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Sony set to upgrade PS3 with PlayStation Home; No more EE+GS chips after April

The 2007 Game Developers’ Conference is less than a week away, and many eyes are on Sony for what is supposed to be a significant announcement planned for the event. GDC Director Jamil Moledina is appears to be privy to the keynote topics, and said to GameDaily last week that Sony will be delivering news that would make PlayStation 3 owners very happy.

Gaming blog Kotaku has posted what could be the subject of Sony’s massive announcement: PlayStation Home. According to the rumor-filled story, the PlayStation 3 will soon be getting its own version of “Mii avatars” and “Xbox 360 achievements.” As a new requirement for all future PS3 titles, each game will feature its own virtual room, where users “will receive items with which to adorn the room that are specific to the game,” as part of an achievement system.

The anonymous source also says that Sony is bringing social networking concepts to the console in a manner that should be similar to MySpace. Voice and text chat, along with video are to be some of the new features.

Another source from the Neoseeker forums mirrors some of the information found in the Kotaku story. According to forum member “DevelopersHeart,” Phil Harrison will be delivering a keynote at GDC to announce a new firmware update that will be available on March 8 that will include new features such as a more refined PS Store frontend, Connect Store support for movie and music downloads, and wallpaper options. A social networking feature, similar to MySpace and YouTube, is also mentioned, except that it is named by the message author as being called “PlayStation Lifestyle” rather than “PlayStation Home.”

On the topic of name, Sony Computer Entertainment has recently registered the trademark for “PlayStation Home,” defining it as an “electronic games services provided by means of the Internet,” for the “creation and development of virtual and interactive images and environments,” and “introduction and social networking services, namely introducing electronic game players to others.” The trademark description certainly lends credence to the rumors.

Also said in the post by “DevelopersHeart” is that the Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesizer chip will be removed in North American and Japanese consoles in April, unifying the two territory’s machines with the European spec.

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The wait is over ... for me
By enlil242 on 3/3/2007 12:08:45 PM , Rating: 4
Well, as I stumbled past 2 stacks of PS3s at my local Best Buy (30 total) . I thought for a minute, cool, I may pick one up ... Cheap blue-ray player and a console to play games that are not on my 360. But I decided against it. (no movies and no games!) Then, I remembered something I decided a while back ... My ~$500 - $600 will be going to either an ATI or NVIDIA DX10 card which will (supposedly) blow away next-gen consoles graphics ... emphasize SHOULD.

I am satisfied with the 360 for console gaming as I love "multiplayer gaming" on the PC - Especially with COD4 on the horizon.

Plus, I like sitting back and watching all of the bashing going on in both directions (either buy both, or just enjoy your purchase ... no need to find justification on the internet). But I do think Sony is tripping over themselves trying to put so much into their PS3. It's just a console. By the time they drop the price to a reasonable level, Microsoft, who are now making ~$75 per console, can easily drop their price $100 - $150. I bet they are just waiting to pull this one out of there arse.

Is the 360 perfect? no. But for $400, I am enjoying streaming my music / HD video to my 50" screen as I type and playing Rainbow 6 Vegas, cursing the screen every time I get shot in the head and have to play the whole level over again! (Grrrr)

Will I ever get a PS3? I dunno. If the DX10 us as good as it is being hyped, then prolly not ... If Blue-ray wins the format war, I'll wait and get a $100 standalone player - as with any piece of tech, in time, players should be at or less than this price.

Until then, I'll check back to hear people defend their purchase decision with such passion and vigor. It really is rather humorous...




RE: The wait is over ... for me
By afkrotch on 3/4/2007 5:35:37 PM , Rating: 3
Actually current DX9 cards blow away both consoles. The PS3 is pretty much on par with the 360 for graphics, and it's based off the G70 (7800 GTX) of course it's gimped down a bit. So pretty much any card above that is better than the consoles graphics. You also have the ability to change your resolutions and quality settings. I'm wondering when they'll start doing that for consoles.

The problem nowadays is that ppl see consoles as just that. A console. Both 360 and PS3 can play games, play movies, play HD content, surf the net, play music, view pics, etc. You can even load a new OS on the PS3 and get PC functionality.

Me, I own both a 360 and PS3. I've spent about $600 on the 20 gig 360, 2 games, faceplate, rechargeable battery w/ cable, and 5500 Microsoft points. I've spent about $700 on the 60 gig PS3 and 7 games. I only use them as consoles and nothing else, cause I prefer to do all my PC functions on my actual PCs.


