the DDR RAM to the HDD and vice versa when it powers up, in a similar way to how Windows hibernates when it copies the contents of its RAM to HDD and powers down. That way you have all the benefits of frighteningly fast data access and the reliability and longetivity of a hard drive. Could it work?

RE: Combination of DRR and HDD?
By EnigmaV8 on 3/14/2007 12:22:44 PM , Rating: 2
*cough* Vista RediBoost *cough*

And how would this be different than Hybernation? It's pointless to use this method for the OS as you're still reading it into memory on boot. The only thing this method may speed up is the occational OS component load but that's negligable.

RE: Combination of DRR and HDD?
By diliff on 3/15/2007 11:08:38 AM , Rating: 2
It'd be different to hibernation because it would give you DDR speed hard drive access in general Windows usage, as opposed to merely being able to store the temporary state of Windows. I only compared it to hibernation because the theory of transfering data from RAM to HDD for longer term storage is similar, but the actual usage would be very different. It would speed *EVERYTHING* up, not just the occasional OS component load. Anything that is limited by HDD access would benefit enormously from it.

very good value for money?
By semo on 3/13/2007 3:16:22 PM , Rating: 2
the cost per gb is as good as mlc usb flash drives (correct me if i'm wrong since i'm looking at british sterling and products).

will these be available for purchase without a laptop? i imagine it isn't too hard to use these as desktop drives.

RE: very good value for money?
By leexgx on 3/13/2007 4:25:22 PM , Rating: 2
its an sata so it work in desktops and laptops with no extra cables and it have an noise level of err nothing (same as the old ide laptop hdds but thay needed an adaptor)

1-2 of these will out perform an norm hdd or an raptor (talking about ramdom seak as well of like nothing)

By tk109 on 3/13/2007 6:41:09 PM , Rating: 2
This is perfect for my boot drive for my HTPC.

I'm using an old 36 gig raptor. Would love to get rid of it for a fast silent and cool flash drive.

It's nice that finally all these drivers are coming out. Seems like forever we kept getting announcments but there was nothing to show for the longest time.

RE: ....
By akyp on 3/13/2007 10:53:45 PM , Rating: 2
As soon as they come out with a 128GB SSD at a reasonable price, I'm replacing my 74GB Raptor as my OS/programs drive.

By JackBurton on 3/13/2007 9:23:56 PM , Rating: 2
Once they come out with at least a 64GB version, I'm in.

RE: 64GB
By Pirks on 3/13/07, Rating: 0
RE: 64GB
By Pirks on 3/13/07, Rating: 0
By caater on 3/14/2007 5:21:09 AM , Rating: 2
i think we'll see many ssd-related announcements at cebit.
for example - super talent introduces variety of ssd-s there, from 1.8" to 3.5" and sizes to 128GB.
i reckon most old traditional harddisc makers are getting nervous - little memorystick guys are coming.

as for speed - it just need a little bit different controller in ssd and more wider internal bus in there. sort of like "internal raid 0" :)

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