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TiVo subscribers rejoice

TiVo this week announce several major updates to its service. TiVo subscribers will receive a new feature through its TiVo Desktop software that will allow video downloaded on the computer to be played back through a TiVo unit onto a TV. The new software update will convert video to a format usable on a TiVo unit but will be one-way only. Protected video content will still remain on the unit.

According to the press release:

TiVo subscribers will be able to choose from a variety of free downloadable content such as music videos, video podcasts and user generated content. This new software, TiVo Desktop Plus 2.4, will support video content downloaded to PCs running Windows XP in formats such as QuickTime, Windows Media Video, and MPEG-4.

The new version of TiVo Desktop will be called TiVo Desktop Plus 2.4. Users will also be able to watch web-video content on their TVs as well as save them onto their TiVo DVR unit for later playback. The new software will cost subscribers a one time fee of $24.95 but will be free to those who already have version 2.3. TiVo Desktop was also made available in a universal binary format for Mac users earlier this year.

Along with the announcement of Desktop Plus, TiVo also announced that it will be allowing users to share videos online using their boxes. A users can simply select which unprotected video to share, notify friends of a secret channel code and the videos will be accessible. Videos will be uploaded to a service provided by One True Media, costing a monthly subscription fee of $3.99. The feature will be compatible with Series2 and Series3 TiVo boxes. According to TiVo:

To share home movies or slide shows privately the video creator gives his personal TiVo channel code to friends and family. Only people with the unique personal code assigned to the subscriber's channel can see the published channel. Thus, creators can share their videos with friends and family, while assuring that their most treasured memories are not publicly available to anyone.

Receiving invites to watch videos will not cost the recipient.

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Tivo In The Machine
By hubajube on 11/15/2006 2:32:51 PM , Rating: 3
I want to be able to throw away the DTV/Tivo box and use a media center PC as a DTV/Tivo unit instead. I want a central multimedia PC that I can store all of my movies and music on. I also want to be able to store and play HD movies too. Are you listening DTV/Tivo? Just make a USB device that reads my current card or whatever card I'll need. Design your own media center software that I will gladly pay for and allow me to do the above. Otherwise, I'll just stay with what I have.

RE: Tivo In The Machine
By ninjit on 11/15/2006 2:48:10 PM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, I think that's called Windows XP MCE?

Or whatever the feature is now called in the various vista editions that include it.

Cable card tuner devices are coming out eventually that'll let you record whatever you like - and everything else you whined about is already possible on any PC - you don't necesaryly need MCE there are plenty of other software options that do the same thing.

RE: Tivo In The Machine
By johnsonx on 11/15/2006 3:45:47 PM , Rating: 2
But none of what you said applies to the original poster's situation, which is the same as mine. He has DirecTV, which means using anything other than a TiVo is a pain. It can be done, but I found it to be far more trouble than it's worth; I gave up on my media center PC 2 years ago and bought a DirecTiVo for $50. Best $50 I've ever spent. Sure, there's lots of things my TiVo won't do that a full media center PC would, but for the primary purpose of watching TV and recording shows, it can't be beat.

The original poster is asking DirecTV to come up with some method to allow a PC to directly tune one or more DirecTV feeds so that you can effectively use DirecTV with XP MCE, Vista Home Premium, BeyondTV, etc.

RE: Tivo In The Machine
By hubajube on 11/15/2006 5:42:55 PM , Rating: 2
The original poster is asking DirecTV to come up with some method to allow a PC to directly tune one or more DirecTV feeds
This is exactly what I'm looking for. I heard that DTV may be changing tech to a newer communications standard that may allow some future software to perform the functions I'm wanting.

This might do the trick.

RE: Tivo In The Machine
By johnsonx on 11/15/2006 4:19:01 PM , Rating: 2
Just so you know though, TiVo is no longer working with DirecTV on anything new. All new DirecTV DVR's are non-TiVo. So it's DirecTV you want to listen to you, not TiVo. They won't listen of course; either they or the content providers fear you having any direct access to a digital DirecTV feed. That's why the DirecTiVo's are so crippled compared to regular TiVo's: no networking, no HMO, no MRV, no archiving shows to PC, etc. Thank god for hackers!