RE: The wait is over ... for me
By ViperROhb34 on 3/4/2007 6:52:57 PM , Rating: 3
The problem with PS3 isn't its GPU or CPU.. the problem is the real power of PS3 is beingheld back by its memory system. Neither GPU or CPU can reach full power without a memory system to back up fillrates.

The Xbox 360 has a 10mb buffer built on-die to the GPU that is there only for a frame buffer. This memory can transfer at an astounding 256 Gps ! ! To put it into perspective the rest of 360's graphics memory does 22 Gps .. While the PS3's Graphics system does 22 Gps one ways and 15 Gps another ( one is up and one down ) So the PS3 has nothing remotiely close to the speed of 360's built in eDRAM which does 256 Gps.. being able to cache and at this speed helps with frame rates. I speculate its one reason PS3 has a frame rate problem in some intense areas of games in which 360 doesnt.. like COD3, Tony Hawk.


RE: The wait is over ... for me
By afkrotch on 3/4/2007 11:45:28 PM , Rating: 3
Wow! 22 gbps you say, yet the memory can't even do that speed. You can keep talking about the bandwith, but if it's not utilized, it doesn't mean crap.

Here's something to think about. The PS3 has a possible 2 teraflops of power, while the 360 has one. Does this make the PS3 significantly better than the 360? No.

Here's something to speculate for the games. Could it possibly be a bad port? Could it possibly be a poorly made game? The PS3 is harder to code for than a 360.

Me...I really don't care which is better than which. I have both and I'm good. For me, both had their merits. I lean more towards the PS3, as it's more non-FPS oriented in their games and those are the games I purchase. I don't care about Halo, Gears of War, R6: Vegas, etc. I get my FPS fun on my PC. Even in the small amount of launch games, more appealed to me than what was available on the 360. Course when I heard that Idolm@ster was coming on 360, I went out and picked one up. It's been great too. I like the 360's interface more than the PS3s, but I hate Microsoft points. Achievements also seem to be just tossed in and no real thought is put into them. Their online service is better than the PS3s by a large amount, but they can better that with time.

Anyways, I like both consoles.


Lolz
By scrapsma54 on 3/2/07, Rating: 0
RE: Lolz
By Loc13 on 3/2/2007 9:03:27 AM , Rating: 3
The Xbox360 didn't have some important features at launch either, such as multitasking. March and the European launch is a big month for Sony, they better bring some of the rumors to life. Motorstorm got a few good reviews, but the lack of splitscreen is VERY disappointing. :(


RE: Lolz
By michal1980 on 3/2/07, Rating: -1
RE: Lolz
By rdeegvainl on 3/2/2007 9:28:20 AM , Rating: 1
I already posted so I can't rectify the situation, but it seems like somebody down rated your post for no reason. If they had any proof to the contrary they should have posted it instead of just clicking to downrate.


RE: Lolz
By edpsx on 3/2/07, Rating: -1
RE: Lolz
By scrapsma54 on 3/2/07, Rating: -1
RE: Lolz
By Scabies on 3/2/07, Rating: 0
RE: Lolz
By spwrozek on 3/2/2007 10:06:44 AM , Rating: 4
I don't know if I buy that. As I recall the 360 had a lot of issues at launch. Overheating, loud, giant power brick, red circle of death, shortages, etc. DT reported on them and people bashed on them. That was well over a year ago though. People are going to be talking about the current and forgetting the past. So now it is the PS3s turn. The Wii even had the Wiimote issue but Nintendo fixed it real quick. When it comes to Sony people are just pissed off. It just seems like they are back talking everything, changing their minds, and making some features, which consumers really want, an after thought. Then to push it over the edge the people in charge just don't know when to say 'no comment'.


RE: Lolz
By Kefner on 3/2/2007 10:12:22 AM , Rating: 2
Well said!


RE: Lolz
By scrapsma54 on 3/2/07, Rating: 0
Soft emulation of PS2 games.
By nurbsenvi on 3/2/2007 10:04:12 AM , Rating: 2
So from future firmware updates those PS3s equipped with GS/EE will still utilize the chip or will they abandon the use of it?




RE: Soft emulation of PS2 games.
By threepac3 on 3/2/2007 10:22:23 AM , Rating: 2
You know what thats a very good question... That would be intresting what Sony decides to do about the old chips. It could end up like this; SOny may say to themselves that maybe they could get a higher compatibility threshold if they disable the chips in firmware and emu. them in software.


