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The XPC with a new paint job and liquid-cooling

Shuttle today announced its new small form factor system catered towards gamers—the 1337 SDXi. The new 1337 SDXi manages to pack in hardware goodies such as a quad-core processor and your choice of single or dual graphics cards. Powering the mini-beast is an Intel Kentsfield Core 2 Extreme QX6700 processor.

Shuttle offers two choices of graphics cards on 1337 SDXi systems. The choices include two AMD ATI Radeon X1950 Pro graphics cards in CrossFire or a single NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX. Other notable hardware features include 2GB of Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 memory and a single Western Digital Raptor 150GB hard drive.

In addition to offering the best performing hardware, Shuttle treats the 1337 SDXi to a new flame paintjob using glossy automotive paint. Liquid-cooling is available for users that select dual ATI X1950 Pro graphics cards in CrossFire as well. The available liquid-cooling system is housed completely within the system and maintenance free.

The Shuttle 1337 SDXi is available now starting at $3499 with a dual-core Core 2 Duo E6600 processor.


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Holy crap, what a rip-off...
By Fallen Kell on 12/21/2006 3:01:26 PM , Rating: 5
I mean seriously here guys:

$250 motherboard
$1200 quad-core
$200 case
$150 power supply
$220 Raptor
$200 RAM
$620 Videocard
$100 Windows OS

Total: ~$2940 for QUAD CORE!!!
They want $5,159.00 for that!!!

What an absolute rip-off.




By DigitalFreak on 12/21/2006 3:08:29 PM , Rating: 4
That paint job is easily worth $2200! </sarcasm>


RE: Holy crap, what a rip-off...
By Anh Huynh on 12/21/2006 3:18:45 PM , Rating: 3
Don't forget the assembly, warranty, tech support, etc... that comes with pre-built systems. Shuttle is catering to the crowd that doesn't want to build their own system, like Voodoo and Alienware.

And its actually $430 for the barebones instead of the $600 you calculated for mobo/case/PSU.

However, the pricing is a bit out of whack.


RE: Holy crap, what a rip-off...
By Aikouka on 12/21/2006 3:31:41 PM , Rating: 2
I think the biggest issue is in the upgrades from "normal" components. The difference between the E6600 and the QX6700 is most definitely not $1200. In fact, a quick NewEgg check shows the difference at about $800 (from boxed EE to OEM QX as there's no OEM EE6600). Definitely a huge surcharge for some of these upgrades.

Also, a 250GB HDD is ~$100 and a Raptor 150 is .. $229 if I remember correctly... yet they charge $200 more for the raptor?

Maybe it'd be more fair of the upgrades were priced fairly. Methinks they need to talk to Michael Dell.


RE: Holy crap, what a rip-off...
By iNGEN on 12/22/2006 4:17:36 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I configured this system and an Alienware and the Alienware came out $800 even though the Alienware also comes with an X-Fi sound card an E6700 instead of onboard audio and an E6600 on the Shuttle. That seems like a lot of difference in such a commodity market.

Enough of a difference I bought the Alienware.


Out of touch.
By flydef on 12/21/2006 9:48:45 PM , Rating: 3
Shuttle is totally out of touch these days.
They still have no p965 or g965 machine, or 680i machine. They finally made a 2CD drive machine but put a SiS chipset in it. They have SIX! different 1CD bay cases the G, G2, G5, G5M, P, and i series. Add in the 2CD T series, the M2000 media series, and X100 micro and you have a total of 9 different case styles. Throw in multiple chipset and CPU manufacturers and you have a problem.
What is their solution? Focus on overpriced prebuilt machines with flaming paint jobs!
Solution for Shuttle:
1. Three different cases:
a. Micro slot drive case.
b. All metal single CD case... G2 style is fine.
c. Two CD horizontal case like the media case except a
little taller.
2. Release machines at the same time other motherboard manufacturers release boards based on new chipsets and NOT 6 - 8 months later.
3. Bonus idea. Make a horizontal ATX case that is just slightly wider than the width of the motherboard and has two side-by side CD drive slots and three internal HD bays.




RE: Out of touch.
By flydef on 12/21/2006 9:52:44 PM , Rating: 2
PS: No more proprietary power supplies. Redesign the case to let the builder pick their own power supply.


