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Possibly the new home of the PirateBay
Want to avoid copyright laws completely? Become your own nation

The group of people that run PirateBay.org have announced plans to purchase the man-made island called Sealand. The structure sitting out at sea was originally called HM Fort Roughs and was formally a Maunsell Sea Fort off the coast of England. Although Sealand does not have a government that is recognized by any country, the small population that it holds -- roughly ten -- does claim rights to sovereignty.

With that in mind, the owners of PirateBay.org plan to move their operation over to Sealand so that they can remain separated by any foreign government jurisdiction. Of course, there's one main reason why this is in the works to begin with, and it all has to do with avoiding copyright laws. According to the PirateBay.org group:

With the help of all the kopimists on Internets, we want to buy Sealand. Donate money and you will become a citizien. We’ve set up a forum to discuss how the country is supposed to function. It should be a great place for everybody, with high-speed Internets access, no copyright laws and VIP accounts to The Pirate Bay.

At this point in time, the number of donations are unknown and it is still unknown whether all this will even be possible. Even if the group claims Sealand to be their own, its government body may not be recognized by international treaties and countries. Despite this, the PirateBay.org group has a plan: "If we do not get enough money required to buy the micronation of Sealand, we will try to buy another small island somwhere and claim it as our own country (prices start from USD 50 000)."



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Still a long way to go!
By PrinceGaz on 1/15/2007 8:17:42 AM , Rating: 2
From Wikipedia:
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From 2007 Sealand is available for transfer by Spanish estate company InmoNaranja.[20] It is explicitly stated that Sealand is not for sale, as a principality cannot be sold.[21] A sum of between £65,000,000 and £504,000,000 (US$977 million, €750,000,000) is set as the price for the new tenant(s).[22][23][24] Offers of "eight digits or over" are being solicited[25]. In response to the announcement of the availability of transfer, The Pirate Bay, arguably one of the world's largest and most notable BitTorrent trackers, has announced its plans to initiate a fund raiser campaign to attempt to pay for the transfer, and has entered negotiations with the government of Sealand.[26] The campaign, is titled BuySealand. The idea behind the transfer attempt is that The Pirate Bay and greater BitTorrent community would be able to circumvent international copyright laws, thus escaping prosecution from the RIAA, MPAA or other copyright protection associations.[27] As of 15 January, donations are at $13,000.


It's fairly impressive that PirateBay have managed to raise as much as $13,000 for an idea as ridiculous as this, but that's a long way short of the $10,000,000 that would be required to have the eight-figure sum which is apparently what is needed to be even considered. And that's assuming they are talking about US dollars rather than UK pounds, which I doubt.

There's no way they'll be able to buy Sealand, the chances are they'll use the money to set up servers in one of the small but fairly safe countries that are already popular with companies that engage in semi-legal online activities. Actually Sealand is one possible location even though its status as a country is very iffy indeed, as hosting servers is I think Sealand's main and probably only source of income.

At least that's what I hope they do with the money, PirateBay does seems fairly reputable (in a relative sense) so I doubt they're the sort who'd pocket the money and vanish.




RE: Still a long way to go!
By baseball43v3r on 1/18/2007 12:55:45 AM , Rating: 2
considering that piratebay gets an estimated 60K a month from advertisment alone (according to the MPAA newspress), they probably have quite a bit stashed away.
What i find most interesting is how the MPAA and RIAA are able to find out how much money they are losing. How can u make money if people weren't going to buy the product in the first place. i download illegally, but that doesn't mean if i had the money to buy the product i would, so the music companies wouldn't be making money off me anyway. i know i'm going to get flamed for that but thats just my stance. i'm not going to claim that downloading illegally isnt wrong, but i will say i dont like the way the MPAA and RIAA are embellishing certain aspects of the whole controversy. We are forced to take what they say at face value, and we really dont know what all they say is true.


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