RE: Soft emulation of PS2 games.
By Scabies on 3/2/2007 10:43:52 AM , Rating: 2
more importantly, if they go to software compatibility/emulation, perhaps they can upsample the graphics? FFVII with no jaggies!


I can see the Future.
By DarthKojima on 3/3/2007 4:12:02 AM , Rating: 2
I can see that Sony will dominate EuroAsia 2 years from now.

Gran Turismo, F1 Series and Winning Eleven alone can dominate PS3 sales here in Europe.

and in Asia hmm.. more Japan RPGS and Action-Adventure titles.

Xbox is for FPS only. no wonder they praise MS so much ;)




RE: I can see the Future.
By splines on 3/3/2007 6:46:39 AM , Rating: 3
I love JRPG's.

I love the bits where you do absolutely nothing to affect the outcome, since you're watching an overblown cutscene full of faux dramatics.

Or the bits where they show you tons of pretty and forget to mention that stuff only happens in the non-interactive bits during battles and that in reality it doesn't look much better than anything out on the market.

Or that when it arrives here it mainly seems to be aimed at wannabe western otaku who love their hentai and fan-service.

Or that the mechanics in any JRPG's you'd care to mention are essentially a grind towards a boss fight with absolutely no real characterisation, plot or compelling reason to stick around.

Give me Fallout any day of the week, in other words.


nice but?
By dome1234 on 3/2/2007 8:47:51 AM , Rating: 2
all these new features are nice addition to all ps3 owners or would be owners I'm sure, but I can't help but thinking, for the console to be really competitive, a price drop is a must. I wouldn't be surprised at a fall price drop since they're going software emu for ps1/2 games and I remember reading somewhere that they're switching to 65nm for cell.




RE: nice but?
By scrapsma54 on 3/2/2007 8:54:30 AM , Rating: 2
Also the games need to be good. sony has done a great job of that.


<no subject>
By Scabies on 3/2/2007 9:49:03 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Also said in the post by “DevelopersHeart” is that the Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesizer chip will be removed in North American and Japanese consoles in April, unifying the two territory’s machines with the European spec.

Cool. Guess this means I have limited edition hardware?
I wonder if they will move all emulation/backwards compatability to software, so they only have to work out bugs for the EmotionEngine-less consoles..?
Would the removal of the EE/GS make enough of a change as to stagnate hax/modchip progress?
on PS3Forums, people have mentioned (or speculated/rumored) that the big 2-0 will also include downloadable PS1 compatability, much like PSP does now. That sort of follows along with the idea of Software Compatability, so there may be some credence to it after all. Then again, they also mentioned that Playstation Home will be something akin to the MMOG "Second Life." Whatever, I just hope they expand the digital media compatability (preferrably something with h.264 and DTS/5.1 in the description)




RE: <no subject>
By Vinnybcfc on 3/2/2007 12:29:36 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't describe it as limited edition hardware; theres no advantage to it, it is likely that the chip will be rendered useless by firmware updates.

I cant see Sony developing two different firmwares - it adds more cost to development


sounds like good news
By R3MF on 3/2/2007 11:26:24 AM , Rating: 2
congrats to Sony.




RE: sounds like good news
By Scorpion on 3/2/2007 3:21:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
the PlayStation 3 will soon be getting its own version of “Mii avatars” and “Xbox 360 achievements.” As a new requirement for all future PS3 titles, each game will feature its own virtual room, where users “will receive items with which to adorn the room that are specific to the game,” as part of an achievement system.

This quote I find the most interesting. I can see it now...

"Hey jaxboy672, come look at my FFXIII room. See I have the gold chocobo statue! j00 r s0 j3l0us!"

Now all of the people who play way too many video games can feel so proud of themselves for having more of these items.


By Roy2001 on 3/2/2007 12:52:52 PM , Rating: 1
SONY said there would be dual HDMI, not even single, it would be PS2 game compatible, it will support dual screens, to draw attention from 360, now SONY killed these features.

I think those who are/were waiting for those features should sue SONY.




By Ard on 3/2/2007 1:18:51 PM , Rating: 2
You realize you have absolutely no clue, right? It's not even worth the time to point out why your post is so ridiculous.

And to the ppl rating down completely valid posts, grow the hell up and stop being biased little fanboys.