RE: Tivo In The Machine
By hubajube on 11/15/2006 5:56:53 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the info johnsonx.

RE: Tivo In The Machine
By johnnyMon on 11/15/2006 6:23:10 PM , Rating: 2
I told DirecTV I would not upgrade to HD unless they use TiVo again, and I mean it. I might as well use TWC, because their proprietary HD-DVR is actually quite good (at least the one they're installing in west Los Angeles, which is a Motorola 6413 (might be a 6416)). My friend who upgraded from his DirecTiVo to a DirecTV HD PVR is really unhappy with it. I am voting with my wallet.

RE: Tivo In The Machine
By johnsonx on 11/15/2006 10:50:33 PM , Rating: 2
If you really want it, you can still get the HD DirecTiVo, just not from DirecTV themselves. PTVUpgrade sells them, as do several others. But the price is much higher, no subsidy from DirecTV. I've read that DirecTV and TiVo just recently signed 3-year agreement to continue support for the DirecTiVos since many people are unhappy with the new non-TiVo DVR's. The first fruit of this is the recent 6.3 software upgrade for the HR10-250 HD TiVo units. Unfortunately the HR10-250 will never be able to support the new MPEG4 streams that DirecTV is moving to, but that won't be a serious limitation for a few years at least.

RE: Tivo In The Machine
By johnnyMon on 11/16/2006 2:22:34 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the additional info, johnsonx!

By Alphafox78 on 11/15/2006 4:12:40 PM , Rating: 2
MCE + ORB = Crazy Delicious!

By Pirks on 11/15/2006 7:06:33 PM , Rating: 2
wtf is orb?

By ekauq on 11/15/2006 8:56:04 PM , Rating: 2

It's a nice little program that you can use to host basically a media server on your computer. This includes photos, music, video and even live tv (if you have a tv tuner on your computer). You can log in and access all of your media from almost anything that has an internet connection, even cell phones (and not just Windows Mobile phones either). Also, it's free.

By Pirks on 11/16/2006 2:06:07 PM , Rating: 2
interesting. for common folk who watch common cable/aired tv it may be useful, but for me to watch iptv like my favorite orb is a waste. I just connect directly to etvnet iptv servers in toronto wherever I am, just gimme a wi-fi hotspot. thanks for info anyway.

Similar to XBMC?
By CKDragon on 11/15/2006 2:12:35 PM , Rating: 4
I'm sure this Tivo solution won't be as robust as Xbox Media Center, but the feature I use most in XBMC is the video streaming from my computer. Unfortunately, the Xbox's old hardware chokes when fed anything higher than HRHD (960x540) videos.

It would be great if there were an affordable, flexible solution which is powerful enough to stream 1080p videos off the PC without going whole-hog into an HTPC.

I've never owned a Tivo, but just in browsing the headlines here I'm not confident the overall solution will be affordable or flexible. I really hope I'm wrong, however.

RE: Similar to XBMC?
By JCheng on 11/15/2006 7:33:28 PM , Rating: 2
Xbox 360? Or Media Center Extenders? (Vista-compatible models of the latter have just started to come out.)

work with DirecTiVo's?
By johnsonx on 11/15/2006 3:54:44 PM , Rating: 2
What I wonder is if this will work with a superpatched Series 2 DTiVo? I've been able to make the music and photo playback work with the existing TiVo Desktop (which I really have no use for), so maybe the new video feature will work as well. The superpatch enables Multi-Room-Viewing among TiVo's, and presumably this new enhancement to TiVo Desktop just makes it appear as another TiVo on the network.

If it does work though, it will probably cost me a bunch because that will be enough to make me buy another DTiVo for the bedroom and finally setup a media server somewhere in the house.

RE: work with DirecTiVo's?
By johnsonx on 11/15/2006 4:06:14 PM , Rating: 2
oh, yes, before you all breathlessly inform me, I do know that there is already a way to stream video from a PC to a DTiVo, and it's also possible to just upload a video to a DTiVo. However I've found both too tedious to bother with on a regular basis. I'm hoping that this new TiVo Desktop Plus method will be simple and reliable.

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