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The UN treats us to good news... and bad

Among all the debate on global warming, The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has long been one of the loudest voices. Despite accusations of bias and political motivations, the IPCC has been persuasive in getting many governments to pass environmental legislation.

So when the IPCC releases a new report, downgrading man's impact on the environment by 25% (and lowing predictions of temperature and sea level rise by 50%), one would think this good news would make headline news across the nation. Think otherwise. Such happy news apparently isn't fit for public consumption, according to our mass media.

The media has been even less forthcoming with the details of another UN report, entitled Livestock's Long Shadow. This 400 page report expresses what people who study global warming have long since known-- that the world cattle population is responsible for some 18% of all greenhouse gases, a larger contribution than planes, trains, automobiles, and all other forms of transportation combined.

The report also blames livestock farming for over 100 other polluting gases, including the number one source of ammonia, a major contributor to acid rain. It further blames ranching for deforestation, and ends with a slap at the massive amounts of drinking water used to feed cattle herds, which presumably is taking water from the mouths of thirsty children.

So if you want to save the planet, feel free to drive your Hummer. Just avoid the drive thru line at McDonalds.



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A little irresponsible maybe?
By THEREALJMAN73 on 12/18/2006 9:50:22 AM , Rating: 2
This article seems a little irresponsible and the title very misleading but I guess that’s a hazard that has to be endured when you have a medium such as the internet where anyone can disseminate whatever information they wish to large masses of people.

I don’t think automotive vehicles especially one as inefficient as a hummer should ever be portrayed in a “green” manner. The fact is all automobiles pollute and in many more ways than just how much fuel they consume while driving. The manufacturing, mechanical maintenance, cleaning and disposal of automobiles all have a lasting negative impact on the environment. Even something as un-assuming as using your windshield washer fluid to clean your windshield is bad when the run off goes into ground water.

As to the main point of the article – yes cattle raising creates a huge environmental hazard but it’s no more or less important than cleaner transportation, population control and finding renewable clean fuels for the future.

Maybe someday all the data accumulated on the subject can be viewed with open eyes not influenced by money, laziness or stupidity and the real reasons for why the world is working the way it is can be discovered.

(yeah I know I am overly optimistic).





RE: A little irresponsible maybe?
By Dfere on 12/18/2006 4:26:05 PM , Rating: 1
What pollutes more- A Hummer driven at 45mph on the highway, or s litttle six cylinder sports car driven aggressively? What if one buys the Hummer and drives it for 6 years, and someone leases a new Prius every two years? What about the pollutive effects of manufacturing the car in the first place?

You simply cannot label a product, in a stand alone sense, "ungreen". An 8 cylinder motor functioning correctly creats less particulate emissions than a badly functioning six cylinder engine.

This is an emotive, ill defined argument.


RE: A little irresponsible maybe?
By THEREALJMAN73 on 12/19/2006 10:44:24 AM , Rating: 1
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What pollutes more- A Hummer driven at 45mph on the highway, or s litttle six cylinder sports car driven aggressively? What if one buys the Hummer and drives it for 6 years, and someone leases a new Prius every two years? What about the pollutive effects of manufacturing the car in the first place?


If you read my post I pretty much lumped all vehicles together. No vehicle is "good" for the environment and that’s the point I was trying to make. Saying that buying a Hummer is the “green” thing to do is irresponsible.

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You simply cannot label a product, in a stand alone sense, "ungreen". An 8 cylinder motor functioning correctly creats less particulate emissions than a badly functioning six cylinder engine.


I labeled a group of products as "ungreen" and they are. All cars in some form damage the environment. While maybe not on an epic level there is damage done every step of the way from manufacturing to end of life of a vehicle.

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This is an emotive, ill defined argument.


Actually the only problem here is your reading comprehension. You went on a tangent that did not even remotely relate to my comments on the article. I was not comparing any vehicles. Rather I lumped them together while you tried to make an irrelevant point about a poorly tuned engineer VS a Hummer VS a Prius in pollution output. This in no way related to my comments.

Reread my comments then reread yours. Then tell me where you went wrong.


RE: A little irresponsible maybe?
By ttowntom on 12/19/2006 10:59:32 AM , Rating: 1
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If you read my post I pretty much lumped all vehicles together
You singled out Hummers though for special attention. The OP rightly pointed out a Hummer, driven responsibly, can be better for the environment than many other cars.

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I labeled a group of products as "ungreen" and they are. All cars in some form damage the environment
Every product made, from cheese puffs to six-string guitars "damage the environment". They all generate emissions to manufacture them. So what's your point? We should go back to living in caves?

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Actually the only problem here is your reading comprehension. You went on a tangent
I think it was you went off on a tangent from the editorial itself, which was pointing out cows are a larger environmental issue than SUVs.



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