SONY
By rdeegvainl on 3/2/2007 9:20:39 AM , Rating: 2
Hmmm.... countdown till the sony bashing starts..3..2..1..
Seriously though. With some of the latest news, at least someone at SONY is trying to make it better. I'm not saying they are covering all their bases but if this trend continues I can see a great future for SONY and the PS3.
Does anyone else notice how wierd the word SONY looks... I guess I just do that with all words when I read them too many times.




Poor Kotaku
By fk49 on 3/2/2007 4:14:23 PM , Rating: 2
You seem to be forgetting why this is not your typical rumor: Sony sent Kotaku a few ceast & desist emails after they wrote the article, threatening to cut off press releases if the rumor were published. Crecente decided to publish the article anyway (good job, we need freedom of press) and now Sony is pissed as hell.

If anything, this only confirms that Sony had planned to announce this on their own schedule and is mad that it's been leaked. Or their PR department has another "woops" moment.




Modeling After Xbox Live
By ViperROhb34 on 3/4/2007 6:44:16 PM , Rating: 2
Sony is taking another feature that has been part of Xbox Live since its start. Whenever you look at someone doing something right and making money Sony can't help but have an acheivement system and Avatars like MS has in Live. I can't imagine not having either.. so right now their Sony's system must be pretty plain -jayne. And until this rumor becomes reality its really just speculation.




BrandX 360
By somegeek on 3/2/07, Rating: -1
RE: BrandX 360
By thebrown13 on 3/2/2007 10:55:25 AM , Rating: 3
Lol the 360 is anything but boring. Xbox Live is $50 a YEAR for the best online gaming experience available. Not too much.

And I do know people who bought a 360 because Sony sucks.


RE: BrandX 360
By feelingshorter on 3/2/07, Rating: -1
RE: BrandX 360
By somegeek on 3/2/07, Rating: -1
RE: BrandX 360
By thebrown13 on 3/2/07, Rating: -1
RE: BrandX 360
By thebrown13 on 3/2/07, Rating: 0
RE: BrandX 360
By KernD on 3/2/2007 7:21:06 PM , Rating: 2
Battlefield 2142 supports voice chat in game, so did the 2.

quote:
A well refined gaming experience that is easy to program games for is next gen gaming.


that is what the 360 is all about, it's easy to program for, the tools that comes with the devkits are amazing.


RE: BrandX 360
By Sea Shadow on 3/3/2007 3:34:26 AM , Rating: 3
Well to name a few...

How about Unreal Tournament, Halflife/Halflife 2 (or the hundreds of games based off their engine), Battlefield 2, or battlefield 2142.


RE: BrandX 360
By JimFear on 3/3/2007 8:33:48 AM , Rating: 3
The Battlefield Series and CS:S/DoD support voice chat.


RE: BrandX 360
By Bryf50 on 3/2/2007 4:21:50 PM , Rating: 1
How do you figure the 360 is designed to compete with the ps2. Did you forget about the xbox. And the ps2 also outsold the the ps3 during the holiday season.


RE: BrandX 360
By diabloazul126 on 3/2/2007 12:32:08 PM , Rating: 2
Sony, needs to improve a lot of things. They really dropped the ball on the PS3, I mean sure the graphics are nice, but weeks before its release there was already a better PC-based video system(G80), which means that in a year or two there will be an affordable, multitasking computer system that is better in nearly every way as well as possibly cheaper(if sony is unable to cut costs) than buying a console, plus many game developers lost faith in Sony exclusives titles. So.. not as many good PS3 only games as with previous systems; making the system less desirable overall since you can get the title on say... the 360 with the same graphics and whatnot. They definitely need to put out something that draws in more people than just the Spider-Man movie font 'Playstation 3' on a hunk of glossy black plastic, and what they are doing with this firmware is a step, but isn't really going to make a big difference to most people.
Oh ya, and how is the 360 a 'me-too' product if it came out 12 months before PS3? I'm no Microsoft fanboy but there just isn't any reason still to go out to buy a PS3 unless you are a Sony fanboy or you really want to watch blu-ray discs.
I'm still satisfied with last-gen.


RE: BrandX 360
By Gatt on 3/2/2007 2:31:39 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah,

It's so boring that Gears of War barely sold. No, wait, that's not right, it flew off the shelves. Hmmm...

Well then, Sony's online is far superior to 360's. No, wait, Sony's online is a html page without even so much as a friends list. Hmmm...

Well then, The PS3 is reasonably priced and accessible to all, compared to the overpriced 360. No, wait, the PS3 costs as much as a PC, with less features, while the 360 is a couple hundred cheaper. Hmm...

