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Possibly the new home of the PirateBay
Want to avoid copyright laws completely? Become your own nation

The group of people that run PirateBay.org have announced plans to purchase the man-made island called Sealand. The structure sitting out at sea was originally called HM Fort Roughs and was formally a Maunsell Sea Fort off the coast of England. Although Sealand does not have a government that is recognized by any country, the small population that it holds -- roughly ten -- does claim rights to sovereignty.

With that in mind, the owners of PirateBay.org plan to move their operation over to Sealand so that they can remain separated by any foreign government jurisdiction. Of course, there's one main reason why this is in the works to begin with, and it all has to do with avoiding copyright laws. According to the PirateBay.org group:

With the help of all the kopimists on Internets, we want to buy Sealand. Donate money and you will become a citizien. We’ve set up a forum to discuss how the country is supposed to function. It should be a great place for everybody, with high-speed Internets access, no copyright laws and VIP accounts to The Pirate Bay.

At this point in time, the number of donations are unknown and it is still unknown whether all this will even be possible. Even if the group claims Sealand to be their own, its government body may not be recognized by international treaties and countries. Despite this, the PirateBay.org group has a plan: "If we do not get enough money required to buy the micronation of Sealand, we will try to buy another small island somwhere and claim it as our own country (prices start from USD 50 000)."



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By kattanna on 1/12/2007 11:48:43 AM , Rating: 4
first off...what ISP is going to sell then a connection to the net when they know full well in advance it will be nothing but pirated material?

second..if someone does, then all local ISPs have to do is simply block the IP ranges

its not gonna fly





By knowyourenemy on 1/12/2007 12:27:27 PM , Rating: 2
Money talks. :P


By mindless1 on 1/12/2007 12:49:10 PM , Rating: 4
Under this theory you have, they wouldn't even be on the internet at present.

There is an important thing to remember - those most vocal about anti-piracy measures are those at least indirectly profiting from (prevention) in some way. Take away the incentive to interrupt your regular business with playing software cop, and you are left in a non-discriminatory position. There are plenty of ISPs that don't consider themselves responsible for what a website does and will merely, reluctantly cooperate with law enforcement in limited ways but still make the migthy $ off their client.


By cochy on 1/12/2007 1:23:23 PM , Rating: 3
I agree on this being very stupid. One can not just delcare oneself to be a sovereign nation (guess they never watched Family Guy ;) ). You at least require International recognition. If they international community does not recognize you as a separate nation, then it doesn't matter what you say you are. Without the protection of a real host nation the FBI will walk in and arrest them. They will be treated just like real pirates, lol how ironic. Real pirates can operate in international waters as well.

quote:
Those committing thefts on the high seas, inhibiting trade, and endangering maritime communication are considered by sovereign states to be hostis humani generis (enemies of humanity).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates#International...


By cochy on 1/12/2007 1:43:53 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm well as a follow-up, it appears that this Sealand installation is not even in international waters to begin with. It's in British waters. This makes this whole deal even dumber than before. Anyway these Piratebay guys love to talk trash.


By Kyteland on 1/12/2007 3:38:32 PM , Rating: 3
The UK didn't redefine its territorial waters to be 12 nautical miles until 1987. Sealand declared itself a sovereign nation in 1967, and was well within international waters at the time.


By masher2 (blog) on 1/12/2007 4:55:09 PM , Rating: 1
As others have pointed out, a declaration of sovereignty is meaningless without international recognition. If Britain claims those waters, then they belong to them. Like it or not, in cases of territorial dispute, might makes right.


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