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Retailer GameStop will be unable to fulfill pre-orders

With all the rabid anticipation surrounding the PlayStation 3, it may sadden many of you to hear that Japan will not be the only territory that will face a cut in its launch numbers.

According to a GameSpot report, North American retailer GameStop (who also runs EB Games) has received a launch allocation that is less than its number of pre-orders.

On October 10, GameStop took PlayStation 3 pre-orders, which sold out nationwide within minutes. Most stores limited pre-orders to eight units, which was based on original Sony estimates on availability.

Now, it appears that many GameStop stores will be unable to honor its "launch day" pre-orders. A GameStop representative confirmed this news, but had no idea as to the extent of the supply shortfall.

"We are beginning to notify our customers that our initial shipment of PS3 systems will not be what we expected," the representative said. "As this is not an ideal situation, we are asking employees to wait to purchase systems until the second shipment. We are anticipating having systems to cover reservations before Christmas."

Customers with PS3 pre-orders from GameStop can expect to be contacted by phone shortly to confirm the status of their reservation. Those who will be left out of the initial round on launch day will be given a consolation item of a free used game or DVD of choice valued at $19.99 or less.

This development will have a ripple effect on those who have sold their pre-orders on eBay with the condition that the item will ship on launch day. Many eBay bidders will be very unhappy to learn that the thousands of dollars they spent on a launch-day PS3 will be facing delays.

Update: Analyst Colin Sebastian expects less PS3's on launch day than originally announced by Sony. He says:

"We expect Sony to deliver 150-200k units to stores in the United States for the launch; consumers without pre-orders may find it difficult to locate an available system. We estimate sales of approximately 750k PS3s domestically by year-end. We expect a more robust launch from Nintendo, with at least 1.2 million units sold in the U.S. and up to four million units shipped worldwide by year-end."

Read more in this Gamasutra story.

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By michal1980 on 11/14/2006 8:04:33 AM , Rating: -1
What the hell is up with the title? Sony Cuts US Launch Numbers?!!

The story is EBGames is unable to fill pre-orders, yet again. Last year it was the 360, this year the ps3.

THATS THE STORY. Unless you have something FROM SONY THAT SAYS. "We f-ed up, only 10,000 units are shipping to US" Stop!.

Who are the editors around here? Your titles are like as good and INQ.

What's Next "Jesus comes back to life" (Story Title)... Story something about a video game about Sam&Earl.

Its bad enough that 80% of the dailytech posters hate sony. Then to have the 'news' deparment spread CRAP.

By MrSmurf on 11/14/2006 8:23:20 AM , Rating: 2
You misspelled "you're", lol.

By TheBaker on 11/14/2006 9:36:01 AM , Rating: 4
He was responding to the guy who said "your dumb." That is in fact incorrect. Correct usage would be more like this:

Your well-researched post about grammar is completely asinine because you're incapable of reading a simple thread.

See how that works?

By Legionosh on 11/14/2006 9:37:36 AM , Rating: 1
Actually YES he did. YOU'RE is a shorted version of YOU ARE. YOUR basically shows possession...for example : Is this YOUR coat? (the definition(s) which ironically you yourself posted, yet you still don't seemingly understand it)

So it IS INCORRECT to say "YOUR DUMB", since the poster WAS implying that the person he was posting about was less than intelligent. He was not referring to anything in or of that persons possession.

He was saying "YOU ARE DUMB". which shortens to "YOU'RE DUMB"..not "YOUR DUMB".

While my grammar skills may not be the best, I do know what I said is correct, regardless of what ever definition you can muster up from Google.

Apparently you either can't A) read the definition you yourself posted or B) simply can't understand it. It's not up to me to say which category you fall under. But I'd guess it's the latter.

Oh, and feel free to e-mail if you like. Somehow I have a feeling you won't let this go.


By Lonyo on 11/14/2006 1:21:59 PM , Rating: 5
(p.s. it's irk)

By peternelson on 11/14/2006 9:58:15 AM , Rating: 3
I FULLY agree with michal1980.

"What the hell is up with the title? Sony Cuts US Launch Numbers?!! The story is EBGames is unable to fill pre-orders...."

Exactly what I thought. There is no information whatsoever that the 400,000 Sony plan for US launch is changed in any way.