RE: Out of touch.
By SmokeRngs on 12/22/2006 3:23:23 PM , Rating: 2
The PSU is proprietary due to the space constraints and power requirements. There aren't very many manufacturers out there that make PSUs like this so the selection is small to begin with. Finding a PSU that will fit in a box like this and power a Crossfire setup along with the other components is not easy. It would require a large increase in the size of the case to accommodate a standard ATX size PSU. Again, this would defeat the purpose of the SFF system.

There are trade offs with a small system like this. At one time, the trade offs were performance and expandability. Now the trade off normally isn't in performance, but just expandability.

PS flydef. Do you play Wolf:ET by any chance?


RE: Out of touch.
By flydef on 12/23/2006 3:03:23 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah it's me smokerngs...
Tried to get on the other day but still having probs with my configuration. Was trying to use this OpenGL emulation thing and PB kept disconnecting me.
With the PSU, the SB81P Shuttle that I have has a history of power supplies going bad. It is really difficult to get a replacement. Not sure if they even make the 350w for this model anymore.
I think Shuttle could make a 'XPC' that used standard components. An ATX MB like one of the new 680i chipset MB's is around 12"x9.6". The SB81p is already 8.5" wide and 8" tall, and around 12.5" deep. A eVGA 7950GT is 4.4" tall. A DVD burner is less than 2" tall.
A 12.5" wide, 8" tall, and 10" deep case should be able to hold a standard ATX MB, standard power supply, graphics card, DVD burner, and three HD's.
Really wonder why no one makes a case like this. The DVD burner goes over the graphics card, the HD's go over the memory and the PSU goes over the processor.
I've been following shuttle since their first machine and just wish they would make a new box I could get excited about.
Imagine a LIAN LI PC-V600B on its side with 6" chopped off the depth and a couple off the width.


RE: Out of touch.
By ChoadNamath on 12/21/2006 11:22:03 PM , Rating: 2
I agree that their stuff is really overpriced, but we're not really their target market. Their target market is people who like pretty boxes but don't want to get their hands dirty. The DIYers have to make do with micro-atx cases that are a little bit bigger but have so much less proprietary hardware. I like how small they make these things, but I don't mind having a slightly larger box when I can pick up a mobo or PSU from anywhere I want.


RE: Out of touch.
By SmokeRngs on 12/22/2006 3:17:53 PM , Rating: 2
The motherboards for these machines are custom designed and not easy to do so considering the amount that has to be crammed into them and their size. During this process, you have to design specific areas for certain components. There isn't much room and designing a properly working motherboard with performance in mind is difficult enough as it is. Basically, it takes longer to design a motherboard like this and it costs more to do so. Standard size motherboards have a lot more room and tolerances to work with. They have standard design and size requirements to work with due to the ATX standard. This is not the case with a motherboard for a Shuttle SFF system.

Increasing the size of the case overall to be able to add more components internally is completely against the reason for the Shuttle SFF systems to begin with. These systems are designed to be small and that is their main selling point. If you want expandability you will need to go with a more standard sized system.

I'm not going to say Shuttle does everything perfect, but they do a damn good job most of the time from what I know.


By Xenoterranos on 12/21/2006 2:53:44 PM , Rating: 5
There's something about electronics that look like they're just begun re-entry that doesn't appeal to me. I would think flames would be the LAST thing you'd want associated with that much money in that small a space.





1337!
By Swaid on 12/21/2006 3:44:00 PM , Rating: 2
But they used 1337 instead of "elite" so you know it's worth it!





RE: 1337!
By rushfan2006 on 12/21/2006 4:09:27 PM , Rating: 2
Wait this thing is a computer...I thought it was just a really cool looking safe from the picture. ;)



Falcon NW FTW
By Assimilator87 on 12/22/2006 12:48:58 AM , Rating: 2
The Falcon NW Fragbox is cooler because it has a carrying handle like the Gamecube and its got a cool laser cut etching.




RE: Falcon NW FTW
By Thmstec on 12/23/2006 1:40:45 AM , Rating: 2
And it is industry standard, not some shuttle-only crap.


OMG 1337!!!12!
By therealnickdanger on 12/21/2006 2:52:26 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, so $3500 for this is incredibly over-priced...




Crazy
By SakuraChan on 12/21/2006 8:31:53 PM , Rating: 2
It it were shuttle X100 with Quad Core maybe I'll reconsider,
the paint job looks horrible, at least X100 has some aesthetics values....




LOL
By S3anister on 12/21/2006 3:00:41 PM , Rating: 1
IT'S A LEET BOX. LMAO.




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