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The first HD DVD title to hit BitTorrent networks
The results of hacked HD DVD keys turn up as HD DVDs are released on the Internet

Late last year, a hacker claimed to have circumvented the copy protection scheme used to protect HD DVD and Blu-ray content. Just over two weeks after the news broke, the online pirate community is seeing the fruits of hacker labor with the first release of a full HD DVD available for download.

The first HD DVD movie released is Serenity, which weighs in at 19.6 GB. The file reportedly is available in EVO format and is playable with PC-based players such as PowerDVD at full 1080p resolution.

Other HD DVD movies have quickly followed with the release of Pitch Black at 21.37 GB, The Chronicles of Riddick at 24.94 GB and Batman Begins at 24.76 GB. All HD DVD movies released thus far appear to retain all aspects of the original discs, including various audio options and special features.

While PowerDVD is the software of choice to play the pirated releases, PowerDVD’s developer, Cyberlink, has publically stated that it believes that its software is secure and is not a part of the exploit in extracting the title keys used to decrypt HD DVDs.

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RE: what's the point?
By puffpio on 1/17/2007 5:10:43 PM , Rating: 5
With my comcast cable internet I get 6 Mbps download speed which in reality I've gotten about 700 KB/s which is even lower than your estimate! That's about 0.68 MB/s

If you have a 19GB file that is 19456 MB

so 19456 MB /(0.68 MB/s) = 28611 s = 7.9 hours.. goto bed..wake up and it's downloaded!

RE: what's the point?
By CrazyBernie on 1/17/07, Rating: 0
RE: what's the point?
By puffpio on 1/18/2007 5:54:58 AM , Rating: 2
yeah I know...see how I lavled it 6 Mbps and not 6MBps..and then all the other calculations has them in Bps and not bps...I took that into account

RE: what's the point?
By Araemo on 1/18/2007 8:49:05 AM , Rating: 2
"With my comcast cable internet I get 6 Mbps download speed which in reality I've gotten about 700 KB/s which is even lower than your estimate!"

#1: You imply that 700KB/s is less than 6 Mb/s. (Ok, so 6Mb/s is technically 750KB/s, but whatever, close enough.)

#2: You imply that 700KB/s is less than the 1Mb/s in the original post you were replying to. (1 Mb/s is about 120KB/s.)

You may not have meant all that, but with the way it is written, I think most of us thought you were making the implications I pointed out above, which would show a confusion between bits and bytes in regards to data transmission speeds.

RE: what's the point?
By walk2k on 1/17/07, Rating: -1
RE: what's the point?
By mindless1 on 1/17/2007 10:30:54 PM , Rating: 2
You're in for a rude awakening if you think you could get that torrent at ~ 0.68MBps

Not that I'm advocating sharing these movies, but the general concept is you are a peer, you share 1:1 ratio. Your upload speed is what, 384K? Your going to choke your internet connection for several days just to get a movie a few months earlier that you'd end up being able to rent or see in person?

HD-DVD is such a waste of internet bandwidth not even considering the piracy issue. How you think your cable connection is going to fare if 10 of your neighbors have the same idea? Good luck getting online for the next few weeks.

RE: what's the point?
By CrazyBernie on 1/17/2007 10:54:28 PM , Rating: 3
That's interesting... I've never shared at a 1:1 ratio... keep in mind you're downloading from more than just one other user... I have my global upload limited to 25KB, and I never have a problem downloading files at over well over 300KB/s if enough users are seeding/sharing.

RE: what's the point?
By xsilver on 1/18/2007 4:48:06 AM , Rating: 4
you are what people call a "leech"

and probably a lot of people would wish bad things upon you ;)

RE: what's the point?
By Araemo on 1/18/2007 9:02:13 AM , Rating: 2
Of course, if he left his client on for a few weeks after he was done downloading, he might hit 1:1. ;P

I don't bother for some smaller files like webcasts and the like.

RE: what's the point?
By puffpio on 1/18/2007 5:55:58 AM , Rating: 2
I've gotten 700KB/sec speeds on torrents before.of course they were well seeded.

But if you have a good newsgroup server then you can do those kinds of speeds all day long

RE: what's the point?
By Araemo on 1/18/2007 9:01:13 AM , Rating: 2
I think you misunderstand the concept of the swarm and bittorrent.

You don't have to upload at your maximum speed, because A: You can continue uploading at a trickle for weeks or months after you're done downloading, and B: Many people uploading at a trickle together allow for fast downloads, this is the heart of bittorrent.

You can get your 1:1 ratio, it just takes time. Sometimes everyone who wants a given file has it long before you hit 2:1, let alone 1:1, but oh well? You don't HAVE to hit 1:1 for the swarm to be healthy, it just helps(especially in small swarms).

RE: what's the point?
By mindless1 on 1/21/2007 8:44:02 PM , Rating: 2
Invalid argument, you can't keep the swarm healthy if everyone d/l at max speed then only trickles for weeks or months (and frankly, I doubt most people will do it instead of quitting, if there were in the hurry to get the movie early by this P2P method then what about the next movie? At the trickle for months rate, several movies would be a cumulatively high u/l rate, they would have done better to share at a higher u/d ratio.

You do have to hit 1:1 for a healthy swarm, when it is seen as a whole, it is not an acceptible argument that one person can bow out of what everyone else would have to do. It wouldnt' be much of a problem if only one person littered in front of your house either but what if everyone did? No exceptions.

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