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Relax, we know AMD well

Several months ago, I was fairly openly criticized for stating that AMD would not have a 65nm processor this year.  Internal roadmaps showed the Brisbane 65nm desktop processors would launch on December 5th, 2006. Yet almost every contact I had spoken to in the supply chain -- from the engineers to the distributors -- unanimously claimed there was virtually no chance the company would ship a 65nm product this year.

Of course, this follows after the open criticism we received for claiming Socket 754 would outlast Socket 939, AMD would cut pricing on X2s the day after Conroe's launch, AMD would discontinue half of its X2 lineup and K8L would ship on the desktop in H2'07. Almost one year to the date after DailyTech's inception, I think our track record is looking pretty good right now.

Here we are, a week after the supposed 65nm AMD launch, and yet there is not a chip on the market.  Instead, AMD today quietly slipped in the new Stepping "F3" Athlon 64 X2s, the X2 5600+ and 5400+, which we also put on our roadmaps.  Originally these chips were slated to hit distributors even before the 65nm Brisbane chips, but it seems as though even this estimate was over-optimistic.

With the upcoming holidays and the chaos that ensues, it would be fairly safe to say that even if these new processors show up on Newegg (or Dell, as AMD initially said all Brisbane chips will be for OEM customers only) tomorrow, consumers will have no chance to buy any en masse.

Granted, in 2007 we're still going to see some awesome 65nm stuff from AMD.  The native quad-core Stars and Cities processors will still dominate the majority of AMD/Intel processor headlines -- even before the chip launches you can be assured DailyTech will have one of the first samples.

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Where are 65nm AMD chips?
By gudodayn on 12/12/2006 8:24:21 PM , Rating: 2
So you're saying that there are no 65nm on the market for people to buy??........I dont hear people complaining~~~

The fact is that most people that are buying new PCs are all looking for a Conroe E6300 setup.

For people who already have an AMD S939 setup, the 65nm upgrade is not viable; for people with an AM2 setup, I doubt they want to spend more money to buy a chip that will perform more or less the same (power consumption is not that big of a problem on 90nm chips, AMD's marketing better come up with something better than "65nm uses less power and saves on electricity bills" ~ an extra $20 on electrcity bills aint gotta mean a thing to people who can afford these CPUs).

I think AMD 65nm technology is just a stepping stone for something bigger......but right now, they must take the back seat and watch Intel rule!!!!

RE: Where are 65nm AMD chips?
By masher2 on 12/12/2006 9:18:53 PM , Rating: 2
Regardless of any performance advantage to the consumer for Brisbane, there is the fact that such cpus will be far cheaper for AMD to manufacture.

RE: Where are 65nm AMD chips?
By Regs on 12/12/2006 11:11:10 PM , Rating: 2
And the consumer rejoices that AMD can save money. Maybe they can cut us a check.

RE: Where are 65nm AMD chips?
By Le Québécois on 12/13/2006 10:55:04 AM , Rating: 2
If it really does make CPUs cheaper for AMD to manufacture, I think in the end it will also means cheaper CPUs for us. AMD is now being beaten by Intel if you only look at it from a performance point of view.

All they still have now is a chance to get the higher hand in the price war. So if they're able to produce new CPUs at lower cost, this logic would imply that they're going to lower the price on them too.

That is, if they don't want to lose the ground they gained this last couple of years.

RE: Where are 65nm AMD chips?
By ElJefe69 on 12/13/06, Rating: -1
RE: Where are 65nm AMD chips?
By gudodayn on 12/13/2006 12:29:28 AM , Rating: 1
E6300 or not, the AMD 65nm progression means more to AMD than it is to it's consumers!!!

RE: Where are 65nm AMD chips?
By VooDooAddict on 12/13/2006 11:56:15 AM , Rating: 2
Where do you find a $209 e6600?

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