Of course, all the Developers are jumping ship from the 360 to dev for the PS3. No, wait, they all jumped ship from the PS3. Hmmm...

PS3 doesn't have a single redeeming feature. Not a single point they've beaten 360 on.

As far as motion sensing goes, it's a fad. Sorry, it is. Outside of some sports games, it becomes self-limiting. Not only do you look rather idiotic waving a control at a TV pretending to swing a sword or fire a gun, and we all know how popular LARPS are, it just simply doesn't lend itself to extended playing.

What's really hysterical about the whole thing is that Sony's big announcement, which should've been a price cut to $400 if they wanted to even survive in Consoles, is instead copies of Wii and 360 window dressing.


RE: BrandX 360
By feelingshorter on 3/2/2007 4:45:01 PM , Rating: 3
Motion sensing is not a fad. If you've seen the games where they control airplanes/cars/aim with the controller, it works. If your going to argue, show how you deducted your answer.

quote:
Not only do you look rather idiotic waving a control at a TV pretending to swing a sword or fire a gun, and we all know how popular LARPS are, it just simply doesn't lend itself to extended playing.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=UpthPKpyMGQ

Have you played the Wii? Have you even taken a chance to look at the movies for motion sensing controllers?

It makes most people tired in about one hour. Funny thing is that most people are in really bad shape. So you think it is "cooler" to be out of shape, and fat/obese? I wonder how cool you are in real life. If your so self conscious about how you "look" waving a control around, I doubt you would play any games since nerds are never "cool" anyways.

Developers can turn off the motion sensing anytime they want. So if they want to make a game not using it, they can, and they will probably even give people the option of using either analog or motion sensing. 360 doesn't have that option.

http://steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=all&initi...

Have you ever used steam? steampowered.com? They are trying to become a unifying force for games online, where developers can sell their games online for download. You can use chat/voice and such. One account, and all your games are there. You can also use your account on other computers, no problem.

Careful with what you "think" the PS3 will be. Since Linux will be available for the PS3, I can only imagine fans in the future programming the console for better things.

Like hell I'm going to pay 50/year for online service. You mind as well add that cost to the console, making the 360 expensive too. Goes to show that the Wii/PS3 will have a longer life than the 360. Come 4 years down the road and you want to have a good online experience, which Sony will improve upon, will you still want to pay the 50 dollar fee?


RE: BrandX 360
By Rockjock51 on 3/2/2007 7:25:57 PM , Rating: 2
Steam isn't exactly the powerhouse that Xbox Live is. It may be some day, but right now it's not even close. Not only that, but any game can be released on Steam, even those that lack voice or multiplayer. It is a place to buy games. It is not a multiplayer system.

An hour isn't "extended playing".

People pay 15 dollars a month to play MMO's on the PC. 50 a year isn't going to break any banks.

Every system has it's advantages. Stop trying to imply that any of them are going bankrupt any time soon.


RE: BrandX 360
By ViperROhb34 on 3/4/2007 7:02:34 PM , Rating: 2
Sony is selling too slowly right now for Either Nintendo or MS to even worry. Two critics on G4 agree's PS3 would still be in 3d place in one year. So before you speculate they how well the online system will do for Sony at least let them get to second place. I mean right now PS2 is outselling PS3.

I think companies that put out games that use Sony's online system are being made to pay for this - while MS doesn't. One recent game that was put ot for both 360 and PS3 opted not to have the PS3 version online, while the 360 version can be played online.

Lastly since MS doesnt charge gaming companies for online material this promotes alot of online games for 360.. if you comment about 50 dollars per year. Thats $4.16 a month. If you can't afford that you have no reason to buy a 360 or a PS3 because you really can't afford it, you must not be working, and you must live with mommy and daddy. $4.16 a month for my version of crack cocaine is pretty cheap.

One more thing, if you want to get on Live and download demo's, game trailers, movies, new game maps.. - well thats FREE .. Its called Xbox Live Silver.


RE: BrandX 360
By somegeek on 3/4/07, Rating: 0
RE: BrandX 360
By ViperROhb34 on 3/4/2007 10:34:25 PM , Rating: 2
I paid Sony Online Entertainment around 15 a month to play Star Wars Galaxies online for about a year..

I play Xbox Live almost daily.. 4.16 a month is a minimal fee.

Right now Microsoft is in control. 'If' they feel they need to.. they can drop the Gold Fee anytime and make it free. Otherwise if you arent doing online gaming they do have the Xbox Live Silver which still offers everything else.. chat and downloads..


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