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Quad-core, HyperTransport 3.0 and more

AMD is expected to release its 65nm products soon. Moving beyond the 65nm Brisbane die shrink and Windsor FX, AMD has a couple of other tricks up its sleeves. AMD plans to transition from its Cities core products to new Stars cores. This transition uses AMD’s new core naming scheme. While AMD has typically named its processor cores after cities, the new naming scheme uses star names.

The Stars family includes the upcoming Agena FX, Agena, Kuma, Rana and Spica cores. AMD will be introducing plenty of architectural changes with the upcoming Stars family. Stars family processors will switch over to AMD’s previously announced HyperTransport 3.0 architecture. Previously, Star processors have been referred to as Revision H or K8L -- if that's not confusing enough, AMD calls the architecture of the Stars family Greyhound. While Stars family processors use the HyperTransport 3.0 protocol, it will be backwards compatible with HyperTransport 1.0 systems.

HyperTransport 3.0 is expected to provide twice the amount of bandwidth between the processor and chipset. It will also allow the processor and internal north bridge to operate at different frequencies as well. With HyperTransport 3.0, the north bridge can operate at 75% of the maximum clock frequency of the processor. AMD roadmaps claim the greater bandwidth of HyperTransport 3.0 is important for PCIe 2.0 and upcoming multi-GPU, integrated graphics and multiprocessor performance.

In addition to HyperTransport 3.0, Stars family processors feature a 128-bit floating point unit for each CPU core, DDR2-1066 support, SSE4A instructions and a split power plane. Split power planes allow the processor and internal north bridge to operate at different voltages and speeds. The advantages of split power planes are it allows the north bridge speed and voltage to never change during Cool’n’Quiet power saving measures. With split power planes the Stars processors require separate PLLs for the processor and internal north bridge.

Stars family processors will use socket AM2+, with the exception of the Agena FX. Nevertheless, Stars family processors will be backwards compatible on socket AM2 motherboards, though performance is sacrificed by falling back to HyperTransport 1.0. AMD's documentation no longer refers to AM3; it appears AM2+ is the expected socket AM3.

Beginning in Q3’2007 AMD is expected to release its first Stars quad-core processors. The new quad-core processors are based on AMD’s Agena and Agena FX cores. Targeting AMD’s 4x4 platform is the Agena FX core. Agena FX will only be available on Socket 1207+ and offer dual processor functionality. The vanilla Agena core will be available on single processor socket AM2+ platforms.

Agena FX and Agena based processors offer identical features. New to the Agena FX and Agena cores is a shared L3 cache. 2MB of L3 cache will be shared between all four processor cores. The L2 cache will be 2MB as well. Clock frequencies of 2.7 GHz to 2.9 GHz are initially expected. The HyperTransport 3.0 frequency for Agena FX and Agena cores is expected to be clocked at 4000 MHz. Agena FX and Agena core processors will be manufacturing using a 65nm process and carry 125W TDPs. The first Agena FX and Agena based processors are expected to arrive in Q3’2007.

AMD will be releasing new Kuma core dual-core processors in Q3’07 as well. The new Kuma core processors feature HyperTransport 3.0 clocked at 4000 MHz, 1MB of L2 cache and 2MB of shared L3 cache. Kuma processors are expected to arrive in 2.0 GHz to 2.9 GHz frequencies for socket AM2+. TDP for Kuma core processors is expected at 89W and 65W.

Single-core products won’t be left out of the Stars family either. AMD will release single-core Rana and Spica cores towards the end of 2007. Rana core processors will be replacing Orleans and Lima Athlon 64 single-core processors while Spica will be replacing single-core Venice Athlon 64 and Manilla Sempron processors. AMD’s roadmap doesn’t reveal too much on Rana and Spica. Nevertheless, Rana and Spica will feature HyperTransport 3.0 and socket AM2+ compatibility.



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RE: Slip...
By drebo on 11/14/2006 8:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
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the poor performance of 65nm revealed today


What the hell are you babbling about?

AMD stock closed up today, FYI.


RE: Slip...
By Tsuwamono on 11/14/2006 8:50:35 PM , Rating: 2
dont pay attention to idiots


RE: Slip...
By Khato on 11/14/2006 9:05:54 PM , Rating: 2
I believe the notion was towards the fact that the article here, "AMD 65nm Product Plans Unveiled" showed no advantages to the 65nm process over the current 90nm. (That statement somewhat ignores the stated TDP values, as they're relatively worthless anyway. If you include them, then there is a -slight- advantage in the high frequency.) But then there's the fact that the fastest 65nm part is going to be slower than the fastest 90nm for at least 3 months - a supposed Q2'07 release for 2.8GHz 65nm part.

It's understandable that AMD wouldn't be getting much out of their first 65nm part though, at least it doesn't appear to be another Thoroughbred.

As to K8L, well, I'd expect to be enjoying a Penryn by that time anyway.


RE: Slip...
By Viditor on 11/14/2006 9:11:33 PM , Rating: 2
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As to K8L, well, I'd expect to be enjoying a Penryn by that time anyway

Then you should get used to dissapointment...:)


RE: Slip...
By Khato on 11/14/2006 10:18:24 PM , Rating: 2
True true, but I like forgetting about the ~2 month delay from launch to when I can get one for cheap ;)


RE: Slip...
By Viditor on 11/14/2006 10:29:37 PM , Rating: 3
Penryn is scheduled to SHIP at the end of Q4 07...so you can expect those lower prices at the end of Q1 08...


RE: Slip...
By saratoga on 11/14/2006 9:43:16 PM , Rating: 3
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I believe the notion was towards the fact that the article here, "AMD 65nm Product Plans Unveiled" showed no advantages to the 65nm process over the current 90nm.


As a roadmap, it didn't show much of anything. To see the advantages of 65nm at the same clock speed as 90nm, you'd have to test power dissipation, something that requires an actual chip, not a roadmap.

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But then there's the fact that the fastest 65nm part is going to be slower than the fastest 90nm for at least 3 months - a supposed Q2'07 release for 2.8GHz 65nm part.


Ramp ups for new processes are slow and complicated. AMD does this every shrink. Remember, their 180nm process launched at a max of 700MHz, and then scaled to 1733MHz as they improved it. 130nm also started a meager 1800MHz and eventually climbed much higher.

The real interesting part is the power consumption, since this will dicatate how aggressively they can push their designs.


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