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The recent decision by the FDA will only ignite a debate for years to come

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration recently made a tentative conclusion that meat and milk from some cloned animals is safe for human consumption.  The decision has paved the way for the United States to become the first nation that allows products from cloned animals to be sold in grocery stores. 

After years of numerous delays, the FDA report found that there is not much of a difference in composition of food from cloned animals compared to normal animals.  Even if the FDA's assessment is officially approved in 2007, consumers may not be able to products from cloned animals since the technology remains too costly to be widely used.

The decision on Thursday immediately drew comments from critics from across the nation.  Opponents to cloned food are aiming to throw Congressional pressure to delay the policy before it is finalized.

Consumer groups are gravely concerned over potential health issues that may arise in some of the cloned animals.  Some cloned animals may have weakened immune systems and will need more drugs to stay healthy, according to activists and critics.

Don't be surprised if you begin seeing some sort of "clone-free" labels on meat and dairy products from cloned animals.  Ben & Jerry's ice cream, for example, already mentions that its farmers do not use any sort of bovine growth hormone on its cows.  Many opponents are not necessarily against cloned food, but want to make sure consumers know exactly what they are purchasing.  The FDA found, however, that there is "no science-based reason" for having to label cloned foods.

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RE: Cheap
By Ringold on 12/31/2006 1:37:29 AM , Rating: 4
Okay, on social aspects, I'll agree. And for most people, the health care seems to work out, except for the higher taxes (which hurt growth). I'll agree to all that, that Europeans probably like living in Europe. It's a big happy place where, unfortunately, like you pointed out, people dont really have to worry about working hard. I'd be happy too.

But there is a problem in the long run. If Europe trails, say, US or eastern Asian growth for decades the way it has in recent decades then the gap between the lifestyle of EU and every other highly advanced industrialized country will continue to widen. 1-2% makes for huge differences over 20 years, 50 years. If America had sense and implemented the FairTax bill, the gap wouldn't be 1-2%, it'd be more like 2-3%, but thats a hope, not yet a fact.

Your last paragraph is dead on. There's almost no incentive to work. It's hard to drill down the numbers as Sweden intentionally makes its unemployment numbers a little opaque but the potential UE in Sweden is as high as 30% if people who are unemployed and not seeking work due to no market forces pushing them to do so instead of an actual handicap are included in the calculation. That's skewed a bit to the high side, but it still suggests the true number would be astounding (if it were known). That kind of thing is sustainable... at the publics (your) expense.

Canada has its own problems -- like doctors being paid the equivalent of highly experienced auto mechanics or union factory workers. (Don't believe me? Ask a few) That's unsustainable -- they don't go through med school to work for beans.

Anyway, those problems, if not addressed, will lead in the long run to a situation Europe lives a totally sub-standard lifestyle compared to the United States, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc. They already sort of do, and high UE and low growth isn't helping. Their resistance to organic crops is, like I said, just symptom of their whole misunderstanding of economics. Another fine example: Newsweek interviewed a highly successful French businessman a couple months ago. He shared how socially he's looked upon like a criminal, and occasionally treated like one. (He was arrested and sat next to murders and the likes while awaiting arraignment in court for having a manager work slightly over the limit) The view in France, and elsewhere, seems to be that if one person/company has a lot of wealth, that somehow means there is less for everyone else (thus, taxation to serve as a tool of wealth redistribution, etc). That, and the misguided view of limiting work-week hours. Those two betray a view of an economic pie that never grows, and thats not the case at all.

Hey, socially, I like Europeans (except for the arrogant ones). But economically, they're practically dangerous.

Oh, and I'd wager that we dont feel insecure. The patriot act is, additionally, childs play to various laws in most EU nations, and also a tool to fight a war which Europe hasn't woke up to (despite Al Qaeda admitting this week they have about 100 cell leaders in the EU with a 10-year goal of at least 1000, and the UK saying they're watching 1600 suspected terrorists themselves but scared out of their pants because 400k UK citizens visit Pakistan annually). But whether or not Europe has become weak after half a century of protection under the US nuclear umbrella is another debate. :)

RE: Cheap
By AxemanFU on 1/2/2007 4:13:55 PM , Rating: 2
Nice places to live, but with dreadfully high real unemployment rates. They're generating increases in the numbers of citizens with low standards of living by making jobs too scarce with regulation and lack of incentive. On a national level, they also benefit economically to the tune of 2-3% of each of their GDP that would have to go to national defense if the United States wasn't so magnanimously providing global ecnonomic stability at it's own expense with vast outlays for defense spending.

Europe can generally sit under the US's defense blanket and spend money that would otherwise be allocated on defense on internal social projects.

Those that like social order and don't mind intrusion on civil liberties by government on an ever increasing basis are quite happy with Europe, but people that value traditional western civil liberties are becoming increasingly wary of the european secular socialism experiment. As debt piles up and there are fewer workers and more mouths to feed, there is going to come a time in Europe where things get considerably uglier, and the massive social net becomes impossible to sustain, much like American medicare and social security. When that day comes, and you have to cut back benefits just to keep the programs economically sound, europe will be a much nastier place to live. It is not a question of if, but when this will take place.

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