Japan was cut from 100K to 80K but then the actual numbers shipped were 88.4K. It's therefore dangerous to speculate.

The fact EB took orders for more consoles than they will actually get has nothing to do with total Sony will ship but about THEIR ALLOCATION out of that total.

"Eight per store" is a stupid policy anyway as their stores vary in size and location.

However, back to michal's post, THE TITLE IS MISLEADING please change it to "E-B over assumes their PS3 allocation".

As for them asking the employees not to buy, I don't see that being very successful. Many of them likely took advantage of being first in the cue and probably already sold their new console on ebay already ;-) If EB are serious they should enforce it rather than ask, but I don't think there are any legal grounds on which to do so.

By peternelson on 11/14/2006 4:28:24 PM , Rating: 2
"the people who write it live, breathe, and usually work in the industry."

Some of us readers actually do too ;-)

Anyway I agree that it is possible (but unproven) that Sony reduced the allocation to EB, and even if it did, that would not mean necessarily that other stores also get less or the totals are going to be less. Indeed my view is supported by the fact that no other retailers are yet crying about reduced allocation in stories like this. If all retailers were complaining of reduced allocation it would be reasonable to assume a vast reduction in total shipment, but I don't see that.

More likely, their loss (if there even was one and not pure EB miscalculation or wishful thinking) is more likely Walmart's gain (they claim to have AT LEAST 10 consoles per store), or maybe other retailers. Who knows how Sony will attempt to "fairly" distribute allocation?

My point is one retailer getting less in no way equates to a lower total, if anything "provokes speculation as to total."

The OP made a valid comment on the title, but did so insensitively which is why he was flamed and downrated for it.

By Arkham1 on 11/14/2006 5:27:15 PM , Rating: 1
We're all correct, except that I was also wrong. ;) I didn't read the name on the "replace..." post, and thought some American was confused over the word "queue".

Indeed, I was the only idiot involved. Move along, nothing to see here. ;)

By zombiexl on 11/14/2006 8:24:57 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure what to believe....

6 (might be 8) circuit city stores have 100 consoles each for a midnight launch and then at 8am the rest of the circuit city stores open for walk-ins. Makes me wonder if there will be more than one at each store.

Walmart is advertizing 5 consoles per store. I don't know how many walmart's there are, but i see them like every exit or 2 on most highways.

Maybe Sony overcomitted to Gamestop, or maybe Gamestop over estimated their allocation. Either way to the consumer it looks like a shortage.

By xsilver on 11/14/2006 8:50:28 AM , Rating: 3
while you may be right it is hard to gain any credibility when you have froth spewing from your mouth and shouting like a crazy cat lady...

speaking in a calm collected manner would probably win you more friends.

On this issue, I would tend to think that the accountants at gamestop probably couldnt count the actual number that they had been allocated by sony and oversold on their preorders.

By zombiexl on 11/14/2006 9:08:24 AM , Rating: 2
Gamespot is reporting that Toys R Us's pre-orders will be met. I guess it was gamestop screwing up again.

By One43637 on 11/14/2006 12:55:49 PM , Rating: 2
i'm on good terms with a manager at a EB, and when i asked if they had any more trade-in deals going towards the PS3 last night he asked if i got a phone call regarding my reservation at the store i Pre-ordered. that's when i found out that launch numbers were cut and the unfortunate ones would be contacted to let them know they would not be receiving one this weekend.

so i was informed that barring any issues that cropped up with shipping, a la Gears of War, i should be able to pick it up this weekend. as it stands, i'm not sure how assured i am by that, but i guess it's only 3 more days away.

still it makes me wonder if they knew this was going to happen when they stapled that little disclaimer to your pre-order receipt.

and i guess this will be an example to people not to buy a pre-order receipt on E-Bay if they want a high demand item on launch day.

By DarkPrime on 11/14/2006 8:48:42 AM , Rating: 2
It may be fair to speculate that there are reduced numbers shipping in the US, but that's all it is. Just because someone is getting less than they expected means THEY will have a shortage, not that there is a shortage on the whole.

Remember too that various news sites reported PS3 sold 88,000 units in Japan this past weekend when Sony said they were only getting 80,000. Maybe the shortage isn't as bad as people think.

By peternelson on 11/14/2006 10:14:44 AM , Rating: 2
More precisely, around 88400 in the first 2 days.

