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NVIDIA's next-generation single-chip socket AM2 chipset revealed

Memos sent to DailyTech reveal new details of NVIDIA’s upcoming MCP72 single-processor chipset. This will be NVIDIA’s first HyperTransport 3.0, or HT3, compatible chipset and a successor to the current nForce 500-series MCP and the upcoming AMD MCP68 chipsets.

MCP72 will support AMD’s socket AM2 and HT3 enabled AM2+. Socket AM2+ will house AMD’s upcoming Athlon 64 Agena and Opteron Budapest quad-core processors.

Unlike the nForce 590 SLI, the upcoming MCP72 is a single-chip solution similar to the previous nForce 3-series, mainstream nForce 4-series and nForce 500-series. It will also offer a small footprint and have low power consumption.

MCP72 will also be NVIDIA’s first PCIe 2.0 equipped chipset, making it ideal for next-generation PCIe peripherals and graphics cards. Other notable MCP72 features include support for six SATA 3.0Gbps and dual Gigabit Ethernet ports like the current nForce 500-series.

As with all NVIDIA chipset architectures, expect MCP72 to spawn SLI and Ultra variants. There’s also the possibility of MCP72-based integrated graphics offerings too.

Expect MCP72 to launch in time for AMD’s upcoming Agena and Budapest quad-core processors.


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RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Tsuwamono on 2/8/2007 8:15:55 AM , Rating: 3
Not alot of people thought that they would abandon AMD. Nvidia is still the largest seller of chipsets for the AMD platform. If AMD excluded them they would probably lose millions in sales as almost everyone knows that for Chipsets Nvidia is almost always the go to guy but for graphics cards ATI is almost always the go to guy.

Note to flamers: I said "Almost always" so dont flame i know both have been beaten in their respective catagories.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By VooDooAddict on 2/8/2007 10:16:28 AM , Rating: 2
(not a flame just a personal observation)

I'll certainly agree with nVidia being the AMD chipset of choice for a while now. If for no other reason the market share and available motherboard products.

On the graphics cards ... they both always seem to have attractive products across the various ranges. You can build a quality system on either and in any price segment. Occasionally, one has a clear price/performance winner in the mid range video card market, but they trade that lead often enough. The last time there was a clear winner across the entire range was the GeForceFX 5 series.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By smaddox on 2/8/2007 11:09:01 AM , Rating: 3
I would have to say there is almost always a clear winner.

The 9800 pro was the clear price/performance winner in its day, and after that, the 7800 line was by far better than anything ATI had (I currently use an evga 7800 gt, and it runs like a champ).

So basically, they trade off and on. Although to be honest, it seems like Nvidia has the lead more often than ATI. We shall see how that changes with AMD backing them up now.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Sahrin on 2/8/07, Rating: 0
RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By vortmax on 2/8/2007 11:29:16 AM , Rating: 2
You forgot one:

Winner: nVidia GeForce 8800

I know ATI's next-gen part isn't released yet, but until it is, nVidia has the better part.

4 to 4...tied.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By peldor on 2/8/2007 12:07:29 PM , Rating: 2
R520/580 > G70

In heat, power consumption, and noise too.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Le Québécois on 2/8/2007 2:47:17 PM , Rating: 2
Your DirectX generation listing need some corrections.

DX7:
Winner: nVidia GeForce --> The Geforce (256) had no real competition at that time. The Geforce 2 was already out when the Radeon came.
Loser: ATI Radeon/Radeon 7000

DX9 SM1: --> There's no such thing as DX9 SM1 only video cards. Both the Radeon 9700PRO and the GeForce FX5800U were SM2.0.
Winner: ATI Radeon 9700Pro
Loser: nVidia GeForce FX5800U

DX9 SM3:
Winner: nVidia GeForce 6800U
Loser: ATI Radeon X800XT (alsoSM2.0 Part) --> If by "also" you meant not at all, then you are correct because the X800 family didn't have SM3 but only SM2.1(or 2.b, 2.0+, DX9.b depending on how you name it).

As for your winner/loser list, there's not been a real winner since the GeForce 3/4 for nVidia and the Radeon 9700PRO for ATI.

Every following generation went like this:
nVidia release the new generation product first and lead the market for some time then ATI bring their new generation product to the market and take back the lead. nVidia fight back with a refresh of their current generation to take the lead again and later ATI do the same thing. Then we go back to the first step for the next generation. Sometimes nVidia and ATI switch place for who come first with a refresh of their current line of product but that's it.

So depending at WHEN you look at the market, ATI or nVidia can be the "winner" of that generation of video cards.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Jedi2155 on 2/8/2007 4:01:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
DX9 SM3 ROUND 2:
Winner: ATI Radeon X1800
Loser: nVidia GeForce 7800


I think it should be the other way around do the sheer amount of time it took ATI to respond and the fact that it was rather merely competitive rather than blowing away the competition.

Many people purchased the 7800 series during the wait for ATI.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Sahrin on 2/8/2007 11:13:59 AM , Rating: 4
I'm not sure your characterization is correct. ATI has been the performance leader in every generation except X800v6800. X1800 was faster in almost all situations than 7800, X1900 was faster in almost all situations that 7900, 9800 was faster in almost all situations that 5900 etc. etc.

Have they been huge performance leads? No. But they are demonstrable and they do exist - primarily it is nVidia fanboyism that dates back to the GeForce 3/4 series that drives nVidia's continued high market share (and ATI's seeming insistince on failure to execute their business strategy). In addition, ATI has a widely documented image quality lead (whether it continues to this generation remains to be seen).

As far as winning "across the entire range" - this is a pretty meaningless comment. If you compare by performance - the top cars will always be the top ranked. To say that "ATI is faster in the mid-range and slower in the low end" doesn't demonstrate anything but their willingness to spend more (or earn less) on parts in that market. Their technological leadership is demonstrated in the high end parts, exclusively.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Adonlude on 2/8/2007 1:26:38 PM , Rating: 2
nVidia fanboyism drives their market share? Interesting... I am pretty sure I have the fastest graphics card in the world at the moment and I am also pretty sure it says nVidia on it.

My TNT2 was repalced by an nVidia card I can't remember which was replaced by my 9800pro which was replaced by my x850xtpe which was replaced by my 8800GTX. These companies will continue to play leap frog, get over it!


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Sahrin on 2/8/2007 2:07:54 PM , Rating: 2
Only an idiot of uncommon quality could construe my comments that way. What I said was, nVidia faboyism drives market share when ATI leads the market - you see now that ATI is NOT leading, and their market share drops. However, nVidia's market share sustains itself even when their parts do not perform at the same level as ATI's (x1800 v. 7800, x1900 v. 7900).


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Marcus Pollice on 2/8/2007 4:42:35 PM , Rating: 2
When talking about market share we are talking about numbers which are easily compared.

read: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/2007020...

ATI increased their share in the discreet graphics market on the desktop, although NVIDIA had the fastest product on the market (half the quarter at least). So please don't draw conclusions based on subjective perception of the situation.


RE: nVidia for AMD!!!
By Le Québécois on 2/8/2007 2:07:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
primarily it is nVidia fanboyism that dates back to the GeForce 3/4 series that drives nVidia's continued high market share


nVidia market share has nothing to do with that. It's their ability to mass produce quality and fast products many months before ATI is able to do so in every generation since the GeForce 6 family. Then every generation ATI take back some market share later when they ALSO release quality products. And again, nVidia come back with a next generation video card to take back some share. It's the circle of life...well, if video cards were living entities.

And before ATI fanboys begin to flame me, I'm currently owning a Radeon X800XL because it was the best product on the market in that price range when I was looking for an upgrade.


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