I agree with your point though. We won't know how many Sony ship until Sony ships them.

It will be Sony's decision how they are shared out, which shipments are delayed etc.

Here in the UK, Game has quite a good reputation for fulfilling console pre-orders, compared to some others. I don't know the US market, but it sounds like EB is the equivalent of some of those others who oversell then fail to deliver.

I don't really care, but like Michel I do care that titles reflect the true content of the story.

If Sony MIGHT ship less than 400K, THAT is the story, not that you KNOW Sony are going to ship less based on mistakes or surmising of EB. If you just discovered you will disappoint your customers, it's a whole lot easier to pass the buck and blame Sony than to hold your hands up.

By Arkham1 on 11/14/2006 12:30:58 PM , Rating: 2
Has anyone else noticed that they actually exceeded their revised 80K target number? Interesting.

By wuZheng on 11/14/2006 8:52:46 AM , Rating: 2
I dunno man, the article title looks pretty clear to me, "Playstation U.S. Numbers Cut." I don't see the word "Sony" in there, do you? And even if there was, if there was a shortage of PS3s allocated to GameStop/EBGames, that they expected but won't be getting, logic can derive who to blame for that, obviously the maker of the product, Sony... so yea, don't go mouthing off and calling editors who are much more competent than you in these matters, "fanbois" DailyTech delivers the news quite well, its just that some people refuse to accept it as such. Moron.

By peternelson on 11/14/2006 10:22:32 AM , Rating: 5
Since there is great interest in the total shipped and announcements of 400K, the reader naturally assumes from "playstation US numbers cut" that the story relates to the total, being implied as no further detail qualifies it.

Dailytech are not fanbois. Michel asked the rhetorichal question because the behaviour might make it appear that way.

"EB's reduced PS3 allocation cuts raise speculation about UA launch total" would have conveyed the story content better. The point of a title, synopsis, precis or abstract is that you can get the gist of the story without needing to read it first.

I have to admit the title gave me the wrong impression, and it was only when I read the story I discovered there was no evidence relating to any change in total shipments.

As a news provider, Dailytech could improve by making titles reflect the story content, that's all we're saying.

By bplewis24 on 11/14/2006 12:38:05 PM , Rating: 1
I dunno man, the article title looks pretty clear to me, "Playstation U.S. Numbers Cut." I don't see the word "Sony" in there, do you? And even if there was, if there was a shortage of PS3s allocated to GameStop/EBGames, that they expected but won't be getting, logic can derive who to blame for that, obviously the maker of the product, Sony

Actually, you come off as pretty illogical yourself. "Playstation U.S. Numbers Cut" specifically implies that the numbers available to the U.S. were cut or not able to be met. The first post is precisely correct: the headline is entirely misleading. EB Games/Gamestop can't fill their pre-orders. That's all we know at this point until further information is leaked.

That, however, is not the same as saying Sony has a shortage. For all we know those excess units were allocated to other stores. There is also a rumor that the shipments were scaled back to supply more units to Japan, however unlikely--prima facie--that sounds. Back on point, your assumption that there is a shortage to EB Games/Gamestop and that it's based on Sony's inability to produce the target 400,000 units is just assumption. An assumption that could be true, but an assumption nonetheless. Therefore, the original poster is entirely justified in his rant (even if he does come off a bit hysterical about it).

The bottom line is, logic does NOT dictate that Sony cut the shipments. It dictates that there are only a few possibilities, and that Sony being unable to make their shipments is ONE of them. But the fact that they were able to produce more than the anticipated 80,000 units for Japan brings that into question. We just have to wait til this weekend to find out the truth.


By peternelson on 11/14/2006 4:47:15 PM , Rating: 2
Brandon if that is genuine then it is a big story.

All I get is "Database error:
The database has encountered a problem." so maybe the server is suffering the slash-dot effect.

If NA only gets 200-300K instead of 400K, there will be many more disappointed than 9000 at EB.

That's what I would call a real news story and would justify the original title!

Hey, maybe they had a change of heart and decided to send us Europeans some 100,000 PS3 for Xmas (joke).

By randomname on 11/14/2006 5:48:12 PM , Rating: 2
Well, here you have the information you need:

"Analyst: 150K-200K PS3s For U.S. Launch"

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